Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thread

Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Phil Anderer » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:41 pm

I know we're not going to see that second half performance every week, but if it's a sign of things to come under Derek then I have to say that it's worth looking forward to.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Andy D » Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:20 am

A few casual fans(one stay away former season ticket holder) I spoke to after the game we’re saying things like

“I’m going to start going more often if they play like that”

“They look a different team under the new manager”

“Been told this Derek Adams as improved them so I’d thought I’d see for myself”

And did anybody hear anybody walking away from the ground complaing about running out of pies and taking ages to get served etc?? because I didn’t “it’s about what’s Dished out on the Pitch”

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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Slanester » Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:52 am

Andy D wrote:A few casual fans(one stay away former season ticket holder) I spoke to after the game we’re saying things like

“I’m going to start going more often if they play like that”

“They look a different team under the new manager”

“Been told this Derek Adams as improved them so I’d thought I’d see for myself”

And did anybody hear anybody walking away from the ground complaing about running out of pies and taking ages to get served etc?? because I didn’t “it’s about what’s Dished out on the Pitch”



Great to hear, and you are right Andy D, the footy and good results are number 1.

Just to put the “yang” to that. When the shite was deep, off and on the pitch, it was the faithful that kept supporting, paying in, and helped to keep the club going. As a result the casuals and returners, have the option of being there, when things are sweet, and definitely on the up. (point made for the last time.)

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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:55 am

Very true Andy. The crowds will increase if we hit a decent run of form at home and people start to hear about the quality of football being played. A win on Boxing day will be massive. Let's hope for a bumper crowd and 90 minutes of what we saw in the 2nd half today.

I believe the boys are in for a double session Xmas day so they should be well prepared.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby scalehallshrimp » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:01 am

Coverage on CH 5 programming did not do justice to To the quality of the 2nd goal
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Re: Morecambe 0 Newport 1 LIVE iFollow Thread

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:06 am

dannymorc1 wrote:Mendes Gomez still on. WHY? Weird substitutions.


Carlos was very important today and DA mentioned him in his interview with RL. Yes, he loses the ball a bit but we don't have anyone who can carry the ball up field like he does. He has a languid dribbling style but it is really effective. He never shies away from the ball and takes pressure off us. He made some very clever forward passes today and was a head ache for the Newport midfield and defence. I am really looking forward to seeing how he develops under DA. I think we are going to have to live with the odd mistake but we will soon realise what an important cog in the wheel he is.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby glagys » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:31 am

Thought Carlos was poor first half but I also thought he was let down by Lewis twisting and turning into trouble and not give the ball when Carlos was free,second half he was give more room and better service,still a little raw but refreshing to watch
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:47 am

glagys wrote:Thought Carlos was poor first half but I also thought he was let down by Lewis twisting and turning into trouble and not give the ball when Carlos was free,second half he was give more room and better service,still a little raw but refreshing to watch


We looked better with AJ playing off Cole. Lewis is still doing the stuff he did first time around. He slows our play down with his ball hogging and doesn't contribute enough. He doesn't hurt the opposition, he does all the fancy stuff in front of their defence without inflicting any damage.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby tim-sanchez » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:49 am

In the first half Carlos looked a bit aimless, lots of his dribbles went nowhere, but I think that was a symptom of the team's performance as a whole. Second half, the team were lifted, and because we were pushing forward, Carlos could do more at the end of his dribbles. Players were making runs, creating space, becoming an option. Not so much his fault if his dribbles ended in nothing if he had no options anyway.

I think he's a confidence player as well, and you could tell the whole side were more confident.

I agree in that we don't have many players that can offer what he does, he's not going to suit every match but at this level, few defenders will be able to cope with his style of play. As long as the rest of the team work with him we could have a very dangerous player, which is exactly what we need.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:07 am

glagys wrote:Thought Carlos was poor first half but I also thought he was let down by Lewis twisting and turning into trouble and not give the ball when Carlos was free,second half he was give more room and better service,still a little raw but refreshing to watch


Lewis doesn't look the player he was in the first few weeks of the season.

Has he got his mind on signing for AFC Fylde as suggested by his Twitter account.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Vinny » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:21 am

Watching the extended highlights, as I thought at the time, and likewise Mark Halstead, the ball does not go over the line for their 'goal'. Also, as I saw at the time, the sandwich tackle on the advancing Carlos in the first half was at least free-kick to us which the officials did not give. And then the final break that was abruptly curtailed by the ref's final whistle :roll: . Still, a great win and deserved 3 points and off the bottom of the table. Christmas cheers!!
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby redrobo » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:48 am

After a dismal first 45 DA made half time changes that showed to me that he isn't averse to changing things early if the game is not going to plan.

Can't recall the last time that changes at such an early time involving a couple of players took place with such a dramatic but welcoming outcome actually took place.

Wonder if that was the last time we will see at least one of them in a red shirt :?:

At times in that last 45 it was like stepping back in time to those good old days when we totally dominated the opposition.

If we can maintain such performances then we might just escape relegation without having to rely on the misfortune of others.

