Reading between the lines

Reading between the lines

Postby shrimp riddle » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:48 am

Listening to DA's and Connor Ripley's comments get the impression all is not well in the dressing room. DA blaming sale of the club and Rippley indicating some of the outfield players are not pulling their weight. Not sure the blame game really helps. A game played on the front foot would lift the fans and players imo.I personally feel the squad is good enough to stay up but not if we don't change tactics.
shrimp riddle
 
Posts: 51
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:15 pm

Re: Reading between the lines

Postby lancaster shrimp » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:11 am

shrimp riddle wrote:Listening to DA's and Connor Ripley's comments get the impression all is not well in the dressing room. DA blaming sale of the club and Rippley indicating some of the outfield players are not pulling their weight. Not sure the blame game really helps. A game played on the front foot would lift the fans and players imo.I personally feel the squad is good enough to stay up but not if we don't change tactics.



I said this after the Shrewsbury and have on here. Derek's style works in League Two, but not in League One, You won't get far in this league when you only have 20-30 possession a game coming up against technically better players week in week out.
lancaster shrimp
 
Posts: 569
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:26 pm

Re: Reading between the lines

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:13 am

lancaster shrimp wrote:
shrimp riddle wrote:Listening to DA's and Connor Ripley's comments get the impression all is not well in the dressing room. DA blaming sale of the club and Rippley indicating some of the outfield players are not pulling their weight. Not sure the blame game really helps. A game played on the front foot would lift the fans and players imo.I personally feel the squad is good enough to stay up but not if we don't change tactics.



I said this after the Shrewsbury and have on here. Derek's style works in League Two, but not in League One, You won't get far in this league when you only have 20-30 possession a game coming up against technically better players week in week out.


Luton are doing ok in the Championship
BerlinWaller
 
Posts: 4348
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:42 am

Re: Reading between the lines

Postby RapidShrimp » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:57 am

lancaster shrimp wrote:
shrimp riddle wrote:Listening to DA's and Connor Ripley's comments get the impression all is not well in the dressing room. DA blaming sale of the club and Rippley indicating some of the outfield players are not pulling their weight. Not sure the blame game really helps. A game played on the front foot would lift the fans and players imo.I personally feel the squad is good enough to stay up but not if we don't change tactics.



I said this after the Shrewsbury and have on here. Derek's style works in League Two, but not in League One, You won't get far in this league when you only have 20-30 possession a game coming up against technically better players week in week out.


The possession makes absolutely no difference, it’s what you do with the ball when you do actually have it. Second-lowest possession in the promotion season yet top of the league for chances created. Possession itself isn’t the issue, it’s the fact we’re toothless going forward and have lost our solidity in defence.
User avatar
RapidShrimp
 
Posts: 1159
Joined: Sun May 08, 2016 9:20 pm

Re: Reading between the lines

Postby KenH » Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:24 am

RapidShrimp wrote:
lancaster shrimp wrote:
shrimp riddle wrote:Listening to DA's and Connor Ripley's comments get the impression all is not well in the dressing room. DA blaming sale of the club and Rippley indicating some of the outfield players are not pulling their weight. Not sure the blame game really helps. A game played on the front foot would lift the fans and players imo.I personally feel the squad is good enough to stay up but not if we don't change tactics.



I said this after the Shrewsbury and have on here. Derek's style works in League Two, but not in League One, You won't get far in this league when you only have 20-30 possession a game coming up against technically better players week in week out.


The possession makes absolutely no difference, it’s what you do with the ball when you do actually have it. Second-lowest possession in the promotion season yet top of the league for chances created. Possession itself isn’t the issue, it’s the fact we’re toothless going forward and have lost our solidity in defence.


Our midfield just isn't working. We give up too easily when a pass goes wrong - rather than going in for the challenge, we all just run back letting them have too much freedom and time on the ball. The balance of defensive versus attacking midfields just isn't right at all.

Fane was a reasonably competent defensive midfielder, but is hopeless being played as an attacking midfielder as he can't pass. What does Shane have to do to get back into the side. I thought he did really well at the last cup match. He doesn't give the opponents a moment's peace and is constantly running around putting on pressure and trying to nip the ball. We need more of that.

As for putting Gibbo and/or Cooney as a defensive midfielder - that's just a joke. Really don't understand what DA is thinking when he does that.

It's annoying as we have quality, i.e. Shaw, Taylor, Weir, who individually are good, but they just don't seem to play well together, perhaps because they're out of their preferred positions due to the injuries etc?

The sooner that Hunter and Watts are back, the better, and we've got to hope that DA can work out his best midfielders and formation and stick with it.

Another thing that was annoying at Accy was watching all the players run up the pitch in a kind of "wave" when we got a throw in at the far side just beyond the half way line. It looked like we were going to go for it, and then it was just thrown backwards and ended up back with Ripley - a real wasted chance and far too negative. Presumably he saw most of our players had gone forward and just two defenders left behind and thought it was too risky to thrown forward and risk them countering against us. We'll never win (let alone score) if we just keep passing it back to Ripley!
KenH
 
Posts: 1453
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:40 pm

Re: Reading between the lines

Postby marky No.1 » Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:54 am

Yeah they passed back to the keeper who was then kicking it straight back to theirs!
Enjoy yourself.... It is later than you think
User avatar
marky No.1
 
Posts: 22253
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:09 pm
Location: Carnforth

Re: Reading between the lines

Postby Wild Bill » Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:49 pm

Derek will be no doubt unsettled with the club being for sale. If sold, the chances are they will be looking for a new manager and if not, he knows there will be no money in January.

Players will also be questioning his coaching. Its a system that you really need to buy into and if results don't follow, players can start to spit their dummies out. It happened to Adams at Plymouth and Bradford.

That said, I really think a win in the next couple of home matches could really spark the club back into life. We are not dead and buried but need to start winning soon.
Wild Bill
 
Posts: 3025
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:21 am

Re: Reading between the lines

Postby cragbankshrimp » Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:39 pm

Players will also be questioning his coaching. Its a system that you really need to buy into and if results don't follow, players can start to spit their dummies out. It happened to Adams at Plymouth and Bradford.

I think that the way Adams sets the team up has a huge part to play in Stocktons demise. There's no way he's going to get the chances he did in the first half of last season.
"Accrington Stanley" Who are they??????????????
cragbankshrimp
 
Posts: 866
Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:35 pm
Location: Rural Carnforth

Re: Reading between the lines

Postby Wild Bill » Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:29 pm

Stockton improved massively under Derek in our promotion season. He continued this form into the early part of last season when he was an unknown entity in L1 and played with bags of confidence. He not really performed though for the best part of a year though, so not entirely sure Derek is to blame for his demise.
Wild Bill
 
Posts: 3025
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:21 am

Re: Reading between the lines

Postby KenH » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:06 pm

cragbankshrimp wrote:
Players will also be questioning his coaching. Its a system that you really need to buy into and if results don't follow, players can start to spit their dummies out. It happened to Adams at Plymouth and Bradford.

I think that the way Adams sets the team up has a huge part to play in Stocktons demise. There's no way he's going to get the chances he did in the first half of last season.


Stockton went through a very bad period mid season and didn't really start scoring again until Derek came back. He scored 4 games in a row during April.
KenH
 
Posts: 1453
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:40 pm


Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 90 guests