Time for more action?

[Keith]

https://x.com/STARReading/status/183892 ... 6usUQ&s=19

"The EFL noted fan action to date had raised the profile of the issues at Reading FC but the risk of further action is that it may deter the right sort of investors coming forward. The EFL noted the considerable positives of Reading FC and that a vibrant and passionate fanbase supporting the manager and players is clearly helpful in highlighting the potential of the club".

While you wouldn't expect the EFL to say anything different, it is still how I feel we are, and must carry on for the time being. If relegated to the National League, it would be a very long time, if ever, before we got back into the EFL, so keeping our place in the League is of huge importance. If Derek keeps us up, it will again be with one hand tied behind his back. The last thing we should be doing AT THE MOMENT is making that near impossible job, even harder.

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

https://x.com/STARReading/status/183892 ... 6usUQ&s=19

"The EFL noted fan action to date had raised the profile of the issues at Reading FC but the risk of further action is that it may deter the right sort of investors coming forward. The EFL noted the considerable positives of Reading FC and that a vibrant and passionate fanbase supporting the manager and players is clearly helpful in highlighting the potential of the club".

While you wouldn't expect the EFL to say anything different, it is still how I feel we are, and must carry on for the time being. If relegated to the National League, it would be a very long time, if ever, before we got back into the EFL, so keeping our place in the League is of huge importance. If Derek keeps us up, it will again be with one hand tied behind his back. The last thing we should be doing AT THE MOMENT is making that near impossible job, even harder.

This^.

Totally agree. It's very frustrating but we need to support the team through thick and thin and I still believe that if anyone can keep us up it's Derek. Even with one hand tied behind his back.

This has been going on since 2017. Owned by a succession of chancers and individuals who have anything but good intentions for the club. By and large our supporters are excellent and fully understand the difficult situation we find ourselves in. We can still do this.

[Hodgie1978]

After listening to the Trusts podcast I've lost the will to fight. I'm so so disappointed in James Wakefields comments. We've gone full circle from the exciting three year plan of saying goodbye to little old Morecambe to stop worrying and accept what we are.
If I'm wrong please tell me

[black morse]

After listening to the Trusts podcast I've lost the will to fight. I'm so so disappointed in James Wakefields comments. We've gone full circle from the exciting three year plan of saying goodbye to little old Morecambe to stop worrying and accept what we are.
If I'm wrong please tell me

Just listened to the podcast Hodgie and whilst you are right that we have turned full circle maybe realistically that is what a club the size of ours will keep doing! When you look at the gates that Bradford, Notts County etc get all we can really hope for is to compete with them on the pitch (which is what we are doing). The disappointing thing for me is that the EFL don't seem to have thrown out the present bidders which might then force Jason to see that he isn't going to get as much as he wants. He's still living in cloud cuckoo land.

[BerlinWaller]

Crowds are dropping due to the doom and gloom around the place. Somebody has to get a grip of this and breathe a bit of life in to the place. The club need to engage with the fans again rather than saying let's just get on with it. The media output is very poor, we have a whole new squad and there is zero interaction with them. The younger fans love all that and it needs improving. The Board need to be more positive despite the uncertainty behind the scenes. We need to get the drifting fans back rather than just sleep walk our way back to 900 on a Tuesday night. Everything about a match day is tired. There is no pre match entertainment other than a busker style singer out side of the stadium. JB's bar is as poor as it always has been. There is nothing at half time, no attempt to raise any money with raffles etc. There is nothing after the game and thousands of fans drift away. Some get there at 2.55pm and leave at the final whistle with zero interaction with the club. Yes, Jason is a prick but the club has to help itself.

We had our best years despite Whittingham and we should look to bring that feel good factor back rather than allowing this negative vibe to spread. The support for Derek and the lads has been great, the hardcore fans are doing their bit, the new look Trust has stepped up but the club has to step us aswell.

