marky wrote:Muzzer, the original thread was closed for a reason? Copying something from it and then creating a new thread...?
Okay...
FIRSTLY, EVERYONE TREAD CAREFULLY AND THE THREAD STAYS OPEN There was a lot of important, interesting comments in that other thread. There was also a lot of personal stuff (in both directions) and was either going to take 24hr watching or it would degenerate into a bun-fight at best or more likely, a re-run of the Salam Witches. I'm going to post a PM I received regarding this and my response to it. I hope people read the response and understand the position better. I
THEN hope that people will use some restraint, so that we can begin to look forwards. I'm not going to say who PM'd me, so don't ask or guess.
I know how things stand... but this bloke is way out of order and needs to know it... I now know for a fact after speaking to Ken Parker tonight the board are not happy at all with the brutal attacking of the team and management. It seems they are startled as to what has brought it on, as am I. I believe the only way to stop it is to come down on the individuals and to have what I put removed was disapointing. I was telling him that apologies are no use on SV. My intention was to let this man know that his actions were not beyond an apology, but for gods sake lets apologise to the right people. These people must realise that their abusive ways may well have consequences much harsher than their words. I do respect your decision but must question why this message board is halted in its rightful quest to totally condemn these people?
For what it is worth, I largely agree with you, these people do nothing to help the team, booing and personally attacking players is totally out of order and is, in my opinion, a form of bullying. These people forget that the players (and refs or managers for that matter) are human beings and have family in the stands. I remember talking to Justin Jackson's mother after a game where she was close to tears because she'd been in the stand, listening to her son being abused. She told me that night that she doubted if she'd ever come to watch him again. I hope she did, especially as the abuse was from opposition fans (not that that made it right, just not 'as wrong') but her pain that night was clear. Do people who 'pay their money' really have a 'right' to make another person feel like that?
However, it is not the forum's position to become personal, two wrongs not making a right. The guy has (admittedly anonymously) apologised publically. As those people who sit around him will know him and as he took the time to register on the forum with the intention of issuing that apology, we should take it at face value and hope that lessons have been learned and these actions won't be repeated.
Leaving the thread open would simply lead it to become a battle zone. Believe me, I had PM's suggesting it be closed even before the apology message appeared!!!
Cheers, Keith
