Posh wrote:...more investment in education than at any time since the 60s.
Posh wrote:I've just sent this to a national newspaper - bizarely at their request.
As a Labour Party activist it's sad to see the final days of the General Election campaign be dominated by a debate about the likely post-election state of the parties and how we should vote in anticipation. Whatever happened to policy? Nationally Cameron and Brown have both had poor campaigns. Frightened of alienating any section of the centre, focused entirely on a tiny number of swing voters in marginal constituencies and driven by focus groups we've had an election light on policy and big on rhetoric. In this atmosphere and with the Leadership Debates offering a level playing field the Liberal Democrats have been allowed, initially at least, a free and unchallenged ride through the middle.
The likely result is a hung parliament and if so then the biggest winners may be the electorate. A coalition will be more representative of the people than at any election since Atlee in 1945. While parties talk about change a hung parliament would be a mandate for real change. Changes to an electoral system that is failing the people, changes to the nation's finances and tax system and the removal of the many unfair aspects of our society that continually go unchallenged.
As Labour has no chance of an outright majority our only hope is that 'progressives' band together in an anti-Tory consensus to ensure as many Labour and Lib-Dem MPs get elected. Gordon Brown would fall on his sword and then perhaps these two parties can bring together the best of their ideas and talents in a coalition of real and meaningful change.
This election has benefited only from the Leadership Debates enlivening the race to make it a true three party contest - which makes your 'swingy thing' redundant as its only for two party contests.
My personal biggest disappointment is over how Labour have fought the campign. As the parent of a 2 1/2 year old we've seen fantastic children's centres open, free nursery places for three year olds (with plans to extend it to all 2 year-olds), more new primary schools and secondaries being built at any time since the Victorian era, class sizes cut and more investment in education than at any time since the 60s. Have we heard a single mention of it? No. We've been robbed of meaningful debate and particularly on the the deficit.
Christies Child wrote:How many trees have been cut down and had to be replaced for all the paper used to convince us of who to vote for?
Posh wrote:My personal biggest disappointment is over how Labour have fought the campign. As the parent of a 2 1/2 year old we've seen fantastic children's centres open, free nursery places for three year olds (with plans to extend it to all 2 year-olds), more new primary schools and secondaries being built at any time since the Victorian era, class sizes cut and more investment in education than at any time since the 60s. Have we heard a single mention of it? No. We've been robbed of meaningful debate and particularly on the the deficit.
Peter wrote:Posh wrote:My personal biggest disappointment is over how Labour have fought the campign. As the parent of a 2 1/2 year old we've seen fantastic children's centres open, free nursery places for three year olds (with plans to extend it to all 2 year-olds), more new primary schools and secondaries being built at any time since the Victorian era, class sizes cut and more investment in education than at any time since the 60s. Have we heard a single mention of it? No. We've been robbed of meaningful debate and particularly on the the deficit.
Nowt to say about Gordon's £Billions raid on the pensions pot?
Never mind all these nurseries funded by the tax payer.
Mothers should be at home being mothers to their young offspring.
If that's not the case then why do they have children?
Half the kids these days can only scribe in text-speak.
Halve the class sizes? Half the kids in half the classes don't speak English as a first language!
All of our public services need interpreters in * knows how many languages, at * knows what cost in order to cope with the demand for benefits.
No I'm not!
[edit] Language Timothy, language...
Posh wrote:Yes, yes, you're right. You're absolutely right to raise these issues. There's lots of points there we could dicuss and I don't necessarily agree on. Anyway have a good election.
End of post.
That was a disaster.
Who put them on this messageboard and on this thread? I think it was Keith.
What a bigoted man.
Posh wrote:I've just sent this to a national newspaper - bizarely at their request.
As a Labour Party activist it's sad to see the final days of the General Election campaign be dominated by a debate about the likely post-election state of the parties and how we should vote in anticipation. Whatever happened to policy? Nationally Cameron and Brown have both had poor campaigns. Frightened of alienating any section of the centre, focused entirely on a tiny number of swing voters in marginal constituencies and driven by focus groups we've had an election light on policy and big on rhetoric. In this atmosphere and with the Leadership Debates offering a level playing field the Liberal Democrats have been allowed, initially at least, a free and unchallenged ride through the middle.