[KenH]

Crowds are dropping due to the doom and gloom around the place. Somebody has to get a grip of this and breathe a bit of life in to the place. The club need to engage with the fans again rather than saying let's just get on with it. The media output is very poor, we have a whole new squad and there is zero interaction with them. The younger fans love all that and it needs improving. The Board need to be more positive despite the uncertainty behind the scenes. We need to get the drifting fans back rather than just sleep walk our way back to 900 on a Tuesday night. Everything about a match day is tired. There is no pre match entertainment other than a busker style singer out side of the stadium. JB's bar is as poor as it always has been. There is nothing at half time, no attempt to raise any money with raffles etc. There is nothing after the game and thousands of fans drift away. Some get there at 2.55pm and leave at the final whistle with zero interaction with the club. Yes, Jason is a prick but the club has to help itself.

We had our best years despite Whittingham and we should look to bring that feel good factor back rather than allowing this negative vibe to spread. The support for Derek and the lads has been great, the hardcore fans are doing their bit, the new look Trust has stepped up but the club has to step us aswell.

Nail on the head there. I think we're really missing Ben Sadler as the whole "feel" of the club is back to the bad old days of ever dwindling crowds and a general air of misery. The website and social media output is really poor again. Such a massive shame after the feel good factor of league one - all the brilliant changes made during those years have been thrown away! And, no, we can't constantly blame Jason - a lot of things could be changed with minimal or no cost - from top to bottom, there seems to be an attitude of just treading water, whilst waiting for a saviour to pour money into the club, and no "plan B" if that doesn't materialise.

[BerlinWaller]

You are right Ken, a little positivity from top to.bottom will change everything. Everything about the Club seems half arsed and there is nothing happening to change it. Our Chairmen engage on FB but it is always to put out fires rather than promoting the club. The podcast has become negative with nothing coming from the Boardroom and that is such a shame.

The Social media side of things is so poor lately. Remember the Mic'd up training episodes, the Physio room and other interaction? There is nothing now but the odd bit of paper coming out of a photocopier and a silly question.

It won't take much to turn things around but there has to be a change in the clubs attitude towards its fans

[al1]

The media stuff for the academy team is better than for the first team!

[twosheds]

The club is trying to do something...there's a quiz on every Thursday in JB's bar..there's usually around 8 or 9 teams taking part. Why don't you get yourselves down for a fun night out...

Apart from that there's also the Comedy nights..if the first one is anything to go buy the upcoming ones should be a cracking nights entertainment...

So come on..support your club...

[Hodgie1978]

A pub quiz
And that's what I'm talking about.... that's where we are as a club.

[BerlinWaller]

The club is trying to do something...there's a quiz on every Thursday in JB's bar..there's usually around 8 or 9 teams taking part. Why don't you get yourselves down for a fun night out...

Apart from that there's also the Comedy nights..if the first one is anything to go buy the upcoming ones should be a cracking nights entertainment...

So come on..support your club...

I'm not being horrible and it's great that the quiz is supported but we need much more than that to turn things around.

[Hodgie1978]

The club need investment which isn't gonna come from Jason. (Easier said than done)
We need to strengthen the board which is something the PM always did in his time.
We have to provide facilities that the average fan will spend 4 or 5 hours there and not just for the match. Every club seems to have a fan zone.
A training ground with good facilities to attract better players.
Now we have good links with the Labour MP...let's get her on board with better transport links on matchday w from Morecambe, Lancaster and the lakes.
Regular forums with the board, manager and fans.
All these are things that our custodian should be doing.
For me the message to stop worrying about things that you can't control is wrong on so many levels.

[black morse]

The club need investment which isn't gonna come from Jason. (Easier said than done)
We need to strengthen the board which is something the PM always did in his time.
We have to provide facilities that the average fan will spend 4 or 5 hours there and not just for the match. Every club seems to have a fan zone.
A training ground with good facilities to attract better players.
Now we have good links with the Labour MP...let's get her on board with better transport links on matchday w from Morecambe, Lancaster and the lakes.
Regular forums with the board, manager and fans.
All these are things that our custodian should be doing.
For me the message to stop worrying about things that you can't control is wrong on so many levels.

I think we all agree with you Hodgie but most of those things need money and we haven't got any. The old saying of money makes money is true but you need some to start with some. We certainly aren't going to get anything but the bare minimum (if that) out of Jason and The Trust's Save our Club appeal showed that the fans are not able to raise anywhere near the required amount. Fan zones and training pitches require money and forums will only take place when the board are no longer under the gagging order they seem to be under at present. I can't believe that our well respected board would stay silent unless they were under threat from JW. However I certainly agree that the 'don't worry' message is ridiculous.

