In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby marky No.1 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:53 pm

Yes, Miller is a season long loan, said it before but why did we need all these players that didn't/don't get much game time?

Quality not quantity for me

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Meanwhile if Sam gets a ban it will be for 4 games as it is his second straight red, can do without that with our already creaking defence
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:59 pm

Jim had a free reign at the club and has handed deals to players that didn't really warrant them. Hopefully he will turn up with his Fylde cheque book in the summer
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby Keith » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:04 pm

If Jim has money to spend now, I doubt if there are many of our current squad he'd be interested in! He's not shopping in charity shops now he can go to Sainsbury's (if not quite Waitrose). Sam and probably... ...err... that's it? He may be interested in Kev if he thinks he'd be a useful addition to his coaching team.

Hopefully Derek will get some funds in January.
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby Andy D » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:05 pm

Seem to recall Rod Taylor at a fans forum asking for help from the Shrimps trust to fund and help secure a player/players in the following days we then sign Allesandra and Miller, and thought both were on short term deals because it was all we could afford to offer them at the time with money being tight.

PS and something to do with Andy Fleming being injuried and having to pay him too, its coming back to me now!
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby HALMA 1983 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:13 pm

Keith wrote:If Jim has money to spend now, I doubt if there are many of our current squad he'd be interested in! He's not shopping in charity shops now he can go to Sainsbury's (if not quite Waitrose). Sam and probably... ...err... that's it? He may be interested in Kev if he thinks he'd be a useful addition to his coaching team.

Hopefully Derek will get some funds in January.


Still, fair to say that most of the current squad would be more at home in Fyldes and they'd no doubts perform better at that level.
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:19 pm

Keith wrote:If Jim has money to spend now, I doubt if there are many of our current squad he'd be interested in! He's not shopping in charity shops now he can go to Sainsbury's (if not quite Waitrose). Sam and probably... ...err... that's it? He may be interested in Kev if he thinks he'd be a useful addition to his coaching team.

Hopefully Derek will get some funds in January.



Fylde will be able to attract lads chasing the money but will they attract top end players like Salford did? Average crowd of 1600 last season despite chasing promotion and a FA Trophy win. I can see Jim coming back for a couple of players, he surrounded himself with his favourites.
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby HALMA 1983 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:27 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:
Keith wrote:If Jim has money to spend now, I doubt if there are many of our current squad he'd be interested in! He's not shopping in charity shops now he can go to Sainsbury's (if not quite Waitrose). Sam and probably... ...err... that's it? He may be interested in Kev if he thinks he'd be a useful addition to his coaching team.

Hopefully Derek will get some funds in January.



Fylde will be able to attract lads chasing the money but will they attract top end players like Salford did? Average crowd of 1600 last season despite chasing promotion and a FA Trophy win. I can see Jim coming back for a couple of players, he surrounded himself with his favourites.


Most managers surround themselves with their favourites, mainly, because they can be relied on ;)
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby redrobo » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:46 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:
Keith wrote:If Jim has money to spend now, I doubt if there are many of our current squad he'd be interested in! He's not shopping in charity shops now he can go to Sainsbury's (if not quite Waitrose). Sam and probably... ...err... that's it? He may be interested in Kev if he thinks he'd be a useful addition to his coaching team.

Hopefully Derek will get some funds in January.



Fylde will be able to attract lads chasing the money but will they attract top end players like Salford did? Average crowd of 1600 last season despite chasing promotion and a FA Trophy win. I can see Jim coming back for a couple of players, he surrounded himself with his favourites.


He knows how short of cash we could be come January, assuming that our owners don't put their hands in their pockets again, in which case he may come in with a derisory offer for Sam that falls below his true value,

However if it was in the region of £250,000 then it may be worth negotiating a deal with a heavy sell on clause. Anything less and we are selling Sam and our club short.

That assumes that Sam would even contemplate dropping down a league with no guarantee that they would get promotion in the foreseeable future.....if ever :!: :!: :!:
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:50 pm

marky No.1 wrote:Yes, Miller is a season long loan, said it before but why did we need all these players that didn't/don't get much game time?

Quality not quantity for me

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24637&hilit=Sean+Miller

Meanwhile if Sam gets a ban it will be for 4 games as it is his second straight red, can do without that with our already creaking defence


Agreed. A contract for Kenyon ! If they had not signed Alessandra , Miller and Kenyon would it have been possible to make Richie Bennett an offer he could accept ?
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby Redalert1970 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:57 pm

Bet the players are loving this morale boosting post about who should stay or go

Really sure it’s going to make them play better
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:21 pm

HALMA 1983 wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:
Keith wrote:If Jim has money to spend now, I doubt if there are many of our current squad he'd be interested in! He's not shopping in charity shops now he can go to Sainsbury's (if not quite Waitrose). Sam and probably... ...err... that's it? He may be interested in Kev if he thinks he'd be a useful addition to his coaching team.

Hopefully Derek will get some funds in January.



Fylde will be able to attract lads chasing the money but will they attract top end players like Salford did? Average crowd of 1600 last season despite chasing promotion and a FA Trophy win. I can see Jim coming back for a couple of players, he surrounded himself with his favourites.


