What if ??

[redrobo]

A genuine question for all those supporting NAPM.

If Jason is unable to find a buyer and his financial power is unable to fully fund our club but retains ownership t leading to a possible end of our club as we know it what will be the position of the campaign? Will it still continue to with hold funding despite a potential end of the club?

I've got my tin helmet already for the abuse no doubt about to come my way but the lack of funds going forward will have serious cconsequences

[Redalert1970]

Just let the NAPM people do what they believe in Neil

Everyone as different opinions in life not just football

No one is right and no one is wrong

[Lurchy]

I'm sure this has been mentioned several times before but I believe the NAPM view would be that adminstration is better than our current situation

[Keith]

A genuine question for all those supporting NAPM.

If Jason is unable to find a buyer and his financial power is unable to fully fund our club but retains ownership t leading to a possible end of our club as we know it what will be the position of the campaign? Will it still continue to with hold funding despite a potential end of the club?

I've got my tin helmet already for the abuse no doubt about to come my way but the lack of funds going forward will have serious cconsequences

A genuine question for the 'carry on as before' folk. If we're in the same position again next season, with mounting debt and £300k+ per year interest alone, and we are relegated AGAIN, do you think the club could survive in National League North, or would we cease to exist?

If that happened, would you look back to this point and think "I wish I'd tried to do something when we still had a chance"?

You say you trust what the Board say. So do I. They say there have been credible bids from alternative people/groups, who wanted to buy the club, but Whittingham wouldn't sell to them. You accept that is true?

If, and I accept, it is a huge 'IF'... Whittingham sees that he would end up with nothing AND the preferred bidder still can't satisfy the authorities that they have the required money, and that it is from 'traceable sources', then PERHAPS he will look at other, more realistic offers, before it is all too late.

An even bigger 'IF' would be if Whittingham actually morphed in to an interested owner, putting a sustainable amount of money in to the club, from clearly understood sources, that enabled the club to return to a stable footing, then perhaps the NaPM campaign would be concluded, at least for a significant number of people. As I've said before, we're faced with a shit choice, or a really shit choice.

Answering your question, how would I feel if the club goes under, would I blame the NaPM campaign? No. Simply because, I believe it is an inevitable outcome anyway. At worst, it may be hastened slightly. I genuinely believe the 'carry on as before' approach will kill the club.

The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different outcome. Why are you expecting a different outcome?

[Andy D]

A genuine question for the 'carry on as before' folk. If we're in the same position again next season, with mounting debt and £300k+ per year interest alone, and we are relegated AGAIN, do you think the club could survive in National League North, or would we cease to exist?

If that happened, would you look back to this point and think "I wish I'd tried to do something when we still had a chance"?

this is exactly the point i made last Autumn at the Trust Meeting, at what stage do we start boycotting games, as we are looking at back to back relegations, and get the feeling we will look back, saying why didnt we do something earlier.

but no, people still felt we could still avoid relegation, it was after the disastrous January transfer window and before this so called March deadline administrators should of been called in.

[Billy bodger]

A genuine question for all those supporting NAPM.

If Jason is unable to find a buyer and his financial power is unable to fully fund our club but retains ownership t leading to a possible end of our club as we know it what will be the position of the campaign? Will it still continue to with hold funding despite a potential end of the club?

I've got my tin helmet already for the abuse no doubt about to come my way but the lack of funds going forward will have serious cconsequences

[Billy bodger]

A genuine question for all those supporting NAPM.

If Jason is unable to find a buyer and his financial power is unable to fully fund our club but retains ownership t leading to a possible end of our club as we know it what will be the position of the campaign? Will it still continue to with hold funding despite a potential end of the club?

I've got my tin helmet already for the abuse no doubt about to come my way but the lack of funds going forward will have serious cconsequences

Great Question and I’m glad it’s been asked.

It’s a personal thing for me that may or may not be take up by other fans in how ever large the NAPM campaign ends up being.(I’m not a member of the 1920 Union)

For me as long as Whittingham is the owner how can he be motivated to fund the Club to a decent level when it’s up for sale? I also think he does genuinely struggle to fund it to the level he does, hence the struggles of the Club to pay wages numerous times.

So where does that path lead? Well at the moment out of the EFL. So we are on a path and the NAPM campaign will go one of two ways. Jason will find some more money (perhaps he’s had a windfall!! another story!!!) or he will continue to underfund and struggle to fund the Club properly and the NAPM campaign (only if it’s large enough) will exasperate the finances and hit the playing budget, (it would have to be a large amount of fans to get to that point).

The path is set at the moment and I could maybe put up with that but I want dialog that isn’t just a repeat and rehash of what has gone on or long periods of silence while my money is taken. Whittingham is playing everyone at the Club for a fool and for some the race is run till he is gone. Whittingham’s destruction of the Club will continue and I don’t want to be party to that.

