No link road

[Richard Head]

I had to travel south on the M6 today and setting off at 8.30 this morning it took me 10 minutes to get from Torrisholme to junction 34. How much quicker would the £140 million proposed to be spent on the link road make that journey, 5 minutes at the most. Hardly value for money.

I regularly have to travel from Scotforth to Torrisholme about 4.30 in the afternoon. This never takes more than 15 minutes by car (25 minutes by bus and 40 minutes if i walk). That doesnt seem an excessive amount of time to me.

That would be a perfect run then, not slowing down for roundabouts, corners or traffic lights assuming you stuck to speed limits. Somehow I doubt that at 8:30am. It takes me longer than that at 6am, same route. When I'm working in Lancaster, it takes me a good 20 minutes around 8am to get to Kingsway. That's not the worst case, that's the average. Journey home around 5pm, at least another 20 minutes but more often 30.

I look forward to driving towards the M6 to get on the link road and back to Morecambe.

My route was down Torrisholme Road, slowed down for mini roundabouts by the Spar shop, turned right through Ryelands, held up for a couple of minutes queueing to get out onto Morecambe Road, not much traffic after that, stuck to the speed limit the whole way, almost exactly 10 minutes

[Keith]

if everyone used your rat-run it would soon clog up though. A few traffic calming measures should soon put you back on the main routes that everyone else suffers with.

[scar]

My route was down Torrisholme Road, slowed down for mini roundabouts by the Spar shop, turned right through Ryelands, held up for a couple of minutes queueing to get out onto Morecambe Road, not much traffic after that, stuck to the speed limit the whole way, almost exactly 10 minutes

So by using a Rat-Run yourself you are acknowleding that the area needs the bypass as the traffic on the arterial routes are beyond capacity, hence your seeking an alternative route to avoid the congestion and delays.

[morecambe mick]

My route was down Torrisholme Road, slowed down for mini roundabouts by the Spar shop, turned right through Ryelands, held up for a couple of minutes queueing to get out onto Morecambe Road, not much traffic after that, stuck to the speed limit the whole way, almost exactly 10 minutes

So by using a Rat-Run yourself you are acknowleding that the area needs the bypass as the traffic on the arterial routes are beyond capacity, hence your seeking an alternative route to avoid the congestion and delays.

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Plus, I won't be letting anyone out from there again

[Keith]

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Plus, I won't be letting anyone out from there again

That's exactly what went through my mind! I always let people out of there but now I'll think twice!

[Duffman]

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Plus, I won't be letting anyone out from there again

That's exactly what went through my mind! I always let people out of there but now I'll think twice!

Don't be nasty, I get an extra 10 minutes in bed taking that route.

[1953]

[color=#FF4080]WHAT IS WRONG WITH BUILDING ANOTHER BRIDGE AT SNATCHEMS. SURELY NO WHERE NEAR THE COST OF A WHOLE NEW BY-PASS.ROADS AT THE EASTERN END OF THE RIVER WOULD HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH IN ORDER TO REACH THE A 6; JUST STAY CLEAR OF THE NEWTS !!!

[casey jones]

Anybody ever SEEN one of these newts?????????????? If somebody knows where they are, why not just scoop them up and deposit them, maybe a mile away, down the Lune. I'm sure most parts of the banks of the river are more or less the same habitat as they live in now. I'm also quite sure they wont have a fr*ggin clue that owt has changed! BUILD THE BRIDGE.

[Christies Child]

[color=#FF4080]WHAT IS WRONG WITH BUILDING ANOTHER BRIDGE AT SNATCHEMS. SURELY NO WHERE NEAR THE COST OF A WHOLE NEW BY-PASS.ROADS AT THE EASTERN END OF THE RIVER WOULD HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH IN ORDER TO REACH THE A 6; JUST STAY CLEAR OF THE NEWTS !!!

Exactly...but does that mean crossing Lancaster Golf Club.....

Political influence in certain places......mmmmm

[Richard Head]

[color=#FF4080]WHAT IS WRONG WITH BUILDING ANOTHER BRIDGE AT SNATCHEMS. SURELY NO WHERE NEAR THE COST OF A WHOLE NEW BY-PASS.ROADS AT THE EASTERN END OF THE RIVER WOULD HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH IN ORDER TO REACH THE A 6; JUST STAY CLEAR OF THE NEWTS !!!

Exactly...but does that mean crossing Lancaster Golf Club.....

Political influence in certain places......mmmmm

Dont you mean masonic influence?

[shrimpnsave]

[color=#FF4080]WHAT IS WRONG WITH BUILDING ANOTHER BRIDGE AT SNATCHEMS. SURELY NO WHERE NEAR THE COST OF A WHOLE NEW BY-PASS.ROADS AT THE EASTERN END OF THE RIVER WOULD HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH IN ORDER TO REACH THE A 6; JUST STAY CLEAR OF THE NEWTS !!!

Exactly...but does that mean crossing Lancaster Golf Club.....

Political influence in certain places......mmmmm

Dont you mean masonic influence?

correct me if im wrong but is that the funny handshaky thingy

[Richard Head]

correct me if im wrong but is that the funny handshaky thingy

Funny handshake, trouser leg rolled up, bearing your left nipple, it all seems perfectly normal behaviour to me

[shrimpnsave]

correct me if im wrong but is that the funny handshaky thingy

Funny handshake, trouser leg rolled up, bearing your left nipple, it all seems perfectly normal behaviour to me

OK ill join as long as mrs haining joins toooooo...

happy days indeed

[Suzi Quatro]

There was somebody who I was speaking to today who said to me that we have lost two chief ambassadors for Morecambe in the last six months--I asked who he was referring to and he said Evelyn Archer and Geraldine Smith. Well you did see them in the press a few times.

