mrpotatohead wrote:PC Rathband, shot by mixed up moat, is now confirmed to be permanently blind, anyone on here still feel moat was badly done to
Suzi Quatro wrote:Society should take the blame. We live in a cruel and unequal society. The authorities failed to help this desperate man.
Suzi Quatro wrote:Society should take the blame. We live in a cruel and unequal society. The authorities failed to help this desperate man.
He got reported to the police for abusing his dogs.
"He never fed them, they were underweight and you could see their ribs.
"He's got a vicious temper. When he's fallen out with neighbours in the past he's gone round and set fire to their cars. He's really nasty. We're all terrified of him.
"I wouldn't be surprised if he's got guns, he's got everything else. He was in jail for for assaulting the kids. His eldest, Chantelle, had gone to school with a big bruise on her back and the teachers had seen it.
"Then they found out it had been going on over a period of time. Sam had lived with him for a couple of years. But after Raoul was done for hitting his kids the two eldest were put into care.
"Sam was told by social services she'd have to leave him or she'd lose her little girl too. I think she moved out for good about four weeks ago. Sam was in tears and worried what Raoul might say.
Keith wrote:At best he was a socio-path, more likely a psychopath, neither of which are treatable conditions under the terms of the Mental Health Act. So what could 'society' do for this 'poor desperate man'... who believed that killing people was acceptable?
Peter wrote:Sorry if I've missed something.
Peter wrote:What happened to all the institutions (like the Moor and RAH) that Society had, to protect vulnerable people from 'us' and 'themselves'?
How do we know [for certain] that none of these people were as described above?
The streets are littered with 'aliens' who need to be semi-securely looked after, for their own benefit, welfare and safety, and that of ours.
It's The System's' fault, and who is the 'The System?'
Keith wrote:As usual Peter, you've missed anything between twenty & fifty years!
Peter wrote:Keith wrote:As usual Peter, you've missed anything between twenty & fifty years!
That's a bit unkind
Peter wrote:Thickos like me don't understand, and jump to our own conclusions.
You're an expert on the subject, and being an idiot (me) helps to eke out that expertise for all our benefit.
What I can't understand though, is why there are so many potential 'Raoul Moat's' out there.
It could be your turn, my turn, or even darrenlock's turn next.
Are people born psychopathic/sociopathic ? Or is it something that has poisoned their bodies/minds over a number of years?
Something has got to be done to turn the tide, before these people become the norm, and it really does become dangerous to go out after dusk.
PS. What's the difference between a psychopath/sociopath and someone with paranoia? What's the treatment for paranoia, particularly for someone like the Moat's of this world?
Keith wrote:But that's irrelevant, as mentioned psychopathy/sociopathy is not (and never was) covered by the Mental Health Act, so The Moor was never going to keep 'society' safe from the likes of Moat (not that he's been diagnosed as such anyway).
wijit wrote:... but in this case I think of his kids and think that maybe they have a better chance now than before.
mrpotatohead wrote:Back to the original point
Anyone on here (apart from dawzie and suzie q) THINK MOAT IS BEST NOT BREATHING OUR AIR
Peter wrote:Where do the likes of Peter Sutcliffe fit in?
Under the Mental Health Act isn't it?
So why is he being treated like a psychopath?
mrpotatohead wrote:PC Rathband, shot by mixed up moat, is now confirmed to be permanently blind, anyone on here still feel moat was badly done to
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