Also lastly the NAPM campaign is an easy target and will take some of the blame if the Club goes under, that human nature for those who do it. You have got to see the wood amongst the trees and of all the things that have contributed to the down fall of the Club all paths lead back to Whittingham.

In my working life I was branded a left wing union zealot, my answer was in 35yrs I had been on strike 4 days, the rest of the time I was a faithful employee who tried to look after his workmates and mostly failed because of the bosses. Joining the NAPM campaign will inevitably lead to being labelled, but please try and see I and others have a different view and are trying something that DID CONTRIBUTE AT ANOTHER CLUB TOWARDS THE OUTCOME OF THE UNWANTED OWNER FINALLY SCOOTED OFF.

Whittingham goes and I will be back.

[vvm]

Playing devil’s advocate, but if two relegations haven’t made him budge, I doubt the NAPM protest will be the tipping point. He’s dug in too deep now — it’s either a sale to Panjab or he blindly runs the club into the ground chasing a buyer who’ll never come.

Was he trying (or claiming to be trying) to sell Worcester Warriors before they collapsed too?

[Lurchy]

Was he trying (or claiming to be trying) to sell Worcester Warriors before they collapsed too?

I've tried looking for a detailed article on what happened at Worcester. A Kieran Maguire esq report would help to understand what specifically happened there

[redrobo]

Was he trying (or claiming to be trying) to sell Worcester Warriors before they collapsed too?

I've tried looking for a detailed article on what happened at Worcester. A Kieran Maguire esq report would help to understand what specifically happened there

I've Googled 'Kieran Maguire Worcester Warriors report' and got a lot of feedback from that site.

Not sure if what you are looking for is there.

I do have my uses occasionally.....

[Billy bodger]

What if the sale goes through soon? (according to the Trust monthly update all parties are agreed it’s in the hands of the EFL [if I’ve understood it right] and let’s pray that right). No more hiccups or the need to put in more papers.

Will everybody at the Club and the fans be happy if it’s finally got across the line especially before June 7th

Well i think most will be ecstatic, it will be the start of a new chapter and I think that is when everybody needs to take a moment, breath a sigh of relief and hope a bit of positivity surrounds the Club and its fans for a change and we can all move on together.

I also think there needs to be a bit of caution because in the statement it also says; ‘a budget has been agreed with the owner’ (well if we have not been sold that must be Whittingham!!) and how much would he say the budget is if the sale is imminent?

The last thing is if Panjab Warriors are going to be engaging with fans I hope it’s with all fans and that it’s regular and informative, especially when they haven’t engaged much, but that is their won’t, but they have to be good to their word.

[al1]

For Lurchy,sorry unable to do a link,but The Guardian reporter Michael Aylwin did a report titled Worcester Warriors the inside story of a rugby clubs collapse! Over 2 years old but very detailed

[marky No.1]

For Lurchy,sorry unable to do a link,but The Guardian reporter Michael Aylwin did a report titled Worcester Warriors the inside story of a rugby clubs collapse! Over 2 years old but very detailed

This has been posted before, but seeing as it's been brought up again. Thankfully we were told years ago that W.W. would have no connection with MFC

I sincerely hope MFC won't be entangled in the same manner, changing leases, Companies and ownership, it would take a magician of a lawyer to untangle the web.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... ubs-demise

[Keith]

I sincerely hope MFC won't be entangled in the same manner, changing leases, Companies and ownership, it would take a magician of a lawyer to untangle the web.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... ubs-demise

My head was spinning after reading this

But one comment struck me...

"The rest of September played out to various unfulfilled claims by the owners of an imminent sale and the building clamour for the club to be put into administration, including in the House of Commons. It was not until 26 September, when the RFU suspended Worcester from all competitions after its latest deadline for assurances about the future of the club had been missed, that Whittingham and Goldring accepted administration as an inevitability".

False promises of an imminent sale until administration became an inevitability? Nothing to see here...

[al1]

Thanks to Marky for the link,yep we have fallen for the same story,NAPM!

[Lurchy]

Thanks guys for info. Shame no one carried on the investigation after Sept 22. Very dodgy dealings though

[Billy bodger]

The Bond group has had First Gazztte’s against them before but………….

On the 29th of April the Bond Group was put under a First Gazette (again), by the Registrar of Companies and unless cause is shown to the contrary the company will be struck off the register and dissolved not less than two months from the 29th April.

So as the Bond Group are the owners of Morecambe FC where would that leave Morecambe if that happened?

The Bond Group have had three other First Gazette’s against them in the past, all rescinded, so maybe nothing to fear.

They also have 1 outstanding charge against the company with Charles Street Commercial Investments Limited.

Let’s hope the sale goes through soon, of course he could satisfy the Registrar of Companies (once again) or is something else could be in his plans. Who knows with him agreeing a budget for the upcoming season what is going on with the sale imminent.

Should be be another worry?