Phoenix wrote:Are there any pictures from todays game ??
Plenty, thanks for asking.
Thats a bit of a mean response to an honest question Brian.
Phoenix wrote:Are there any pictures from todays game ??
Plenty, thanks for asking.
Keith wrote:I've said this in the past after similar situations, that is a load of bollocks Brian and if that happened as described, it is wrong. If 100% of the people in an area were abusing someone on the pitch, then fine, it's open season, but I'd be amazed if it ever is that case. Even if 90% are abusing someone, the other 10% should not be subject to abuse back from the professional. That's why the complaint should be made to the stewards, they should be doing their job, and if they aren't, the club should be reported to the FA. If I'd been in a section where a group of people were abusing a manager and the manager then sprayed me with Lucazade, I would be furious and damn right, I'd complain.
If I'd been doing the abusing, so be it. But as I wouldn't have been, it would be wrong. As I say, if 100% of the people 'abused back' were guilty, they shouldn't moan. As I recall, the last time this came up foul and abusive language was shouted by a player 'back at the crowd', but in that section were children who heard it directed at them, who weren't involved and that is what made it wrong.
Smirnoff Please wrote:Keith wrote:...if that happened as described, it is wrong. If 100% of the people in an area were abusing someone on the pitch, then fine, it's open season, but I'd be amazed if it ever is that case...
I don't often take issue with what people post on here but I am fuming at the rubbish above.
How you can comment from your armchair in the Isle of Man is astonishing. Throughout the game a minority of home fans were goading Sammy from behind the dugouts. When Port Vale scored the same minority were gesticulating and shouting abuse at Sammy and the rest of the Morecambe bench. When we went up the other end and equalized Sammy celebrated, as he always does, he turned to the fans and put his hands to his ears to say cant hear you now. They didn't like this and a few went to the front and pointed fingers and berated him. After scoring the winner at least 15 rushed to the dugout and were banging on the clear plastic. There were at least 4 stewards stood there who did absolutely nothing. They were like a baying mob, these wern't kids but very worked up adult males who didn't want to shake sammys hand. I didn't see the alledged liquid being sprayed so can't comment, something you might want to consider in future Keith.
Smirnoff Please wrote:There were at least 4 stewards stood there who did absolutely nothing.
And that is the problem.
Even if 90% are abusing someone, the other 10% should not be subject to abuse back from the professional.
Keith wrote:Smirnoff Please wrote:Keith wrote:...if that happened as described, it is wrong. If 100% of the people in an area were abusing someone on the pitch, then fine, it's open season, but I'd be amazed if it ever is that case...
I don't often take issue with what people post on here but I am fuming at the rubbish above.
How you can comment from your armchair in the Isle of Man is astonishing. Throughout the game a minority of home fans were goading Sammy from behind the dugouts. When Port Vale scored the same minority were gesticulating and shouting abuse at Sammy and the rest of the Morecambe bench. When we went up the other end and equalized Sammy celebrated, as he always does, he turned to the fans and put his hands to his ears to say cant hear you now. They didn't like this and a few went to the front and pointed fingers and berated him. After scoring the winner at least 15 rushed to the dugout and were banging on the clear plastic. There were at least 4 stewards stood there who did absolutely nothing. They were like a baying mob, these wern't kids but very worked up adult males who didn't want to shake sammys hand. I didn't see the alledged liquid being sprayed so can't comment, something you might want to consider in future Keith.
I've narrowed my original post down to the key bit.
It's quite a simple concept if you follow it through logically...
For example, 20 people stood together and 15 are abusing a player, manager. The remaining 5 are watching the game, minding their own business.
The player or manager responds by abusing the 20. He has responded to 15 who deserve it and 5 who don't.
Those five people have now been abused by the player of manager and that is just as wrong as the original fifteen. We now have 16 people 'in the wrong', but one of those is a professional. You yourself said this was a "minority" of fans. That reinforces my point that by responding some of the majority are caught up.Smirnoff Please wrote:There were at least 4 stewards stood there who did absolutely nothing.
And that is the problem.
MRH wrote:Not really sure how we came away with nothing today. I think a draw would have been a fair result. Port Vale rarely threatened then suddenly found themselves one up. When Bentley equalised within a minute it looked like we were safe for at least a point.
Was very impressed with McGivern; he looks a class player and settled very quickly.
Many will see today's performance as an indication that all will be well, but there has to be a concern that, no matter what Sammy tries, we can't get a win.
We are hovering desperately close to the drop zone and it's getting increasingly difficult to see where that win will come from. Some say we'll be ok, but there has to be a cautionary warning that it just might not be.
We need to win and we need to win soon.
campdave wrote:Getting back to matters on the pitch, it was a great team performance, but we must keep working to reduce individual errors.
I thought the formation worked really well, and could benefit from a fit Blinkhorn in for Taylor, who although he has done well is still rough round the edges and touch and decision making isn't always the best. Hunter in midfield for either Drummond or Stanley, as McLachlan I felt harrassed their midfield all afternoon, cutting down the time they had on the ball, which is something we'e not done well all season.
Stanley was as bad as he was good yesterday - some great passes, but a lot of wasted possession when he's trying to be a flash harry. Personally, I think his set pieces - there appears to be no precision, just whacks it into the general area. I thought Ryan McCann was very good when he came on, not sure if it was tactical or thorugh an injury to Drummond.
Valefan wrote:I was very impressed with the guy who scored for you, he had Rodgers in his back pocket all day until the 80th minute where he made the mistake and Luke scored.
We rarely threatened? Im sorry but were you at the game? We hit the inside of the post, had one tipped onto the bar and missed a one on one that should have been buried without doubt.
Jody wrote:Thats funny - I'm sure it was a dead ball from Stanley that went straight to Jimbo for our equaliser. He was excellent yesterday.
MRH wrote:We rarely threatened? Im sorry but were you at the game? We hit the inside of the post, had one tipped onto the bar and missed a one on one that should have been buried without doubt.
Yes I was at the game but had taken advantage of the local hospitality earlier so maybe my memory is a little impaired
I remember the second half being more even and the game had a goalless draw all over it during that half. Maybe I should have waited a day before posting
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