al1 wrote:Last eleven league games under Derek,won 3, drawn 3 and lost 5
last eleven games under previous manager,won 1,drawn 2 and lost 8.just saying!
HALMA 1983 wrote:al1 wrote:Last eleven league games under Derek,won 3, drawn 3 and lost 5
last eleven games under previous manager,won 1,drawn 2 and lost 8.just saying!
Cheers for that Al
Only interested in Derek now and how much I want him to achieve the goal of keeping this club in the Football league,
If he does that, he'll become an instant hero but if he doesn't, how does that play out?
Just saying
al1 wrote:Last eleven league games under Derek,won 3, drawn 3 and lost 5
last eleven games under previous manager,won 1,drawn 2 and lost 8.just saying!
Freez wrote:Last eleven in the League is won 2, drawn 3, lost 6 to be fair. Though the point remains the same I concur!
al1 wrote:3 wins in Orient,Newport and Vale
Freez wrote:Yes Orient was Kev n Baz and was 13 league games ago!
Shrimpy wrote:https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/competition:league-two/daterange/fromdate:2019-Jul-31/todate:2019-Oct-31/type:home-and-away/
Above is the league table when Jim left, we were bottom and 2 points away from safety.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/
Above is the league table since Jim left, we are 18th, 4 points from the bottom.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/
Above is the league table since Derek took charge, we are 21st, one point above the drop zone.
So we have improved since Jim left but the win that Kev and Barry got improves our predicament somewhat as opposed to direct improvements that Derek has made.
The biggest turn around is the home form. W0 D3 L5 under Jim, W3 D3 L1 after Jim.
Shrimpy wrote:https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/competition:league-two/daterange/fromdate:2019-Jul-31/todate:2019-Oct-31/type:home-and-away/
Above is the league table when Jim left, we were bottom and 2 points away from safety.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/
Above is the league table since Jim left, we are 18th, 4 points from the bottom.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/co ... -and-away/
Above is the league table since Derek took charge, we are 21st, one point above the drop zone.
So we have improved since Jim left but the win that Kev and Barry got improves our predicament somewhat as opposed to direct improvements that Derek has made.
The biggest turn around is the home form. W0 D3 L5 under Jim, W3 D3 L1 after Jim.
Gone_Shrimping wrote:We need Derek managing the side at home and JB managing the side away when you look at the stats
HALMA 1983 wrote:So in actual fact, absolutely nothing has changed and barring the good work Kev and Baz put in to
get those 3 crucial points against Orient, it would be...........exactly the same as????
Shrimpy wrote:HALMA 1983 wrote:So in actual fact, absolutely nothing has changed and barring the good work Kev and Baz put in to
get those 3 crucial points against Orient, it would be...........exactly the same as????
Well not quite.
Jim got 10 points in 16 games. Derek has got 10 points in 12 games.
At the rate Jim was getting points we'd have finished on 29, which would have seen us finish well bottom in each of the last 10 seasons.
Derek is doing slightly better, if we continue picking up points at the exact same rate we have since he took charge then over the course of a full season we would finish on 38. Whilst it is an improvement it still isn't good enough to guarantee we stay up. Points totals of the team finishing bottom over the past 10 years is as follows:
48
45
41
40
39
38
37
36
34
30
The issue as well is that Derek isn't starting from a clean slate, he's having to make up ground from Jim's poor start. Currently we have 23 points and there are 17 games left to play. Derek is picking up points at a rate of 0.833 per match which would see us get another 14 points by the end of the season for a grand total of 37 points.
So if we carry on as we are without any improvement then we're looking at about a 30/40% chance of not finishing bottom.
Shrimpy wrote:HALMA 1983 wrote:So in actual fact, absolutely nothing has changed and barring the good work Kev and Baz put in to
get those 3 crucial points against Orient, it would be...........exactly the same as????
Well not quite.
Jim got 10 points in 16 games. Derek has got 10 points in 12 games.
At the rate Jim was getting points we'd have finished on 29, which would have seen us finish well bottom in each of the last 10 seasons.
Derek is doing slightly better, if we continue picking up points at the exact same rate we have since he took charge then over the course of a full season we would finish on 38. Whilst it is an improvement it still isn't good enough to guarantee we stay up. Points totals of the team finishing bottom over the past 10 years is as follows:
48
45
41
40
39
38
37
36
34
30
The issue as well is that Derek isn't starting from a clean slate, he's having to make up ground from Jim's poor start. Currently we have 23 points and there are 17 games left to play. Derek is picking up points at a rate of 0.833 per match which would see us get another 14 points by the end of the season for a grand total of 37 points.
So if we carry on as we are without any improvement then we're looking at about a 30/40% chance of not finishing bottom.
marky No.1 wrote:Fine lines, chances missed, individual errors and officials decisions will be the factors.
Hope we have the bottle for the 21st March cos the way it's going the winner of that will hold the key to safety
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