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[Redalert1970]

15 points from 63 points

Still only 1 point from safety

AMAZING

[Keith]

Newport equalised deep in to injury time and Oldham losing, so not a total disaster.

We were looking defensively strong until the sending off. They're a decent side, even with eleven players this was tough. Prior to ten men, we didn't look like a relegation bound side but then, I didn't think we looked too bad in most games this season, although in a couple we were dreadful. Unfortunately, our dreadful games generally came against other struggling sides, Stevenage & Oldham in particular.

A bit of luck and we could still turn things around, but we need the change quickly.

[Westgate Wanderer]

I think this result was expected, 4 points from the last two home games is an improvement. This is where we need to get the majority of our points to stay up.We have always had an average to poor away record in recent years. I do expect players to come and go next month though. Always managed to get some players in previous January windows that have helped us. Fingers crossed for this one too!

[BerlinWaller]

DA can only play the cards left behind by previous management. He said last week that the squad is too big and not good enough. He also mentioned the previous management spent all the budget in the summer whereas he likes to keep some spare for Jan.

LOL! What spare "budget"???

You didn't notice how we couldn't even compete with National League sides when it came to signing players?

Hopefully the owners will produce some cash in January, otherwise we're screwed.

Hi Keith, i think in your excitement to post you misread my post. I hope you haven't laughed too hard. In an interview with Radio Lancs last week, DA said that all this seasons budget had been used up in the summer. Still with me? He then said he doesn't like to work like that, he likes to keep some spare for the January market. Got that bit? Good. Have a listen to what he said during the interview Keith, he talks a lot of sense.

Shrimpeteer, time to stop the mourning and move on mate. In DA we trust but not even he can polish Jim's turd.

[BerlinWaller]

https://twitter.com/BBCLancsSport/statu ... 95009?s=09

A positive interview from DA. Again, talks lots of sense and mentions his pride in the players efforts.

Remember when Cranston got sent off and so many people on here tore in to him for costing us points? Not heard much from these people slagging Sam and Richie off. Strange that.

[Slanester]

DA can only play the cards left behind by previous management. He said last week that the squad is too big and not good enough. He also mentioned the previous management spent all the budget in the summer whereas he likes to keep some spare for Jan.

Thanks. I have won my £10 bet with a mate. He said that it would be at least 8 games before this was trotted out.

Agree though, any manager can only play with the squad he has. We will stay up.

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

Let's forget today.

Plymouth is a large city and historically Argyle have played at a lot higher level than league 2. Whilst they are currently up and down form wise, their current ground improvements and significant director/manager/player appointments suggest that they are a giant that may well re-awaken in the near future. Make no mistake they are on the up!

We on the other hand face an enormous scrap if we are to maintain our EFL status. We did well up to a point today but had little chance of competing after we went down to 10 men.

We have to give Derek Adams time to rebuild and being Morecambe we surely will. It's going to be one hell of a battle, even with only one team going down! We have no idea if the owners will provide any additional funding for January, maybe not with their stated intention to throw their lot in with the egg chasers.

Maybe the recent new directorships (traditionally they buy into the club with a share purchase) have more chance of giving Derek some wiggle room in January, that's assuming any players he may have in mind are even available.

Hopefully we can stay in the league and progress next season. I think Derek Adams is the man to do that, but we definitely need some good fortune from somewhere soon to achieve it.

UTS.

[BerlinWaller]

DA can only play the cards left behind by previous management. He said last week that the squad is too big and not good enough. He also mentioned the previous management spent all the budget in the summer whereas he likes to keep some spare for Jan.

Thanks. I have won my £10 bet with a mate. He said that it would be at least 8 games before this was trotted out.

Agree though, any manager can only play with the squad he has. We will stay up.

Does your mate want to make any silly bets with me? It is a fact, the squad left behind is poor. You were all saying it in defence of Jim so why is it different now?

[black morse]

First time I've seen the team live today. As said above, Plymouth are a good team and whilst a few of us hoped we might get something out of this game I don't think anyone really thought it was likely. Although Plymouth were always on top I thought we were holding them quite well until the red card. We were trying to press more than many games I've seen before and to me it looked possible we could keep them out. When the free kick produced a goal as well as a sending off we were never going to recover. Then the penalty made that a 100% certainty.

Second half we defended doggedly and considering they had the extra man and more skill and flair than us I thought we did well. The defence was absolutely shattered when the last goal went in late.

