Gareth Evans

Re: Gareth Evans

Postby james456 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:33 pm

We have Wainwright and Duffy who could - and should - be playing on the right. What we need is a left back.
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby George Dawes » Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:47 pm

james456 wrote:We have Wainwright and Duffy who could - and should - be playing on the right. What we need is a left back.



totally agree
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby parceldave » Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:53 pm

james456 wrote:We have Wainwright and Duffy who could - and should - be playing on the right. What we need is a left back.


And a left winger and a playmaker and a striker and we should have left our right back where he was . Left back just been released by Everton ,will he do :?:
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby shrimper » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:51 pm

I think we've really missed a trick if we haven't tried for Laurence Wislon of Chester. True wingback, great left foot, plenty of skill. He could bomb forward knowing Danny Adams is covering his back. Then, as people say, Wainwright on the right.
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby George Dawes » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:47 am

Laurence Wislon of Chester is a obvious target, but SM must think different
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby Christies Child » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:20 am

DawZi wrote:Laurence Wislon of Chester is a obvious target, but SM must think different


Who has said that Sammy hasn't got him on his radar?

We got a shock about the bid for the Ebbsfleet striker which suggests to me that we cast our net far and wide.

However, take Glen's point about Wilson, but I thought we needed a right sided defensive player, otherwise why get rid of Howard? Neither Wainy or Duffy are really defensive players.
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby marky No.1 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:07 am

Christies Child wrote: Neither Wainy or Duffy are really defensive players.


I hope I never see Duffs in a left back position ever again! - Totally out of his depth there!

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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby marky » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:28 pm

Christies Child wrote:However, take Glen's point about Wilson, but I thought we needed a right sided defensive player, otherwise why get rid of Howard? Neither Wainy or Duffy are really defensive players.

Better to have them on the right when they are right-footed than on the left! You seem to be assuming that we will go back to 4-4-2 with Adams at left-back which I personally believe would be a major mistake. Adams and Twiss are presently the only left-footed players we have, neither of whom could survive a full season at left wing-back. Therefore, we need a younger and quicker left-footed player to play in that position.
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby james456 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:26 pm

marky wrote:
Christies Child wrote:However, take Glen's point about Wilson, but I thought we needed a right sided defensive player, otherwise why get rid of Howard? Neither Wainy or Duffy are really defensive players.

Better to have them on the right when they are right-footed than on the left! You seem to be assuming that we will go back to 4-4-2 with Adams at left-back which I personally believe would be a major mistake. Adams and Twiss are presently the only left-footed players we have, neither of whom could survive a full season at left wing-back. Therefore, we need a younger and quicker left-footed player to play in that position.

Precisely.

The only way I could understand bringing in a right back would be if we were going 4-4-2 next season but I don't think we are... we'd have to make some real changes to the defence for it to work which I don't think is the plan.
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby Christies Child » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:33 pm

...could have sworn that Yates was a right footed defender and that Sammy had made an unsuccessfulbid for a right sided defender.

Are you really suggesting that we play either Duffy or Wainy in that position.....?????

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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby shrimper » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:41 pm

I am - and I don't see what people are arguing about. We play 5-3-2 (or 3-5-2 when attacking).

That presupposes we have two wing backs. Last season one (left) was Wainer (winger turned wingback), the other (right) was Yates (fullback turned wingback).

We've let Yatesy go.

Now we either replace him like for like with another right-sided wingback.

or

We bring in someone like Wilson on the left and then switch Wainer to Yatesy's old position.

Am I missing something?
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby james456 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:42 pm

Christies Child wrote:...could have sworn that Yates was a right footed defender and that Sammy had made an unsuccessfulbid for a right sided defender.

Are you really suggesting that we play either Duffy or Wainy in that position.....?????

:o :o :o

But we play a 5-3-2 with wing backs. Where will Wainy/Duffy play if not right back? Sit on the bench and not get a game unless we change formation?
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby shrimper » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:54 pm

With Duffy in the mix then Sammy may well be more flexible with his formations. I also don't see him as defensively good enough to play wingback every week just yet. That may come in time but we may see Sammy going 4-3-3 if he wants to give Duffy a run, or sit him behind a front two.

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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby George Dawes » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:02 pm

shrimper wrote:I am - and I don't see what people are arguing about. We play 5-3-2 (or 3-5-2 when attacking).

That presupposes we have two wing backs. Last season one (left) was Wainer (winger turned wingback), the other (right) was Yates (fullback turned wingback).

We've let Yatesy go.