[Gnasher]

Anybody ever SEEN one of these newts?????????????? If somebody knows where they are, why not just scoop them up and deposit them, maybe a mile away, down the Lune. I'm sure most parts of the banks of the river are more or less the same habitat as they live in now. I'm also quite sure they wont have a fr*ggin clue that owt has changed! BUILD THE BRIDGE.

I've seen remains of newts from the dyke at the back of Christie Ave, my partner's cat likes a tasty snack.

[shrimpnsave]

Anybody ever SEEN one of these newts?????????????? If somebody knows where they are, why not just scoop them up and deposit them, maybe a mile away, down the Lune. I'm sure most parts of the banks of the river are more or less the same habitat as they live in now. I'm also quite sure they wont have a fr*ggin clue that owt has changed! BUILD THE BRIDGE.

I've seen remains of newts from the dyke at the back of Christie Ave, my partner's cat likes a tasty snack.

can you name them please just to clarify

[Gnasher]

They were stamped "on loan from Chester Zoo to anti-link-road campaigners"

[parceldave]

Anybody ever SEEN one of these newts?????????????? If somebody knows where they are, why not just scoop them up and deposit them, maybe a mile away, down the Lune. I'm sure most parts of the banks of the river are more or less the same habitat as they live in now. I'm also quite sure they wont have a fr*ggin clue that owt has changed! BUILD THE BRIDGE.

The newts which can easily be re-located are just an excuse for the knobs who live at Aldcliffe and play golf at Lancaster , who dont want their views over the Lune spoiling.

[scar]

Newts or no newts, the money isn't there for the time being so nothing would get done, bridge over the Lune or link road past the college! They don't even have the money to fix signage let alone build bridges and roads!

[Richard Head]

Apparantly there is enough money available to put another bus stop immiediately to the south of the Pointer roundabout. That will make it easier for traffic to get into Lancaster from the south wont it

I walked into town that way this morning and it took me less than 2 minutes to walk from the existing bus stop next to Bargain Booze to the proposed site of the new bus stop.

When a young girl was knocked down at virtually the same place the council said they could not justify spending money on a crossing because she had not been badly injured enough but money can be found for this uneccessary bus stop

[Posh]

[color=#FF4080]WHAT IS WRONG WITH BUILDING ANOTHER BRIDGE AT SNATCHEMS. SURELY NO WHERE NEAR THE COST OF A WHOLE NEW BY-PASS.ROADS AT THE EASTERN END OF THE RIVER WOULD HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH IN ORDER TO REACH THE A 6; JUST STAY CLEAR OF THE NEWTS !!!

Exactly...but does that mean crossing Lancaster Golf Club.....

Political influence in certain places......mmmmm

I absolutely f'ing dispare sometimes. Never in the course of human history has so much time, hot air and human effort been wasted on such a topic.

Here's a few simple facts for anyone wishing to open the pointless debate a Western bypass.

1. In 1949 every major motorway and dual carriageway in Lancashire was planned. By the 1970s everyone of them bar one was built. You guessed it - a scheme called the Morecambe Link. A route to the north of Lancaster, which the council to the 'economic future of Morecambe'.

2. It isn't about newts, although the scheme would never have passed any UK or European environmental planning legislation. It isn't about people on Haverbreaks, Lancaster Golf Club, freemasons or any other great conspiracy theory. Every reason for the Western Routes rejection was based on planning law anything else and it would have been challenged in court.

3. The Western Route was rejected and rightly so. A two lane half arsed scheme costing at least £60 million more. Lorry breaks down, everything grinds to a halt. It is a shit scheme. Yet knowing all these facts any many more political halfwits like the MBI and Geraldine Smith kept peddling the myths, half-truths and outright lies.

4. The Morecambe Link or the Northern Route has full planning permission and is now on it's final public enquiry. Thousands of hours have work have been committed to getting this scheme to where it us now.

5. The Western Route legally, financially, morally, politically is DEAD. Isn't it time to give it a rest and get behind the current scheme so we can ensure Morecambe gets what was needed in 1949 built?

[Heysham_Shrimp]

Anybody ever SEEN one of these newts?????????????? If somebody knows where they are, why not just scoop them up and deposit them, maybe a mile away, down the Lune. I'm sure most parts of the banks of the river are more or less the same habitat as they live in now. I'm also quite sure they wont have a fr*ggin clue that owt has changed! BUILD THE BRIDGE.

The newts which can easily be re-located are just an excuse for the knobs who live at Aldcliffe and play golf at Lancaster , who dont want their views over the Lune spoiling.

Our superb Chairman live at Aldcliffe/Haverbreaks

[Posh]

Anybody ever SEEN one of these newts?????????????? If somebody knows where they are, why not just scoop them up and deposit them, maybe a mile away, down the Lune. I'm sure most parts of the banks of the river are more or less the same habitat as they live in now. I'm also quite sure they wont have a fr*ggin clue that owt has changed! BUILD THE BRIDGE.

The newts which can easily be re-located are just an excuse for the knobs who live at Aldcliffe and play golf at Lancaster , who dont want their views over the Lune spoiling.

Our superb Chairman live at Aldcliffe/Haverbreaks

He used to. Moved several years ago to be nearer to his business.