Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby black morse » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:27 am

Keith wrote:Still inconclusive, but clearly their players thought it was over too, judging by their body language, and apparently, comments they made to our players post match.

What we can be 100% sure of, at the other end of the pitch, it would have been given.

The red card added insult to injury. Yes, the ref had been strict regarding dissent earlier in the game, but he must have realised there was a high chance that he'd made a huge error. Even though he was never going to change his mind, a bit of discretion would have been sensible. It clearly wasn't 'foul & abusive language' as that's a straight red, not a second yellow. Now, the ref not only denied us two points, but also Harrack now misses the Bradford game too.

Anyone keeping a running total of how many points crap refs have taken from us this season?


Mmm... the grass shows below the ball on this one and, on the assumption that it was still travelling, the likelihood is that the whole of the ball would have been over before being cleared. However it's still very tight and anyway it's over and done with.
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby KenH » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:31 am

Instead of being all angry and getting annoyed with the ref, the players should have just carried on trying and we'd probably have got it over the line as their defence was all over the place. I know a few players didn't "stop", but some did. There was no way our players would have been able to influence the ref to give a goal if he didn't see and the liner didn't give it, so the players who were arguing did us no favours at all.
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby glagys » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:15 am

So we held our own and again let down by the officials
Also was thought Crowley’s celebration/ taunting when they scored was out of order
I know the fans were booing him whenever he touched the ball which is always expected
But shows the difference in class between him and Wildig
And to think we gave him a chance back in the league after he’d been overseas
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby redrobo » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:48 am

Cowley DID NOT deserve the treatment he got from some of the fans.

It's the first time in many years that a former player has received such treatment and that includes Cole.

We are much better than that.

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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Sep 29, 2024 1:37 pm

Derek got it wrong in the first 45 at Fleetwood, we tried to match them but they were too good. He made brave changes and got a result from nothing.

Nobody saw yesterdays formation and tactics coming. It was a pure Derek Adams masterclass. Going man for man against a team like Notts County was brave but it worked. Pushing on to Mcgoldrick as soon as he got the ball was brilliant and he hardly had a kick. The two full backs on either side of the pitch left very little room for their creative players and Crowley had nobody to pass to. Losing Angol was a bad break because Dakkers was causing problems pulling on to their full backs.

Derek is the best manager in League 2
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby Billy bodger » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:38 pm

Losing Angol changed the game, we had great success against a very good team that will be close at the end of the season.
Was Slew the right sub when Angol got injured? He certainly was not up front occupying the Notts County defence.
This led to the Notts county defenders having more time on the ball with only one striker doing all the donkey work on his own. They had time to pick a better pass and on numerous occasions drift forward 30-40 yrds.
For the Bradford game I hope we keep that press that worked so well yesterday but that includes having 2 up front making a dam nuisance of themselves and with Angol confirming he will be missing, who should Derek put up front with Dackkers?
Maybe Hope could do it? Tollitt has not got the physicality of Angol but he could also do a good job.
I know there is no hope (I don’t know if Brown is not fit or even if he’s left!! But he could make a nusience of him self up fron).
It’s down to DA but I think we will miss Harrack in midfield he has very done well there, for me he is more mobile and reads the game better than one or two others that maybe are a bit more forward playing, but the leave space behind. Maybe Songo’o alongside Lewis (A).
Whisper it but I am confident Tues could be our first League win.
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby redrobo » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:46 pm

For me DA should have used Hope instead of Slew but what do I know about football tactics
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:03 pm

Hope isn't a target man, he isn't physical enough to do the job that was needed.
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby Billy bodger » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:33 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:Hope isn't a target man, he isn't physical enough to do the job that was needed.


Do you agree that two up front (Ok two big lads putting it about) worked better than Dakkers trying to do all the donkey work himself? As long as they work in tandem and the rest in a press physicality does not matter as much.

If you don’t fair enough, you probably think along the lines of DA and that Notts County got far more possession after Angol went off and the press didn’t work as efficiently is a by-product of that.

Opinions and a good arm chair manager debate is always interesting. :D

I’m inclined to go with redrobo and go with Hope to start alongside Dakkers, they worked well a couple of games ago when they were on the pitch together.

As I said we will also miss Harrack in mid-field but I think another overall performance like yesterday’s and we may well get our first win.
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby Keith » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:35 pm

Billy bodger wrote:Was Slew the right sub when Angol got injured? He certainly was not up front occupying the Notts County defence.


I would like to see Slew on the right, if playing more central, so he can cut in and shoot. Being very left footed, he struggled to get a position to shoot with his left foot. The only shot on target from him, that I recall, was with his right foot, but was weak and straight at the keeper. If he's wider left, then obviously, that's better for crossing.
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:44 pm

Billy bodger wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:Hope isn't a target man, he isn't physical enough to do the job that was needed.


Do you agree that two up front (Ok two big lads putting it about) worked better than Dakkers trying to do all the donkey work himself? As long as they work in tandem and the rest in a press physicality does not matter as much.

If you don’t fair enough, you probably think along the lines of DA and that Notts County got far more possession after Angol went off and the press didn’t work as efficiently is a by-product of that.

Opinions and a good arm chair manager debate is always interesting. :D

I’m inclined to go with redrobo and go with Hope to start alongside Dakkers, they worked well a couple of games ago when they were on the pitch together.

As I said we will also miss Harrack in mid-field but I think another overall performance like yesterday’s and we may well get our first win.


Angol played through the middle with Dakkers putting himself on their full backs rather than being a target man. Once Angol went off, Dakkers had to go through the middle and Slew did the job of sitting on the full backs. It didn't work as well but both put in good individual performances. The tactics were designed for Notts County so we might not see that again. I wouldn't mind seeing the big man little man combo either but then you lose somebody from the middle of the park.

Derek will turn Harrack in to a top player, he is right up his street.
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Re: Morecambe 1 (Angol) Notts County 1 (LIVEish)

Postby Billy bodger » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:54 pm

Berlin Waller I agree on the Harrack analysis if he finds consistency in the level of performance like yesterday he will be a top lad. He reads the game well always a good attribute.

We will see if we see those tactics, that we started with against Notts County are used again, but if they worked against them (Lewis going against Crawley also a good tussle all the match), I would also think it would happen against most teams. So I think we will see it again.

Pressing and pressing high had great success. Nobody does it for 90 mins but I thought we looked better than Notts County for 34 mins and that is no mean feet and if they found it difficult to handle, I expect most teams in this league will as well.

I’d use it again as a different style of play, we have 38 games left and if it brings points all well and good.
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