Most managers surround themselves with their favourites, mainly, because they can be relied on ;)


Not really
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby Andy D » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:39 pm

Redalert1970 wrote:Bet the players are loving this morale boosting post about who should stay or go

Really sure it’s going to make them play better
its no different anywhere else, pretty sure if you go onto the forums with the likes of Barrow, Carlisle, Accrington etc it will be in the same vain.

And i doubt Derek unlike Jim will read anything of the sort or give a XXXX about what us lot think about signing and selecting players and rightly so.
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby mrpotatohead » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:46 pm

Jim is history , Derek is the future, so why continue whining like bitches about him, I don't get it, it's pathetic.
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby glagys » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:47 pm

I would of thought flemo would have been pensioned off paid by insurance not the clubs funds but not 100% on that
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:11 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:Jim is history , Derek is the future, so why continue whining like bitches about him, I don't get it, it's pathetic.


Still a bit raw? We can come up with code words if that will ease your pain?
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby mrpotatohead » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:16 pm

Haha not at all , I don't give a toss, like I won't when you all turn on Derek.
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:39 pm

glagys wrote:I would of thought flemo would have been pensioned off paid by insurance not the clubs funds but not 100% on that



No , quite rightly Andy Fleming stays on our payroll pending the usual medical reports etc which have to be completed before the Insurance Company pays out.
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby Little Shrimp » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:46 pm

Think DA is absolutely right to say our squad is basically a bit cumbersome and unbalanced. That's not to say it's lacking in quality, but there's no tactical direction or coherency to the type of players we've signed.

I'm surprised to see people ready to let go of Alessandra. Goals have dried up but consistently offered a creative output up front. I think him and Stockton work quite nicely together, they seem comfortable knocking it about to each other. Miller's signing hasn't gone well, but that's not surprising seeing as JB has always said how similar him and AJ are (both technical, intelligent strikers). Not really sure what the value is in having both, especially with a budget like ours.

The same kind of goes for Sutton. He's a decent pro with a bit of experience, but I'm not sure how much we can afford to have players like him filling the squad as such. We're bloated in that we have some experienced players basically just as squad players, and youngsters who don't get anywhere near the first team. For all we play them currently, we may as well just cut them all and give whatever we have from that to one or two older players.

Then there's the tactics. We're unsure of our best formation because there isn't really one that makes the best use of all our players. O'Sullivan is a good player but a conundrum in terms of where his best role really is. I wonder if he'd work as a box to boxer with a bit of quality in a midfield three. Who knows! Hopefully DA is starting to shape some sort of a plan. Big positive in the squad for me is currently Brewitt, and that seems to have been spotted by the current management team too. Not the best of summers for JB in hindsight probably, but Brewitt is an absolute catch and ironically from what's now his own club!
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby jbc.shrimp » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:34 pm

I would be very surprised if D.A would have taken the job without negotiating for funds. The unfortunate thing is his hands are pretty much tied until January with some big games through the festive season to come ? !
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby marky No.1 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:29 pm

Gone_Shrimping wrote:
KenH wrote:
redrobo wrote:Also 2 year deals I think to Stockton, Old, Tutte and O'Sullivan but not sure.


Heaven help us then.


I thought Stockton only signed a 1 year contract. Old and Tutte are both in the 2nd year of their 2 year contracts. I think O'Sullivan is on a 2 year contract.

One of the Anoraks ,maybe Marky No.1 will know the contract situation.


Yes, pretty much as Berlin says:
O'Sullivan June 21
Buxton June 20, (with 1 year option)
Cranston June 21
Miller, season long loan
AJ, June 2021
Conlan, June 2021
Brewitt, June 20, (with 1 year option)
Halstead, June 21
Howard, June 20, (with 1 year option)
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby redrobo » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:42 pm

I would like to see us give Brewitt a contract extension ASAP.

Not sure if he was released at AFC or had come to the end of his contract and that no new deal was offered, whatever the circumstance JB was able to get him on board with the prospect of EFL football but whatever it was for me one player who DA should feature as an integral part of his squad rebuilding exercise.
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby jbc.shrimp » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:04 pm

Ok, so we know the opinion of some about certain players, but who would we like to see us attempt to bring in, considering costs ?
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby MfcChris » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:06 pm

Andy D wrote:
Andy D wrote:Just been brought to my attention that Lewis Allesandra and Sean Miller are out of contract in January.


Just incase anybody wants to ignore this again :twisted:

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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby redrobo » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:39 pm

jbc.shrimp wrote:Ok, so we know the opinion of some about certain players, but who would we like to see us attempt to bring in, considering costs ?


All depends on who we can let go out on loan or even on a permanent basis which then would hopefully release some money to bring in some much needed quality.

As much as we would hope that our owners would make some money available it all depends on the above.

Assuming therefore that we are able to bring in players that fit DA's agenda then for me it would have to be at least a central defender, a couple of midfielders (one creative plus one destroyer :evil: ) and an out and out goal poacher who gets stuck in and puts his body and head into situations that others would be afraid to go.

I don't expect us to be able to get all of the above but it is coming up to Christmas so who knows... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

Postby BerlinWaller » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:14 pm

We need a short term fix in January. We need lads who are going to put a shift in and drag the current squad along with them. We need goals but as DA keeps saying, we concede too many.
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