We should (and must) get points from the next 2 games.

[mrpotatohead]

Hilarious.....you were all full of it , and now it's Jim's fault that Derek can't make a silk purse of the sows ear he inherited, looking forward to the "same old dour interview", "I can't bring anyone in till someone leaves" comments being complained about , after the "blame Jim" honeymoon is over, what a bunch!!!

[Keith]

DA can only play the cards left behind by previous management. He said last week that the squad is too big and not good enough. He also mentioned the previous management spent all the budget in the summer whereas he likes to keep some spare for Jan.

LOL! What spare "budget"???

You didn't notice how we couldn't even compete with National League sides when it came to signing players?

Hopefully the owners will produce some cash in January, otherwise we're screwed.

Hi Keith, i think in your excitement to post you misread my post. I hope you haven't laughed too hard. In an interview with Radio Lancs last week, DA said that all this seasons budget had been used up in the summer. Still with me? He then said he doesn't like to work like that, he likes to keep some spare for the January market. Got that bit? Good. Have a listen to what he said during the interview Keith, he talks a lot of sense.

Shrimpeteer, time to stop the mourning and move on mate. In DA we trust but not even he can polish Jim's turd.

Yes, I understood your English.

We didn't have enough budget to compete the bottom third of the Conference yet there was going to be "spare" budget that didn't need spending pre-season and could be set aside for January? We couldn't even offer Liam Mandeville enough to stay playing in the Football League rather than drop in to non-League. I'm sure DA would like to save some budget for January... I bet JB would have loved to have enough budget to save some too!

[Slanester]

DA can only play the cards left behind by previous management. He said last week that the squad is too big and not good enough. He also mentioned the previous management spent all the budget in the summer whereas he likes to keep some spare for Jan.

Thanks. I have won my £10 bet with a mate. He said that it would be at least 8 games before this was trotted out.

Agree though, any manager can only play with the squad he has. We will stay up.

Does your mate want to make any silly bets with me? It is a fact, the squad left behind is poor. You were all saying it in defence of Jim so why is it different now?

Probably not. Feel a bit guilty really, because being on here, definitely gave me the inside info needed, to almost guarantee me winning the bet.

The majority of fans accept that the squad are who and what they are, that is not derogatory, just fact. Most of critics of our previous manager, were adamant that the squad was good enough, and all failings were down to him.....wrong choice of player, wrong tactics, poor substitutions, etc, etc, etc. A few games in with DA, and the same fans are putting the lack of results down to the squad, and that is then pinned on our previous manager, as another failing of his. Takes some thinking about, ffs.

[marky No.1]

https://twitter.com/BBCLancsSport/status/1205905607594795009?s=09

A positive interview from DA. Again, talks lots of sense and mentions his pride in the players efforts.

Remember when Cranston got sent off and so many people on here tore in to him for costing us points? Not heard much from these people slagging Sam and Richie off. Strange that.

Cant compare Cranstons sending off with the other 2 imo, his was petulance and un necessary, at least Sam and Richie were trying to defend.

Bit screwed for Saturday, Brownsword or Kenyon?

[Sakhalin Shrimp]

I'm sure I read somewhere, unless I was dreaming, that our squad is larger than some other teams in league 2 but some players don't get a game, surely a smaller, better quality squad would have been the way to go if the budget was limited.
Just a thought but what do I know, I was an engineering manager, not a football manager.

I don't know where I read it but if I can be arsed I'll have a look tomorrow, unless of course marky No.1 helps out

[Slanester]

https://twitter.com/BBCLancsSport/status/1205905607594795009?s=09

A positive interview from DA. Again, talks lots of sense and mentions his pride in the players efforts.

Remember when Cranston got sent off and so many people on here tore in to him for costing us points? Not heard much from these people slagging Sam and Richie off. Strange that.

Cant compare Cranstons sending off with the other 2 imo, his was petulance and un necessary, at least Sam and Richie were trying to defend.

Bit screwed for Saturday, Brownsword or Kenyon?

Absolutely right m1.” Slagging “ a player for trying to do his job, however over zealous, maybe getting it wrong, why would anybody?? Criticism of their decision making, fair enough.

Sat, is a must not lose game, a real tough call for DA.

[marky No.1]

I'm sure I read somewhere, unless I was dreaming, that our squad is larger than some other teams in league 2 but some players don't get a game, surely a smaller, better quality squad would have been the way to go if the budget was limited.
Just a thought but what do I know, I was an engineering manager, not a football manager.

