Cole Stockton

[black morse]

Hibs is a peculiar name to be thrown out there. I don't know exactly how much financial muscle they have, but I'd be surprised if they had upwards of half a million to splash on a striker. And like people have mentioned, Stockton's not exactly got rosy memories from his last spell in Scotland.

Stockport obviously have money and can likely pay a higher wage, but again no idea if that equates to having upwards of £500k ready to throw at a transfer fee. That said, they spent a 'significant' (although undisclosed) fee on Madden who was 31 at the time.

On Nixon, his contacts base will most likely be agents. It's in their interests to drip feed and exaggerate potential transfer interest to try and strengthen their negotiating position for contracts/transfers etc.

The article relating to Hibs did say it was unlikely that they'd make a move this summer......that's probably because they are not prepared to pay the asking price.

[black morse]

Do we know if there is a time limit for cole to consider the extended contract?

[SEASIDECLARET]

I would think it’s fairly straight forward. A) he declines it, and says make me a better offer, B) he declines it and states that he will be seeing his current contract out, C) he declines and says he wants to leave, D) he accepts the current offer. As with most contracts it boils down to negotiation, and whilst the club I am sure did everything to make Sam Lavelle the most attractive offer they could, in the end his transfer was inevitable, and in the interests of both parties

[SupermarketShrimp]

Stockport have got daft money, think Rushden in the old days kind of money.

750k and 10k a week isn't beyond the realms of possibility for them one bit - Sarcevic went for the same money that he was on at Bolton which was 8-10k a week.

If I were advising Cole I'd be pointing him towards the direction of getting £1million out of his next contract - that's 7k ish a week for 3 years through his prime which assuming he stays fit next year and scores more than 15 he will easily get - probably more, or if someone comes with that money now.

[redrobo]

Stockport have got daft money, think Rushden in the old days kind of money.

750k and 10k a week isn't beyond the realms of possibility for them one bit - Sarcevic went for the same money that he was on at Bolton which was 8-10k a week.

If I were advising Cole I'd be pointing him towards the direction of getting £1million out of his next contract - that's 7k ish a week for 3 years through his prime which assuming he stays fit next year and scores more than 15 he will easily get - probably more, or if someone comes with that money now.

Is any EFL2 player worth those wages?

We will never know what offer our club is making to Cole but whatever it is will be the highest we've ever offered to any player. I trust Cole to make a decision based on not only money but his own wish to play at the highest level he can and remember his experiences away from MFC.

He is guaranteed to play for us...will the same be at another club if the magic comes to a halt....

[SupermarketShrimp]

It is never a question of worth, it is a question of will they be paid.

I trust every human on earth to pick the deal which will see them financially secure, rather than the opportunity of working for someone.

[Keith]

If I were advising Cole I'd be pointing him towards the direction of getting £1million out of his next contract - that's 7k ish a week for 3 years through his prime which assuming he stays fit next year and scores more than 15 he will easily get - probably more, or if someone comes with that money now.

Is any EFL2 player worth those wages?

No, in my opinion, they aren't worth that, and I'm delighted that we're a club that is living within our means. Both Stockport & Horwich Wanderers are on the way back up after coming close to going out of business due to excessive spending. It doesn't appear that they've learned their lesson.

But, if I was Cole and could secure a million quid at a League Two club or half that (or whatever) with us in League One, I know where I'd go.

To be honest, if we could get £750k+ for Cole, I'd take it, as that gives us the chance to bring in perhaps three players who would substantially improve the squad over-all. If the midfield could chip in with more goals next season, we wouldn't need to rely upon Cole so much in the first place.

[Redalert1970]

Cole as been named in the PFA League 1 team of the year

Fully deserved after a fantastic season

[Freez]

This is the players vote, so his peers rate him, even if the press and experts don’t!!

[Catte]

Sarcevic was not on 8K at Bolton, somewhere near 3k plus win bonus. Released so he could join Stockport as allegedly was not going to get the double my money contract he wanted. Good player.
Too simple to say we went into Admin due to over spending this was a lot more to do with our toxic owner who bought the club for a pound then duped his partner out of the deal.
Previous owner wrote off the clubs debts as part of the deal to sell and prior to his death pumped another £5M into toxic's hands. He just wanted to sell and stopped paying everyone as once the £5M had gone he was supposed to run the club.

The board we have now are doing this within their means, we are not paying top whack in wages to get players through the doors anymore, so far we have sold 13k season tickets and this is part of getting players into the club that and the way IE has us playing with the ball for once.

[Keith]

Too simple to say we went into Admin due to over spending this was a lot more to do with our toxic owner who bought the club for a pound then duped his partner out of the deal.
Previous owner wrote off the clubs debts as part of the deal to sell and prior to his death pumped another £5M into toxic's hands. He just wanted to sell and stopped paying everyone as once the £5M had gone he was supposed to run the club.

The 'how' is less important than 'it happened'. A mixture of football clubs becoming a rich-person's plaything and the EFL & Premier League having pathetic 'fit & proper person' tests will continue to destroy clubs & football for fans. Newcastle United are now the richest club in the world and will dominate football for the foreseeable future, despite being owned by the same people who fund ISIS and openly murder journalists.

[Scouseport_Shrimp]

Too simple to say we went into Admin due to over spending this was a lot more to do with our toxic owner who bought the club for a pound then duped his partner out of the deal.
Previous owner wrote off the clubs debts as part of the deal to sell and prior to his death pumped another £5M into toxic's hands. He just wanted to sell and stopped paying everyone as once the £5M had gone he was supposed to run the club.

