RedRedWine wrote:Not many English players though......combine the four teams, can you even get a decent starting 11? I'm not sure you can. When the national side fails to get past the quarter finals of a major competition questions will be asked as to why this is the case. Pretty obvious to me.
DawZi wrote:all top teams in Europe have gone this way, in Spain Italy and even Germany, the premiership is no different but i detect a lot of jealousy in the continent with our league, it's that what winds me up
but am all for this new rule enforcement there Trying to bring in ie. where six English players will have to be in every premiership, and as A Ferguson full backing
Aspers wrote:Pretty amazing standard our premier league.
Aspers wrote:Also Celtic and Rangers should not be in the Scottish Prem.
Its ruining Scottish football.
I've heard that argument for as long as I can remember.
Different argument - they are just much bigger clubs than the rest in Scotland and always have been.
ManU and Liverpool have always been our biggest clubs and always will be (no-one can object to that). They would always win more than most but by engineering this guaranteed income (with Arsenal - Chelski had to spend ridiculous amounts at the right time to get their noses in the trough) they have made sure no-one else has a chance.
Unlike in Scotland - a lot of other teams in England won our top division and our premier domestic cup competition before the CL. Now the Prem is an impossibility for non CL clubs and the FA Cup is a once in a blue moon (Everton and Pompey in the last 15 years?) rarity.
Be good if Villa or Everton get a chance this year.
I also think the CL has devalued the European Ties.
I guess thats progress.
It may be the way 'big business' is driven (centralising resources and feeding a corporate empire) but it's not 'progress' in terms of the sport.
Sport was always meant to try to create an environment for fair competition. This has precisely the opposite intention and effect. If you doubt that, have a look at the G14 website and look at its stated aims. Its aim is purely to benefit its own member clubs, basically saying, stuff everyone else.
They are, to be fair, quite open about that - it's everyone else (including other Prem clubs and Uefa, who have let them get away with it instead of having the bottle to stand up to them).
I mean I remember when the L6 ran from Heysham Towers to Christie Park.
They changed that,
I guess that's progress.
shrimper wrote:Sport was always meant to try to create an environment for fair competition.
Pretty amazing standard our premier league.
RedRedWine wrote:Not many English players though......combine the four teams, can you even get a decent starting 11? I'm not sure you can. When the national side fails to get past the quarter finals of a major competition questions will be asked as to why this is the case. Pretty obvious to me.
pompeyred wrote:RedRedWine wrote:Not many English players though......combine the four teams, can you even get a decent starting 11? I'm not sure you can. When the national side fails to get past the quarter finals of a major competition questions will be asked as to why this is the case. Pretty obvious to me.
1 GK B. Foster (M)
2 RB J.Carragher (L)
3 CB J.Terry (C)
4 CB R. Ferdinand (M)
5 LB A.Cole (C)
6 DM. O. Hargreaves Mid (M)
7 CM. F.Lampard (C)
8 AM. S. Gerrard Mid (L)
9 LM. J. Cole Mid (C)
10 RM. T.Walcott (A)
11 Att. W.Rooney (M)
GK. B.Amos (M)
Def. W.Brown (M)
Def. G. Neville (M)
Mid. M. Carrick (M)
Mid. P.Scholes (M)
Att. D. Welbeck (M)
(A) - Arsenal
(C) - Chelsea
(L) - Liverpool
(M) - Manchester United.
So.....not an 11 true but a very good 16 I think.
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