I don't know where I read it but if I can be arsed I'll have a look tomorrow, unless of course marky No.1 helps out

It was me that wrote it after the Carlisle game having read the programme, unless u seen it somewhere else.

Slanester, "must not lose" is out of the window now for me, we need 3 wins from somewhere in the next few weeks just to hang on to shirt tails. Having not beaten Carlisle, for me we HAVE to beat Oldham whatever happens against Newport.
Thank goodness for Bury

[Little Shrimp]

Another red card that's thrown a game away. What's interesting is that in terms of general discipline, we're pretty good. We have 28 yellow cards - one of the lowest totals in the division. But five red cards is the joint most in League Two. It's not that we're just fouling people left right and centre, it's more that we're having reckless moments that are costing us.

Yesterday's red not as daft as Cranston's, but it was poor from Sutton. Again, ball behind him has caught him out. He's fine for defending the box but I can't believe how slow he is. No footballer should be beaten with that much of a head start. And then it was a poor decision to bring the man down. Obviously, he wasn't to know that Plymouth would score from the free kick, but he should have taken the chance with Halstead coming out and tried to put him off as he went for his shot. Least it would have kept 11 men on the pitch.

Second half - full credit to the rest of the team. They were excellent and rightly praised by DA in his post match interview. We even created a good chance that Alessandra probably should have scored when it was still 2-0, which could have made things very interesting in the final 20 mins or so. CMG was absolutely brilliant - our main attacking threat in a tough game, doing well to carve out some good moments for us. Also defended brilliantly working superbly hard to get back and track his man, which was important considering their LWB Cooper was playing excellently. Tanner did a great job too. Kenyon also continued to do well - he's really stepped it up since DA came in.

Overall, still some positive signs. I think we're all delighted to see CMG improve his defensive game, which will definitely earn him more minutes along with his attacking abilities. We pressed well in the first half - very tough on such a nice and big pitch against a team who knew how to use the ball so well. DA's style seems to be to use more attritional methods - pressing, clearances into channels etc - to gain territory and build up pressure on a side. Then from there, use what quality we have in attack to create scoring chances. We seem to be improving greatly in a more attritional sense, and hopefully with the likes of CMG coming into the side we can start creating a bit more with the ball when we get it up the pitch.

[redrobo]

I've been a long admirer of both Carlos and Jagne and it's brilliant to read that Carlos put in a real shift yesterday.

Just hope that he gets the chance of further minutes to impress DA which under JB he was rarely given an opportunity; the same applies to Jagne.

[redrobo]

https://twitter.com/BBCLancsSport/status/1205905607594795009?s=09

A positive interview from DA. Again, talks lots of sense and mentions his pride in the players efforts.

Remember when Cranston got sent off and so many people on here tore in to him for costing us points? Not heard much from these people slagging Sam and Richie off. Strange that.

Am I wrong to detect in DA's post match comments that he has been told that he will have some money come January for new players.....

I'm warming to his post match interviews which despite results have been encouraging and gives credit to certain players when it is deserved as he did regarding Carlos.

[Keith]

I'm warming to his post match interviews which despite results have been encouraging and gives credit to certain players when it is deserved as he did regarding Carlos.

I'm just pleased that Derek agreed with me!

One positive from today. Last time I saw Mendes-Gomes, he was running around like a headless chicken. Today, he'd probably be my MotM. He's covered loads of ground, defended well and been involved in anything positive we've produced going forwards. Let's hope he's beginning to realise his potential.

Plymouth just hit the post.

[Sakhalin Shrimp]

I'm sure I read somewhere, unless I was dreaming, that our squad is larger than some other teams in league 2 but some players don't get a game, surely a smaller, better quality squad would have been the way to go if the budget was limited.
Just a thought but what do I know, I was an engineering manager, not a football manager.

I don't know where I read it but if I can be arsed I'll have a look tomorrow, unless of course marky No.1 helps out

It was me that wrote it after the Carlisle game having read the programme, unless u seen it somewhere else.

Slanester, "must not lose" is out of the window now for me, we need 3 wins from somewhere in the next few weeks just to hang on to shirt tails. Having not beaten Carlisle, for me we HAVE to beat Oldham whatever happens against Newport.
Thank goodness for Bury

Thanks Mark, it was your post and I think I saw it elsewhere too.