Boris' New Proposals

[marky No.1]

Probably means a delay in us attending games

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54094363

[Andy D]

especially as the weather is changing and people now starting to get ordinary seasonal colds and flu type symptoms, we will just have more people off work isolating.and regional lockdowns etc

[Keith]

I would hope that we may benefit from early attendances because a thousand fans limit wouldn't be too difficult for us. 1,000 season ticket holders spread around four sides of the ground. How many season tickets have we sold? We'd probably need some kind of system as to who goes where, for example, who goes on the 'Berlin Wall' even though their ticket is for a covered area of the ground? But it is 'do-able' for us, more than most clubs.

[HALMA 1983]

for example, who goes on the 'Berlin Wall' even though their ticket is for a covered area of the ground? But it is 'do-able' for us, more than most clubs.

[jbc.shrimp]

Do we know how our seating capacity compares to season ticket sales so far?

[marky No.1]

2000 seats less a few restricted view, 600+ tickets sold

[HALMA 1983]

[Freez]

The info that we have been told, which may have already changed after the rethink yesterday, was we have just over 700 season ticket holders and the prospective number to be allowed to socially distance and watch a game at the Mazuma was provisionally just over 1000, but that was before yesterday!!
So if you have a season ticket, you could be allowed in, when the time is right!!

[marky No.1]

How will the Clubs that have a large number of s/t holders deal with the situation, when they actually get round to it?

Draw straws?
Alternate games?
Roulette?

It seems pretty clear now that there won't be any walk in tickets sold for quite some time

[BerlinWaller]

Don't be surprised if there are no spectators at all this side of Christmas.

[HALMA 1983]

Don't be surprised if there are no spectators at all this side of Christmas.

[Andy D]

Don't be surprised if there are no spectators at all this side of Christmas.

Yep, and dont be surprised to see Santa Claus doing Plastering jobs while there"s a 2nd wave lockdown.

[redrobo]

Knowing how pro active our 'new' board have been over the last few months to combat the financial problems thanks to the virus i hope that they have contingencies in place in case the lack of fans at the stadium lasts longer than initially planned resulting in a very serious financial penalty.

It would be most welcome to hear that the EFL and Premiership have settled their current dispute which appears to be stalling resulting in a lack of financial assistance at the moment by the Premiership.

If the current dispute results in an extended delay in financial assistance then I fear that a number of clubs could go to the wall....naming no names....

[BerlinWaller]

Don't be surprised if there are no spectators at all this side of Christmas.

Yep, and dont be surprised to see Santa Claus doing Plastering jobs while there"s a 2nd wave lockdown.

Show me the full hospital wards, the graves being dug and people dying in the street and i will get your walls plastered.

I also have some magic beans for sale if you are interested.

[Westgate Wanderer]

Don't be surprised if there are no spectators at all this side of Christmas.

Yep, and dont be surprised to see Santa Claus doing Plastering jobs while there"s a 2nd wave lockdown.

Him and Rudolph would make good roofers and aeriel repairers!

[marky No.1]

Don't be surprised if there are no spectators at all this side of Christmas.

I won't be, I would be more surprised if we were allowed in

[BerlinWaller]

Don't be surprised if there are no spectators at all this side of Christmas.

Yep, and dont be surprised to see Santa Claus doing Plastering jobs while there"s a 2nd wave lockdown.

Him and Rudolph would make good roofers and aeriel repairers!

Better than Rod and Emu

[HALMA 1983]

[Keith]

We should have just followed the Swede's, gone full on scandanavian and we'd of been out the other side now,

Population Norway [5.4 million ] & Finland [5.5 million] is 10.9 million.
Population Sweden is 10.2 million.

New cases COVID-19 in Norway [1,241] & Finland [442] combined is 1,683
New cases COVID-19 in Sweden 2,630

36% more new COVID-19 cases in Sweden than in their two neighbouring countries that have 700,000 bigger population.

Yeah, Sweden are smashing it.

Numbers from 27th August to 9th September for Finland & Sweden, 28th August to 10th September for Norway.

[HALMA 1983]

We should have just followed the Swede's, gone full on scandanavian and we'd of been out the other side now,

Population Norway [5.4 million ] & Finland [5.5 million] is 10.9 million.
Population Sweden is 10.2 million.

New cases COVID-19 in Norway [1,241] & Finland [442] combined is 1,683
New cases COVID-19 in Sweden 2,630

36% more new COVID-19 cases in Sweden than in their two neighbouring countries that have 700,000 bigger population.

Yeah, Sweden are smashing it.

Numbers from 27th August to 9th September for Finland & Sweden, 28th August to 10th September for Norway.

[marky No.1]

Sweden did take a different line to most others, but it has come back to bite them:

Deaths per 100 million population, they are not very far behind us now

UK 612
Sweden 578
France 473
Denmark 109
Finland 61
Norway 49

[HALMA 1983]

Sweden did take a different line to most others, but it has come back to bite them:

Deaths per 100 million population, they are not very far behind us now

UK 612
Sweden 578
France 473
Denmark 109
Finland 61
Norway 49

[BerlinWaller]

Sweden did take a different line to most others, but it has come back to bite them:

Deaths per 100 million population, they are not very far behind us now

UK 612
Sweden 578
France 473
Denmark 109
Finland 61
Norway 49

But they haven't crippled their economy, refused people vital healthcare, sent suicides and depression through the roof, robbed kids of education and they don't have millions of people on Gov hand outs that are due to end soon.

[Keith]

Sweden did take a different line to most others, but it has come back to bite them:

Deaths per 100 million population, they are not very far behind us now

UK 612
Sweden 578
France 473
Denmark 109
Finland 61
Norway 49

But they haven't crippled their economy, refused people vital healthcare, sent suicides and depression through the roof, robbed kids of education and they don't have millions of people on Gov hand outs that are due to end soon.

Denmark's population is almost the same as Sweden.
Denmark's Economic Activity dropped by 29%
Denmark had 11 deaths per 100,000

Sweden's Economic Activity dropped by 25%
Sweden had 57 deaths per 100,000

So Denmark's economy (using 'Economic Activity' as an indicator) was only 4% worse than Sweden, but with only a fifth of the deaths.

It isn't finished yet. I agree entirely that there are lots of other issues to take in to account, including the number of people who have died from other issues, such as death by suicide increases or cancer operations cancelled, but I think it is far from clear which approach has worked best. And that's allowing with a view from hindsight. We'll see where we are next April to decide what worked best.

[marky No.1]

But they haven't crippled their economy, refused people vital healthcare, sent suicides and depression through the roof, robbed kids of education and they don't have millions of people on Gov hand outs that are due to end soon.

The end of furlough will be a real life changer for many