The 'how' is less important than 'it happened'. A mixture of football clubs becoming a rich-person's plaything and the EFL & Premier League having pathetic 'fit & proper person' tests will continue to destroy clubs & football for fans. Newcastle United are now the richest club in the world and will dominate football for the foreseeable future, despite being owned by the same people who fund ISIS and openly murder journalists.

Football.....the working mans game.

[Keith]

Football.....the working mans game.

Accepting big enough bribes to hold a World Cup in Qatar, where a raped woman will go to prison for having sex outside of marriage and non-Muslim gay men face up to three years in prison, while a gay Muslim man can face the death penalty, shows how disgusting the people in charge of our game are.

And then they pretend to challenge misogyny & homophobia in football while actually supporting it.

The World Cup final could be between England & Wales, but I still won't be watching this sham.

Football... ...it was once a working man's game.

[redrobo]

Could be old news or just me but has Cole agreed a new 3 year deal as posted on Twitter????

[Born again Bill]

Could be old news or just me but has Cole agreed a new 3 year deal as posted on Twitter????

Can you put a link to that Neil ? not seen that anywhere !

[redrobo]

It's on the Twitter feed about the new sub rules and come is second in line and the tweet from Scott carter mentions about 3 year deal.

[Freez]

I think it’s wishful thinking. If not, great stuff.

[Andy D]

i think Cole his clearly waiting to see if a dream move come’s along, dragging it out before he signs if you like.

i also dont think he’ll make a side ways move, i like to think he’s a bit better than that.

[CityShrimp]

Cole did well for us a few years ago, left and things didn’t work out for him. I’d hope that this time around, he’ll be more cautious about leaving us because of his past experience.

Morecambe FC is the only club he’s played for where he’s really performed and there’s a real danger that he moves to a bigger club where he isn’t first choice and his career stalls again - only this time he won’t have age on his side and he could end up slipping down the leagues into obscurity. Here, he knows he will start games and score goals and if I’m honest I’m not convinced he’s a championship player. I do think there’s a chance he’ll stay.

[Andy D]

Cole did well for us a few years ago, left and things didn’t work out for him. I’d hope that this time around, he’ll be more cautious about leaving us because of his past experience.

Morecambe FC is the only club he’s played for where he’s really performed and there’s a real danger that he moves to a bigger club where he isn’t first choice and his career stalls again - only this time he won’t have age on his side and he could end up slipping down the leagues into obscurity. Here, he knows he will start games and score goals and if I’m honest I’m not convinced he’s a championship player. I do think there’s a chance he’ll stay.

exactly, most people dont make the same mistake twice, live and learn.

[Redalert1970]

If Cole gets a better offer and the money is right for the club as well he will be on his way

Just hope it`s not left till the season starts and we are looking round for another striker

I personally think he will stay but let`s see !!!!

[SEASIDECLARET]

I would most defiantly agree with Redalert that if a player gets a improved offer to what he is currently earning 99% of the time he will follow the money. However, the clubs who have been suggested to be interested in Cole seem to be planning without making any progress on a transfer, Rotherham appear to have secured a couple of strikers, Stockport County have signed the forward from Notts County, Hibernian seem to be signing out of contract or free free transfers. Bolton appear to have moved on and I’m told North Ends supposed interest was speculation by a twitter/sun journalist. Whilst a good many clubs would be willing to pay Stockton far more than he earns at Morecambe, there will be very few who are willing or able to pay a substantial transfer fee for the player. It may well be that Cole’s best chance of a large uplift in pay, is as an out of contract player next summer, although if his scoring run diminished that would be a consideration. Maybe, Hibs (or St Mirren ) will be chasing him in January when he could sign a pre-contact with any non English club!

[Little Shrimp]

It's a funny one as I don't think the market for Stockton will be that huge. I think a lot of clubs these days are trying to be a bit 'smarter' with their recruitment, trying to put their resources towards developing players that may have a resale value etc. Stockton doesn't really fit that category. If he was under 25 and having his first great season in League One, I think he would have gone by now for £1 million+. But at 28, clubs are less likely to take the risk with what still be a big fee (general thinking seems to be £500k+).

That kind of restricts it more to the likes of clubs looking to splash and go big short term such as Stockport and Wrexham - almost reminds me a bit of Sunderland splashing out a ridiculous amount on Will Grigg on that documentary a few years back. As has been mentioned by SEASIDECLARET, Stockport signing Wootton I think effectively ends any interest there. Wrexham have already splashed on Palmer/Mullin and I can't see Stockton willing to drop to non-league.

Maybe a Championship or top end L1 club decide they want to build a team around his hold up play? That's the only other scenario I could really see. I'd still keep an eye out for Rotherham. Them signing Washington makes sense as a replacement for Ladapo, but I don't think the Smith contract situation isn't resolved yet and Stockton would seem a pretty logical replacement.

[redrobo]

Maybe and more than likely that this Scott Carter guy is posting on Twitter trying to be funny and this old fart has fallen for it.

Come Scott let's be hearing from you....Where did you get that nugget of so called info from or as I suspect is it bogus....

[BerlinWaller]

Maybe and more than likely that this Scott Carter guy is posting on Twitter trying to be funny and this old fart has fallen for it.

Come Scott let's be hearing from you....Where did you get that nugget of so called info from or as I suspect is it bogus....

Out of Context written all over it