CUTS...CUTS

[George Dawes]

i dont think Tony Blair lied to go to war what he did wrong is he just took the Americans(George Bush) word for it as gospel regarding WOMD

I think you will find that the US government took our 'sexed up' document as gospel. It was our 45 minute nonsense. Bliar either knew it and lied or should have known about it and didn't, in which case he was completely incompetent. Personally, I don't believe he was incompetent.

Interesting, subtle, subconscious or purely coincidental use of the word "gospel" given that both Bush and Bliar admitted to 'praying for guidance' before they embarked on their "crusade".

but you would like to think that the Americans surly would have had relied on there own intelligence service(reports)?

then again probably not

[shrimper]

i dont think Tony Blair lied to go to war what he did wrong is he just took the Americans(George Bush) word for it as gospel regarding WOMD

I think you will find that the US government took our 'sexed up' document as gospel. It was our 45 minute nonsense. Bliar either knew it and lied or should have known about it and didn't, in which case he was completely incompetent. Personally, I don't believe he was incompetent.

Interesting, subtle, subconscious or purely coincidental use of the word "gospel" given that both Bush and Bliar admitted to 'praying for guidance' before they embarked on their "crusade".

Perhaps one day many centuries from now, (and assuming the world has survived) people will have been educated away from religion and may be able to live in peace.

[shrimpnsave]

i dont think Tony Blair lied to go to war what he did wrong is he just took the Americans(George Bush) word for it as gospel regarding WOMD

I think you will find that the US government took our 'sexed up' document as gospel. It was our 45 minute nonsense. Bliar either knew it and lied or should have known about it and didn't, in which case he was completely incompetent. Personally, I don't believe he was incompetent.

Interesting, subtle, subconscious or purely coincidental use of the word "gospel" given that both Bush and Bliar admitted to 'praying for guidance' before they embarked on their "crusade".

Perhaps one day many centuries from now, (and assuming the world has survived) people will have been educated away from religion and may be able to live in peace.

nice thought and i wish it would happen in the future


if religion dissapears, human beings will still fallout with each other,its a genetic constitution....



take a look at football and svs


nowt to do with religion

[shrimper]

Religion relies on people to have blind faith and not question its seemingly illogical and irrational 'supernatural' occurrences and teachings.

It also relies on the masses believing and following individuals who claim 'access' to the almighty, without question. That is a recipe for all kinds of mind-manipulation and is an obstruction to sensible debate and compromise.

It sets up all kinds of false barriers between people who might otherwise negotiate and share.

It is ALL about religion.

[Keith]

Perhaps one day many centuries from now, (and assuming the world has survived) people will have been educated away from religion and may be able to live in peace.

Amen to that!

[Posh]

Perhaps one day many centuries from now, (and assuming the world has survived) people will have been educated away from religion and may be able to live in peace.

Puff

[Freez]

Eloquent as ever!

[Keith]

Perhaps one day many centuries from now, (and assuming the world has survived) people will have been educated away from religion and may be able to live in peace.

Actually, that has a ring to it, almost poetic. The kind of line that would appear in a Chris De Burgh song. We should work on it, it could be a Christmas number one!

[marky No.1]

Perhaps one day many centuries from now, (and assuming the world has survived) people will have been educated away from religion and may be able to live in peace.

Actually, that has a ring to it, almost poetic. The kind of line that would appear in a Chris De Burgh song. We should work on it, it could be a Christmas number one!

Bring on Sir Cliff

[shrimpnsave]

Religion relies on people to have blind faith and not question its seemingly illogical and irrational 'supernatural' occurrences and teachings.

It also relies on the masses believing and following individuals who claim 'access' to the almighty, without question. That is a recipe for all kinds of mind-manipulation and is an obstruction to sensible debate and compromise.

It sets up all kinds of false barriers between people who might otherwise negotiate and share.

It is ALL about religion.

cuckhoo

[shrimpnsave]

WHAT THE HELL

we have to have cuts

but oversea aid continues

imo charity begins at home and if this little britain EVER becomes properous again...then we should perhaps think twice

[Keith]

There was never any connection between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden hated Saddam and visa-versa. After Gulf War 1 bin-Ladan wanted to 'finish the job off' but was not allowed to by the Saudi regime (an equally despotic regime but they are still our despots).

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/

Ch4 Dispatches: Iraq's Secret War Files/

And the US 'secret files' recently leaked prove it. You can watch again at 4OD. Be warned there are some harrowing scenes.

[George Dawes]

i will watch that