Egypt O/T

[shrimpnsave]

Where next
Yemin

[mrpotatohead]

yeahman

[shrimpnsave]

yeahman

THANKS for that imput,was kind of expected

[Little Shrimp]

I've been to Egypt...........................

[mrpotatohead]

I have been to Swowdi Arabiyeah.

[Plain Peter]

What makes me laugh is that both Tunisia and Egypt have been run by autocratic villainous governments for donkeys years.
Yet they are supported by the Yanks, UK and most other Western governments.
Sh*t was always likely to happen, this is it, the people have set out their stall and won't turn back.

Tourists should know better as well, but all they want is a cheap holiday.
Fortunately me and Doris had our 3 weeks in Tunisia in November, and next month it's another 3 weeks in Istanbul and Antalya

[mrpotatohead]

we are also being run by america peter, we are smithers, america is mister burns

[Sammy h]

Any travel advise gone out? Went last year to Sharm and planning on going again in the summer, don't think it has spread that far though.

Might be able to get a cheap deal

[Plain Peter]

Sharm is alright at the moment (but could change in an instant!), avoid just about everwhere else unless travel is essential:

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/middle-east-north-africa/egypt

Best place to keep up-to-date is on Aljazeera News (Freeview channel 89, after 1800 daily).

The current British Ambassador to Egypt, Dominic Asquith (great grandson of Herbie) was my last ever Countersigning officer in Riyadh, before I packed in the FCO.
He wrote of me "....if only Peter could shake off his rustier manifestations... ".

[Plain Peter]

we are also being run by america peter, we are smithers, america is mister burns

Yep, and when it hits the fan the Yanks go into panic mode.

[mrpotatohead]

one of our members is in sharm el sheck at the mo, he says it is a living hell, cold bacon, no ice, sarcastic waiter screwing his wife.......

[shrimpnsave]

Where next


The whole middle east

[Sammy h]

Looks like Egypt is safe to go now

[shrimpnsave]

Just booked a months vacation in saudi,,,will i be safe there

[Sammy h]

Just booked a months vacation in saudi,,,will i be safe there

Hope you got a good price

[shrimpnsave]

Just booked a months vacation in saudi,,,will i be safe there

Hope you got a good price

all in flight accom ,beer and food for £1

[Posh]

The utter hypocrisy of Western governments is being exposed by the people of the Middle East. Governments we've supported like Libya are now committing acts of genocide against their own people after trying the same against ours. Yet we still appear wholly behind the leadership in Bahrain who are murdering their people because we see them as a bulwark against the influence of Iran.

It's this kind of double-speak and sheer hypocrisy that was exposed through the Wikileaks' diplomatic cables. However instead of dealing with the murders, the corrupt and the brutal regimes of the Middle East we've left it to the people to die on the streets to do it for us. Instead governments threaten Wikileaks.

Instead of attacking companies for working with murderers and for bribing leaders we encourage it. Meanwhile we get companies to attack Wikileaks. What a f**ked up world we live in.

[shrimpnsave]

The utter hypocrisy of Western governments is being exposed by the people of the Middle East. Governments we've supported like Libya are now committing acts of genocide against their own people after trying the same against ours. Yet we still appear wholly behind the leadership in Bahrain who are murdering their people because we see them as a bulwark against the influence of Iran.

It's this kind of double-speak and sheer hypocrisy that was exposed through the Wikileaks' diplomatic cables. However instead of dealing with the murders, the corrupt and the brutal regimes of the Middle East we've left it to the people to die on the streets to do it for us. Instead governments threaten Wikileaks.

Instead of attacking companies for working with murderers and for bribing leaders we encourage it. Meanwhile we get companies to attack Wikileaks. What a f**ked up world we live in.

my question is what does happen in a persons brain to a person like Muammar al-Gaddafi when hes been in power for 41 years,if it was you would you be the same person as before you came to power


western intererfering more like for there greed for money

and also while i am ranting if your family were starving and a bar of gold or piece of bread was put in front of you what would you take as your salvation


Cantona style

[Plain Peter]

Just booked a months vacation in saudi,,,will i be safe there

Don't think so.
Saudi doesn't do run-of-the-mill tourism.
You'll only get a visa if you're a muslim going to Mecca for the Haj; or if you have a recognised sponsor (usually an employer eg British Aerospace).

[Bare Ben]

WHOOSH!

[Plain Peter]

Governments we've supported like Libya are now committing acts of genocide against their own people after trying the same against ours.

Libya was in the wilderness wasn't it, then Mr Bliar went slavvering up to Gaddafi. The videos were on TV yesterday, made me feel sick!

Yet we still appear wholly behind the leadership in Bahrain who are murdering their people because we see them as a bulwark against the influence of Iran.

American Fifth Fleet and all that. Bahrain is 70% pro-Iranian shi'ites, and the other 30% sunni. Not a good balance, especially with where tiny Bahrain sits on the map. As the shi'ites in Saudi Arabia are oppressed, there could be big bother if the Yanks abandoned Bahrain and Saudi.

What a f**ked up world we live in.

Indeed. And it was good to see David Cameron being pro-active and getting his bum across to Egypt as soon as he could.