Trialists

Trialists

Postby Pandashrimp » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:59 pm

Opinions after tonight??? Personally although Larkin scored, i thought he was pretty average. Prefered Chadwick but really liked Hudson. Creative and looks to pass forward which was nice to see as we our usually very sideways through midfield.
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Re: Trialists

Postby George Dawes » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:02 pm

what number was Hudson?

9, Chadwick
10, Larkin
?
?
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Re: Trialists

Postby james456 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:03 pm

Hudson was #7
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Re: Trialists

Postby George Dawes » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:04 pm

yeah caught my aye in the first half, played some nice balls with both feet!
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Re: Trialists

Postby scalehallshrimp » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:13 pm

does anyone know any background to the trialists,such as previous clubs etc
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Re: Trialists

Postby Pandashrimp » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:16 pm

scalehallshrimp wrote:does anyone know any background to the trialists,such as previous clubs etc



Hudson ex Rotherham
Larkin ex Northampton (scoring record appauling!!)
Chadwick ex Everton, Plymouth and Shrews
Woods (i think) ex Torquay
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Re: Trialists

Postby Smeggy » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:19 pm

I thought both strikers looked decent enough against a strong Burnley side, both could be good at our level. Thought Larkin looked quite skillfull and took his chance really well IMO.
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Re: Trialists

Postby John L » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:20 pm

scalehallshrimp wrote:does anyone know any background to the trialists,such as previous clubs etc

Mark Hudson (7): http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=23770

Nick Chadwick (9): http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=27100

Colin Larkin (10): http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=17403

Stephen Woods???: http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=9800
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Re: Trialists

Postby George Dawes » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:23 pm

id like to see more of Chadwick held the ball up realy well & always looked to bring other players into play
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Re: Trialists

Postby james456 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:29 pm

I was impressed by Larkin. When we won our first corner, he was the one at the near post who made that great flick on. He also showed some skill and nice touches throughout and the goal was really well taken. Not spectacular but I think he could be a great player against league 2 defences.
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Re: Trialists

Postby P/T Indie » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:37 pm

I thought Chadwick had the better all round game but Larkin's finish was well taken. I see Plymouth paid 250k for Chadwick and he scored a few but then hasn't done much else.

It's hard to tell from tonight as you can't expect much from them against a Prem deffence. Hopefully they will both get a run out against other oposition.

Don't really understand why we are looking at a centre back when we have plenty.
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Re: Trialists

Postby shrimper » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:38 pm

Need to see more of Chadwick before making an opinion - not impressed tonight but he was against really good lads and didn't get much chance to show he's any better than Wayne or Twissy.

Larkin, for me, looked sharper, more eager and took his goal really well, worth another look.

I've always liked Hudson and as long as it doesn't prevent us bringing in a really decent striker (if we get the chance of one) I'd like to give him a go.

Wilson looked as promising as I thought he'd be, Moss got better as the game went on after a shaky start against Eagles. Woods looked solid but no better than we've got.

Really pleased with Stanners who has clearly been working on his upper body strength and looked very eager to impress.

But the biggest plus on the night, for me, was Duffy who got better and better and started to dictate play a lot towards the end.

A Clarets fan on the way out (who had no idea who he was) picked him out and said he looked as though he was trying to put himself in the shop window for Burnley!
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Re: Trialists

Postby George Dawes » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:39 pm

Don't really understand why we are looking at a centre back when we have plenty.




couldn't agree more......
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Re: Trialists

Postby nobbyshrimp » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:09 pm

Seen Chadwick a few times recently and he's never done much. He has the experience, he has the quality but he never manages to provide the finishing goods. For a striker not a good goal per game ratio either but saying that Larkin's isn't much better either.
Chadwick
Total career appearances (excluding reserve games) 136
Total goals 22
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Larkin
Appearances 270
Goals 47
Michael Twiss
Appearances 303
Goals 81
Wayne Curtis
Appearances 380
Goals 156

