scar wrote:But an England team based around a solig 5 or 6 players who all play for the same team would be a good start, at least they'd all know each others style of play.
scar wrote:But an England team based around a solig 5 or 6 players who all play for the same team would be a good start, at least they'd all know each others style of play.
scar wrote:Just thought, it could be 7 players should Cole join Spurs;
King
Dawson
Huddlestone
Lennon
*Cole
Defoe
Crouch
scar wrote:Just thought, it could be 7 players should Cole join Spurs;
King
Dawson
Huddlestone
Lennon
*Cole
Defoe
Crouch
mrpotatohead wrote:How many English players elswhere are world class, the point was about team strategy, we have just found out that the best individuals cannot cut the mustard
Christies Child wrote:mrpotatohead wrote:How many English players elswhere are world class, the point was about team strategy, we have just found out that the best individuals cannot cut the mustard
....and how many of our foreign imports have excelled in the World Cup?
Christies Child wrote:mrpotatohead wrote:How many English players elswhere are world class, the point was about team strategy, we have just found out that the best individuals cannot cut the mustard
....and how many of our foreign imports have excelled in the World Cup?
Peter wrote:We don't want foreign players - full stop!
They come over for two reasons.
Lots of dosh, and a long contract.
wonder shrimp wrote:to flip the question round a little, how many of the players from the teams remaining are 'world class'?
not so many IMHO.
you don't need world class players to do well in a tournament, you need a world class team!
The Marksman wrote:Is that the royal "we"? Please don't think that you speak for everybody.
The Marksman wrote: English players also play in the Premier League for lots of dosh and long contracts.
The Marksman wrote: The difference between them and the foreign players at PL clubs is that the foreign players add the ball skills and intelligence that our players mainly lack.
ezz wrote:Still think the revolution to German football which has every club making a profit, and teams only allowed to spend 50% of that profit. This would A) slow dow the ridiculous inflation on good players, and average english players. B) no more Portsmouth situations C) also give more english youths to compete.
ezz wrote:Downsides english premiership wuold attract less world class foreign players...maybe do a little worse in european comps but apart from that it'd make football a whole lot better and stable.
Peter wrote:ezz wrote:Still think the revolution to German football which has every club making a profit, and teams only allowed to spend 50% of that profit. This would A) slow dow the ridiculous inflation on good players, and average english players. B) no more Portsmouth situations C) also give more english youths to compete.
Exactly. But market forces have got to made a thing of the past.
Posh wrote:The simple answer to England's problem of course is to play socialists and treat the team as a socialist entity.
Dirk Kuyt, probably the hardest working player in the tournament who has only one aim victory for his team, is a socialist and donates a huge proportion of his salary to charity. Barcelona, where many of the hardest working collaborative players come from, is a socialist football club built on supporter ownership, solidarity and the belief that everything is second to Barcelona the club. And many great managers in England - Clough, Shankley, Paisley and Ferguson were all committed socialists.
And we've only ever won the World Cup under a Labour government.
The Premier League and our so-called 'world class' footballers are all about greed and putting themselves first. Until we learn to rid ourselves of the failings of wealth then we may finally put out an England side that wants to win for each other and the nation, and not to lift their price tag or put themselves in the shop window.
Viva la revolution!
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