Now we either replace him like for like with another right-sided wingback.

or

We bring in someone like Wilson on the left and then switch Wainer to Yatesy's old position.

Am I missing something?



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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby Pandashrimp » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:02 pm

shrimper wrote:I am - and I don't see what people are arguing about. We play 5-3-2 (or 3-5-2 when attacking).

That presupposes we have two wing backs. Last season one (left) was Wainer (winger turned wingback), the other (right) was Yates (fullback turned wingback).

We've let Yatesy go.

Now we either replace him like for like with another right-sided wingback.

or

We bring in someone like Wilson on the left and then switch Wainer to Yatesy's old position.

Am I missing something?


Spot on in my opinion. Wainy works well enough to play WB but has no left foot and Duffy looks lost at LWB so switch Wainy to RWB (Parrish spare), leave Duffy on the bench incase we revert to 4-4-2 and buy a left sided player. Wilson would be perfect. Just wish Mark Hughes would splash out on a left back cos then with Bridge there too we could snare Mcgivern!!
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby The Red Knight » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:27 pm

We need to buy someone as Duffy proved last season that he can't hack it as a wing back in this league.
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby George Dawes » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:52 pm

The Red Knight wrote:We need to buy someone as Duffy proved last season that he can't hack it as a wing back in this league.



not having that, he didn't prove anything, forget what home game it was when he came on as sub and played left wing back when he's right footed then in the same game he got switched to the right side a looked dangerous beat 2 or 3 players with his first run down the right wing
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby james456 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:03 pm

He's dodgy in defence and has looked out of his depth at times but has shown his pace and ability to take men on and beat them - two qualities lacking in our team. With time, he could be a useful asset to us.
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby The Red Knight » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:17 pm

DawZi wrote:
The Red Knight wrote:We need to buy someone as Duffy proved last season that he can't hack it as a wing back in this league.



not having that, he didn't prove anything, forget what home game it was when he came on as sub and played left wing back when he's right footed then in the same game he got switched to the right side a looked dangerous beat 2 or 3 players with his first run down the right wing

It's alright him beating a couple of players but whenever anyone runs at him he doesn't have a clue and gets exposed time after time. Until he learns how to defend he is a liability playing as a wing back and should only be used when we are playing 4-4-2.
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby marky » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:04 pm

Christies Child wrote:...could have sworn that Yates was a right footed defender and that Sammy had made an unsuccessfulbid for a right sided defender.

Are you really suggesting that we play either Duffy or Wainy in that position.....?????

As others have said, yes. They are naturally right-sided players and it makes more sense for one of them to play as a right wing-back. I couldn't understand why Sammy was trying to replace Yates with another right-sided full-back because we already have players who could play in the Yates position. Wainwright was only ever really filling in as a left wing-back and I can't see any point in starting a new season with a player so out of position. It's one thing him being flexible and playing as wing-back. It's another asking him to do that AND play on the wrong side of the field of play!
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby shrimper » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:36 pm

The Red Knight wrote:
DawZi wrote:
The Red Knight wrote:We need to buy someone as Duffy proved last season that he can't hack it as a wing back in this league.



not having that, he didn't prove anything, forget what home game it was when he came on as sub and played left wing back when he's right footed then in the same game he got switched to the right side a looked dangerous beat 2 or 3 players with his first run down the right wing

It's alright him beating a couple of players but whenever anyone runs at him he doesn't have a clue and gets exposed time after time. Until he learns how to defend he is a liability playing as a wing back and should only be used when we are playing 4-4-2.


Blimey, you're a tough audience. He only started a few games - and that after joining a new club and only a few months of full-time training. I wouldn't like to rely on him as our starting wing-back but he's not proved anything (good or bad) yet.

What I did see was him getting better each game.
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby ockers » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:40 pm

on Duffy..................
chatting to steve perryman during the exeter game after shrimper upset him
im sure glen will fill us in there.........
he did say that we had two cracking footballers on the pitch in the team that day
diarmuid o'carroll and mark duffy
one has gone sadly..... the other is here though
get behind him
if the perrymeister thinks hes the dogs then so should we
good luck to mark next season
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Re: Gareth Evans

Postby marky No.1 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:30 am

ockers wrote:on Duffy..................
chatting to steve perryman during the exeter game after shrimper upset him
im sure glen will fill us in there.........
he did say that we had two cracking footballers on the pitch in the team that day
diarmuid o'carroll and mark duffy
one has gone sadly..... the other is here though
get behind him
if the perrymeister thinks hes the dogs then so should we
good luck to mark next season
great hes signed


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