The likely result is a hung parliament and if so then the biggest winners may be the electorate. A coalition will be more representative of the people than at any election since Atlee in 1945. While parties talk about change a hung parliament would be a mandate for real change. Changes to an electoral system that is failing the people, changes to the nation's finances and tax system and the removal of the many unfair aspects of our society that continually go unchallenged.
As Labour has no chance of an outright majority our only hope is that 'progressives' band together in an anti-Tory consensus to ensure as many Labour and Lib-Dem MPs get elected. Gordon Brown would fall on his sword and then perhaps these two parties can bring together the best of their ideas and talents in a coalition of real and meaningful change.
This election has benefited only from the Leadership Debates enlivening the race to make it a true three party contest - which makes your 'swingy thing' redundant as its only for two party contests.
My personal biggest disappointment is over how Labour have fought the campign. As the parent of a 2 1/2 year old we've seen fantastic children's centres open, free nursery places for three year olds (with plans to extend it to all 2 year-olds), more new primary schools and secondaries being built at any time since the Victorian era, class sizes cut and more investment in education than at any time since the 60s. Have we heard a single mention of it? No. We've been robbed of meaningful debate and particularly on the the deficit.
Peter wrote:[
Mothers should be at home being mothers to their young offspring.
If that's not the case then why do they have children?
[edit] Language Timothy, language...
P/T Indie wrote:"None of the above"
Mike Blackstone wrote:I'm afraid I AM very much one of those sad people, a political animal, which I probably inherited from my late father who was a local councillor. Stayed up until just before 4am.
In the days leading up to the election, I have watched every night the 'Campaign Show' on BBC News channel between 9pm and 10pm, then Newsnight (which I usually watch anyway) at 10.30pm on BBC2.
I'll be lost when this is all over! Nothing left to watch.
P/T Indie wrote:
still think Christie the cat should have entered think of the publicity and all the people like me wanting to waste their vote that would have voted for him he would have probably won and still do a better job than the main 3 parties.
Mike Blackstone wrote:I'm afraid I AM very much one of those sad people, a political animal, which I probably inherited from my late father who was a local councillor. Stayed up until just before 4am.
In the days leading up to the election, I have watched every night the 'Campaign Show' on BBC News channel between 9pm and 10pm, then Newsnight (which I usually watch anyway) at 10.30pm on BBC2.
I'll be lost when this is all over! Nothing left to watch.
Keith wrote:Mike Blackstone wrote:I'm afraid I AM very much one of those sad people, a political animal, which I probably inherited from my late father who was a local councillor. Stayed up until just before 4am.
In the days leading up to the election, I have watched every night the 'Campaign Show' on BBC News channel between 9pm and 10pm, then Newsnight (which I usually watch anyway) at 10.30pm on BBC2.
I'll be lost when this is all over! Nothing left to watch.
Oh don't worry, you'll be able to do it all again in a few months time! Do you reckon any of them can hold it together for 12 months? It may be 18 months before the next election, after they've both had a go.
Christies Child wrote:Keith wrote:Mike Blackstone wrote:I'm afraid I AM very much one of those sad people, a political animal, which I probably inherited from my late father who was a local councillor. Stayed up until just before 4am.
In the days leading up to the election, I have watched every night the 'Campaign Show' on BBC News channel between 9pm and 10pm, then Newsnight (which I usually watch anyway) at 10.30pm on BBC2.
I'll be lost when this is all over! Nothing left to watch.
Oh don't worry, you'll be able to do it all again in a few months time! Do you reckon any of them can hold it together for 12 months? It may be 18 months before the next election, after they've both had a go.
Exactly my thoughts.
Whoever becomes the PM, he and his party have some very difficult decisions to take. Because of the need for savage spending cuts, whichever party has to do it will quickly loose favour with the public, because without doubt everybody will suffer in some way or another. Nobody likes pain and whoever is responsible for inflicting that pain will be severly punished at the next Election.
Personally I can't see Brown surviving whatever happens. And although by no means a lover of the Labour Party I do have a liking for Allan Johnson.
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