[captain sparkle]

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The Social media side of things is so poor lately. Remember the Mic'd up training episodes, the Physio room and other interaction? There is nothing now but the odd bit of paper coming out of a photocopier and a silly question.

It won't take much to turn things around but there has to be a change in the clubs attitude towards its fans

Could change anytime soon!
Morecambe FC is looking to recruit a Media & Content Assistant.

https://www.morecambefc.com/news/2024/october/03/vacancy---media---content-assistant/?dm_i=7KO2,6B1K,BP5KO,R8KV,1

[Hodgie1978]

I'm crap with words.
What I'm trying to say is lack of investment is gonna be the death of this club.
Accrington, Harrogate and Bromley are investing heavily in their stadiums in and outside to provide the perfect matchday.
Our owner isn't bothered
He hasn't done a thing.
He's the only one that has any power and we are being told not to worry about things that we can't control.
Jason is at the controls and we just watch the results.

[fulwoodshrimp]

Hodgie is right about the total lack of investment in our club. Slowly and surely we are drifting back to where we started in non-league. We the fans watch the decline and feel helpless but if things are allowed to continue we would regret it. As I said at the start of this post we have to do something. My only problem is wondering what can we do?

[black morse]

Shrimps Trust members will probably have just received an update from The Trust. The only thing they can really add is that they have been in contact with Jason who has informed them he is working with the EFL to formulate a suitable update and a statement will be forthcoming early next week.

Whether Jason is telling the truth or not is for each individual to decide but I would say that I think The Trust are doing a great job in keeping contact so far as they are able.

[Hodgie1978]

Yep the Trust are fantastic and having seen what goes on behind the scenes I can say the new lot will be chomping at the bit.
The Supporters federation will be helping as well.

[redrobo]

Shrimps Trust members will probably have just received an update from The Trust. The only thing they can really add is that they have been in contact with

Jason who has informed them he is working with the EFL to formulate a suitable update and a statement will be forthcoming early next week.

Whether Jason is telling the truth or not is for each individual to decide but I would say that I think The Trust are doing a great job in keeping contact so far as they are able.

Probably the very first time that a pig has flown over Morecambe......

I'll believe it when I read such a Statement......

[black morse]

Yep the Trust are fantastic and having seen what goes on behind the scenes I can say the new lot will be chomping at the bit.
The Supporters federation will be helping as well.

The Trust are our one real light in the darkness (except Derek and the team of course) so well done to all of them

[black morse]

Can someone explain to me why, if the proposed new owners are reliable, do they refuse to allow any information for the fans. I would have thought any reliable prospective owners would want to get the fans on board. Seem to think that this occurs with the top clubs.....Ineos - Man Utd, Everton, Newcastle etc.

[BerlinWaller]

A very impressive start from the new look Shrimps Trust

[Hodgie1978]

Gonna make a prediction.
Jason blames the EFL for this.

[Billy bodger]

I know this is a stupid,(what isn’t what I say!), but please in the update give the name of the supposed buyer.
I must say though the way Derek Adam’s is, (not banging on and on about issues behind the scenes) focusing only on the football. I’m hoping that he is delighted with who ever this mystery buyer is, (I might be the only one thinking that, as well!!).
I just think it will be a glib statement anyway, giving sod all away and perpetuate what ever on earth is going on in this continuing saga.
On a positive note, We are going to win tomorrow.

[black morse]

I know this is a stupid,(what isn’t what I say!), but please in the update give the name of the supposed buyer.
I must say though the way Derek Adam’s is, (not banging on and on about issues behind the scenes) focusing only on the football. I’m hoping that he is delighted with who ever this mystery buyer is, (I might be the only one thinking that, as well!!).
I just think it will be a glib statement anyway, giving sod all away and perpetuate what ever on earth is going on in this continuing saga.
On a positive note, We are going to win tomorrow.

I have wondered about this from time to time but I don't think the proposed buyer is the one Derek would prefer. I've thought for a long time that if Derek walks out again it proves the buyer is not the right one for the club and we would be deep in the sh*t. He's not gone yet and I hope he doesn't!