Well done DA and YOUR team of warriors..... and a special word of praise for Carlos, other managers would have taken him off but DA obviously sees something in him to have kept him on the field which will do wonders for Carlos's confidence :!: :!: :!:
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby glagys » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:52 am

Ref was hit and miss,
Liner on Berlin Wall gave the goal,although our lads didn't complain too much so who knows .
Liner on the main stand was clueless gave the flag to whatever the ref said, even came off our lad and they gave us the throw
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Keith » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:57 am

Only a point outside the play-offs! :D
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Keith » Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:05 pm

redrobo wrote:Tutt is a prime example of the legacy that JB left us with. :cry:

A far too big a squad of 27 at least 10 if not more are not EFL2 standard and what is even more criminal in my eyes is that JB spent (some would argue wasted ) the entire budget leaving nothing for signings come January.

JB built a number of differing squads over the years that produced season after season nothing more than a fight against relegation a fight that DA has inherited and if we do go down the fault lies entirely with JB.

JB should have gone much sooner and no other club would have accepted such a dismal record.


redrobo wrote:Well done DA and YOUR team of warriors..... and a special word of praise for Carlos, other managers would have taken him off but DA obviously sees something in him to have kept him on the field which will do wonders for Carlos's confidence :!: :!: :!:


Win and it is Derek's team of warriors. Lose and it is the mess Jim left us in. :roll:

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, Carlos was MotM at Plymouth. Second half definitely played to his strengths again. Derek making changes at half time was brave but worked superbly.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby redrobo » Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:20 pm

Time for a change after too many seasons of fighting relegation. JB will always be a legend but he was with us too long for his own good.

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We needed a different on field approach and now we've got it.... :D
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Keith » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:07 pm

redrobo wrote:Time for a change after too many seasons of fighting relegation. JB will always be a legend but he was with us too long for his own good.

:cry:

We needed a different on field approach and now we've got it.... :D


You're missing my point (or ignoring it! :roll:). If we lose it is Jim's fault, if we win it's Derek's squad.

Anyway... Good interview on the official site.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:15 pm

Keith wrote:
redrobo wrote:Time for a change after too many seasons of fighting relegation. JB will always be a legend but he was with us too long for his own good.

:cry:

We needed a different on field approach and now we've got it.... :D


You're missing my point (or ignoring it! :roll:). If we lose it is Jim's fault, if we win it's Derek's squad.

Anyway... Good interview on the official site.
https://www.morecambefc.com/news/2019/d ... rt-county/


Bloody hell Keith, I thought we were all moving on after yesterdays great win. :roll:
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby scalehallshrimp » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:05 pm

What an excellent interview how good was that 2nd goal.Think we may now move up the table with some luck and better match officials
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby redrobo » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:11 pm

Sorry Keith but have to say that the last couple of seasons have been bloody crap entertainment and it was time for him to move on.

I defended JB time after time when performances were utter rubbish but this last close season showed me that he relied too much on former players rather than going after non league players like Macc for example.

One minute you say it was down to finance and then you say it wasn't. Be honest and admit that the squad he assembled for the past couple of seasons didn't live up to expectations OR was it down to the negative tactics he employed? I genuinely think he'd run out of ideas and that he was looking for a way out sooner rather than later.

It's doubtful that our owners would have given him a new contract OR afforded him the luxury of money come January and who can blame them....I certainly don't... :o

He will always be a legend but the club needed a fresh face in charge of team affairs if only to rekindled the hope and aspirations of fans.

DA to date is like a breath of fresh air and it is just what we needed to get us out of the dire position we are in. Sorry to say this I wouldn't have had confidence that JB and Co would have got us out of the poo as other teams knew exactly how we would be set up after seasons of the same tactics.

I wish JB well at AFC but in all honesty I'm glad he decided to go. Entertainment had vanished..... and I genuinely believe that under DA we've got a manager who will deliver :D
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Sakhalin Shrimp » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:26 pm

Keith wrote:
You're missing my point (or ignoring it! :roll:). If we lose it is Jim's fault, if we win it's Derek's squad.


To be fair Keith, the performance of the players in the 2nd half yesterday bore no resemblance to one of Jim’s teams so what else is it down to?
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby sandgrown » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:58 pm

sadly L2 had sussed out Jim's tactics years ago.

and the entertainment had been dire for years driving away many lifelong supporters !
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:00 pm

I think yesterdays win is a great place to leave all the Jim Bentley stuff behind now. It is time to concentrate on the club with DA in charge and not to keep bringing Jim's name in to everything. His legend status is secure but he is manager of Fylde now. We have 2 supporters as new Directors and a January window to look forward too.
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Postby Westgate Wanderer » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:15 pm

In his interview DA was thinking of making changes before half-time! Waited until the restart so they couldn't react sooner to it. Good tactical thinking on his part..... and it worked. We overcame the 14 against us yesterday! On the highlights it was amusing to see DA come onto the pitch at the final whistle to shout at the ref for blowing the whistle when we were 2 v 1 he wanted that third goal :D Onwards and upwards
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Lonesome Prawn » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:16 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:I think yesterdays win is a great place to leave all the Jim Bentley stuff behind now. It is time to concentrate on the club with DA in charge and not to keep bringing Jim's name in to everything. His legend status is secure but he is manager of Fylde now. We have 2 supporters as new Directors and a January window to look forward too.


Don’t often post opinions on here, but Waller is right....it’s time to move on. After all is said and done we’re all on the same side
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