Keith wrote:Not having a pop at any individuals who use this forum but...
Ch4 News have just been reporting the 'lack of volunteer drivers' that caused a loss of rail services today. They reported that train drivers are on £38,000 per year for a four day week and the ASLEF guy who they interviewed was asked 'shouldn't drivers be normally rostered to work Sundays?' He said 'no, why should they?'
Well here's why... because you get paid £38,000 a year you arse! Try being a newly qualified nurse on £17,700 and say you aren't working Sundays "why should I?" Oh, and try not to complain about a 3% pay rise when nurses are getting about 2% and many people are just happy to have a job left through the recession!
Rant from someone who gets paid a lot less than £38,000 for far more than 35 hours a week and who is getting a 0% pay rise next year...
shrimpnsave wrote:
and what do premiership players get paid?????????......................
mrpotatohead wrote:no disrespect to train drivers intended, but they are not paid over the odds because some selfish person might jump in front of their train at some point in their career, nurses and firemen fully expect to enter traumatic situations on a daily basis, our soldiers get about two years train drivers wages for losing an eye ffs
ockers wrote:lets not have a go at employees who provide a valuable service on the railways and do a very good job whether its £17000 £27000 or £37000 a year...
Keith wrote:mrpotatohead wrote:no disrespect to train drivers intended, but they are not paid over the odds because some selfish person might jump in front of their train at some point in their career, nurses and firemen fully expect to enter traumatic situations on a daily basis, our soldiers get about two years train drivers wages for losing an eye ffs
Perhaps our soldiers in Afghanistan should refuse to fight on Sundays?ockers wrote:lets not have a go at employees who provide a valuable service on the railways and do a very good job whether its £17000 £27000 or £37000 a year...
...unless its a Sunday, in which case, "why should they"?
it is highly skilled and from time to time does work sundays and give up some of his weekends
My local village bobby thru himself in front of a train 18 months ago and the driver is still off work !!!! I know that doesn't answere Keiths question but there are quiet a lot of railway suicides down here !!
nobbyshrimp wrote:My local village bobby thru himself in front of a train 18 months ago and the driver is still off work !!!! I know that doesn't answere Keiths question but there are quiet a lot of railway suicides down here !!
Off work on full pay Yes traumatised probably, stressed most likely but if they're not better after after 3-6mths then they're not going to get over it, ever They should have started dismissal (even on medical grounds with a possible medical pay out) well before now but the trouble is like has already been said, the union is far too powerful. Train drivers are off work at the drop of a hat because if they feel the slighest bit sick or not 100% well then they are not advised to refrain from work and i understand why and agree but 18mths on full pay without a stitch of work with the unemployed like it is. Get real!
Richard Head wrote:Being a train driver is a doddle of a job, they dont even have to steer. All they need to do is accelerate and brake. How much training do you need to do that?
Robert Jackson wrote:Interesting to compare the Virgin train driver's lot with that of a bus driver.
The latter has to negotiate difficult traffic which is getting ever-busier, look out for traffic signals, concentrate on other road users and watch for pedestrians stepping out from the pavement, etc., whilst trying to keep to a timetable.
He has to take money, issue tickets, give change and deal with passenger enquiries and complaints.
At some stage he may also have to deal with late-night drunks, drug addicts and rude school children.
His financial reward is probably about half that of a Virgin train driver.
mrpotatohead wrote:I agree totally, bus drivers have an equal amount , if not more, responsibility, for a lot less pay, for doing the same work, but i do fffing hate binmen
Robert Jackson wrote:Interesting to compare the Virgin train driver's lot with that of a bus driver.
The latter has to negotiate difficult traffic which is getting ever-busier, look out for traffic signals, concentrate on other road users and watch for pedestrians stepping out from the pavement, etc., whilst trying to keep to a timetable.
He has to take money, issue tickets, give change and deal with passenger enquiries and complaints.
At some stage he may also have to deal with late-night drunks, drug addicts and rude school children.
His financial reward is probably about half that of a Virgin train driver.
CASS wrote:http://www.rodge.force9.co.uk/faq/driver.html
http://www.myjobsearch.com/careers/train-driver.html
Interesting !
durianmuncher wrote:Very interesting indeed. I had no idea a train driver's position involved so much and necessitated passing such a high degree and quantity of tests.
It's a shame British Rail, or whatever they are called these days, don't put so much effort into upgrading tracks, points, coaches and keeping to schedules.
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