However bare in mind most of Wayne + Twissy's were at a lower standard and Larkin scored 25 in 92 back in 2002-05 for Mansfield but only 3 in 54 for Northampton 2007/09. Not an easy decision for Sammy to make and i'm just not sure about these two???
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Re: Trialists

Postby shrimper » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:15 pm

Thing is they have to be significantly better than Twissy, Wayne and Aaron to be worth adding them to the squad budget. Of the two I'd like to see more of Larkin. For me Chadwick didn't do any more than I'd have expected Wayne to do (though, as I say, against a side of Burnley's quality it's a bit harsh to judge).
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Re: Trialists

Postby parceldave » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:23 pm

DawZi wrote:
Don't really understand why we are looking at a centre back when we have plenty.




couldn't agree more......


Because the ones we have are getting old and too slow :o :o :o
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Re: Trialists

Postby Abbo » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:30 pm

I thought they all looked ok against a very good fit fooballing side, but if Artel is going to be one of the centre backs i think we could struggle
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Re: Trialists

Postby parceldave » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:48 pm

Abbo wrote:I thought they all looked ok against a very good fit fooballing side, but if Artel is going to be one of the centre backs i think we could struggle


Me too, I think Drummy would be ideal in that position and play Duffy in Midfield ;)
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Re: Trialists

Postby yozzer » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:23 pm

We have a striker on the books with a 50% strike rate. Four goals in eight appearances. He's been quite prolific for the reserves too.
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Re: Trialists

Postby USA Shrimp » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:29 pm

parceldave wrote:
DawZi wrote:
Don't really understand why we are looking at a centre back when we have plenty.

couldn't agree more......


Because the ones we have are getting old and too slow :o :o :o


Don't you dare :evil: If anybody starts the whole "Jimbo is too slow bu*&^%it" I will fly over to England and slap you with a cheesesteak !
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Re: Trialists

Postby George Dawes » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:31 am

parceldave wrote:
DawZi wrote:
Don't really understand why we are looking at a centre back when we have plenty.




couldn't agree more......


Because the ones we have are getting old and too slow :o :o :o



McStay
Parrsih

and not to mention we now have more cover with full-backs

Moss
Wilson


and if last seasons transfer imbargo is anything to go by, where best keeping a small squad.......
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Re: Trialists

Postby MattSTFC » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:32 am

Nick Chadwick works hard enough but he is gradually slipping down the divisions for a reason.

He can hold the ball up quite well at times whilst at other times his first touch is awful with the ball bouncing off him in all directions. His finishing is general shocking, some of the sitters he missed for us last season had to be seen to be believed, e.g. open goal chances from well inside the six yard box not converted. If you give the fella about ten decent chances you might get one goal.

If you were to pair him with a prolific goalscorer it might work quite well as a partnership but if you're looking for goals you'd be well advised to look elsewhere!
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Re: Trialists

Postby Christies Child » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:03 am

I would expect Sammy to sign Hudson based on the fact that at Rotherham he sounds as though he was their main source of midfield goals.

Their fans seem split about him, but on the evidence of last night he's got something in his locker that suggests there may be a bit of sour grapes from t'other side of t'hill.

Was offered a new contract but turned it down.

For me, too good to miss out on, especially with the prospect of him playing alongside Stanners and Drummy...some midfield that!

Also the young lad signed from Oldham....he's going to be some player in a year or two....watch him! Although only given a brief chance to shine last night he did enough to impress a few that we've got another good youngster.
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Re: Trialists

Postby Heysham_Shrimp » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:58 am

I thought Hudson was the best of the trialists last night. Maybe Sammy took him off at halftime because he had seen enough to convince him.
He also scores goals as well as makes them from looking at his record and neither McLatchlan or Hunter are prolific scorers.
A midfield with Drummond , Stanley and Hudson has a good look about it.
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Re: Trialists

Postby heysham_mfc » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:00 am

think we should sign Hudson need to see another couple of games before we can judge the other two
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