Old Man Kensey wrote:Some more shots on this, very good, site.
http://www.footballgroundguide.com/
The site is also asking for help with pictures of our new ground, if anyone can help.
morecambe mick wrote:Seriously Neil I couldn't give a otss about their new stadium, but with you starting a fresh post on it virtually every other week I think you are comparing ours to theirs.
Chesterfield were given their site FOC by the council. (Free of charge)
They were actually told that they were going there in 2005.
No training facilities on site, no community facilities, no junior football team to relocate.
Just another empty ground to visit, well.... once at least.
As someone pointed out on the football forum site, they've been a league club for something like 140 years - we may have some catching up to do.
Morecambe listened to their fans when they said they wanted terracing to remain, although like the North Stand at the old ground, the terracing can be (relatively) easily converted to seating if required later.
Personally I like to go to watch my team at home in a football ground with a traditional atmosphere not a freaking morgue à la Darlington and, I suspect, them next year.
Some people need to take themselves outside, give their heads a damn good shake and come back inside.
Rome certainly wasn't built in a day and compared to 140 years we are in our infancy.
I'm not against people putting questions up if the have concerns, but some on here are malicious. I'm not saying you are Neil in repeatedly posting these links, but some people are upsetting themselves by comparing the two, completely, different sites.
The club are doing the best they can in exceptionally difficult times, support them.
halftimeresults wrote:Did someone get out of the bed the wrong side this morning?
marky No.1 wrote:If we sent him pictures, do they then become his copyright?
morecambe mick wrote:Seriously Neil I couldn't give a otss about their new stadium, but with you starting a fresh post on it virtually every other week I think you are comparing ours to theirs.
Morecambe listened to their fans when they said they wanted terracing to remain, although like the North Stand at the old ground, the terracing can be (relatively) easily converted to seating if required later.
Personally I like to go to watch my team at home in a football ground with a traditional atmosphere not a freaking morgue à la Darlington and, I suspect, them next year.
Some people need to take themselves outside, give their heads a damn good shake and come back inside. The club are doing the best they can in exceptionally difficult times, support them.
spireitenag wrote:HI! Chesterfield fan here in peace.
I don't really understand why the sudden outbursts of animosity have emerged between certain fans of both of our clubs. Although I suspect the feelings of Barry Roche when departing Chesterfield and joining your club may well have a lot to do with it!
I personally have no axe to grind with Barry and accept that sometimes he came in for a certain amount of flak from a small minority of our fans.But his reactions to that on occasions, namely rude hand gestures and four letter word rants didn't help his cause.
The main reason for my visit to your board is to try and set the record straight with regards a number of ill informed posts on here regarding our new ground and financial situation.
1.New ground cost was 13 million.
2.We were gifted the land by developers Wilson Bowden not by the council although it was at their instigation as part of the deal to allow the retail development on the same site to go ahead.
3.The ground build was financed as follows: 4 million share purchase by Dave Allen,2 million loan from Dave Allen,2 million from sale of Saltergate,2 million from the bank and the rest in grants.
4.The football league trust does not give grants for standing terracing,which also is more expensive than seating due to the need for higher stress levels.
5.The east stand at our new home has a large development to its rear that is entirely for community facilities.
6.There is little space for training facilities,other than a gym but we have state of the art facilities less than 15 minutes drive away.
7.We have to date spent 20 seasons in the 2nd tier of football.
8. Dave Allen left Sheffield Wednesday in a far better financial postion than when he arrived there.In fact he actually financed several transfers whilst he was there out of his own pocket and got them promoted.
I hope this goes a long way towards clearing a few things up and I wish you well in your new home.
scar wrote:Cheers Nag,
spireitenag wrote:The football league trust does not give grants for standing terracing,which also is more expensive than seating due to the need for higher stress levels.
Heysham_red wrote:spireitenag wrote:The football league trust does not give grants for standing terracing,which also is more expensive than seating due to the need for higher stress levels.
This is interesting. And if its true then its a detriment to our board that they listen to the fans and decided against seats because thats what many of us want despite being able to save money through development and grants. Its amazing what goes on in the back ground that we don't appreciate.
John L wrote:I think detriment is the wrong word, mate!
Heysham_red wrote:John L wrote:I think detriment is the wrong word, mate!
it most certainly is! i am not even sure how I got it so wrong but I have edited it now!
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