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O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:42 am
by heysham_mfc
Worst referee desision of the season he made a complete hash of it. Also why did he tell the players to 'go away' while he spoke to the linesman then RF comes over and he doesn't say anything to him.
Right thats it mini late night rant over for more info please see any national Sunday newspaper (not the mail though) :lol:

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:32 am
by Bellers The Shrimp
heysham_mfc wrote:Worst referee desision of the season he made a complete hash of it. Also why did he tell the players to 'go away' while he spoke to the linesman then RF comes over and he doesn't say anything to him.
Right thats it mini late night rant over for more info please see any national Sunday newspaper (not the mail though) :lol:


Well, i think the goal was right to stand. When nani went over he hand balled it, the ref played advantage and the linesmans flag didnt go up. Gomes then picked the ball up and dropped it, meaning that the ball was back in open play, nani, stood, and asked the referee if he could kick the ball, the referee said he could because he'd played the advantage and the ball was in play, so nani scored. The linesman then put his flag up to say it was handball but the ref said yes, i saw it and played advantage.

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:41 am
by Little Shrimp
Bellers The Shrimp wrote:
heysham_mfc wrote:Worst referee desision of the season he made a complete hash of it. Also why did he tell the players to 'go away' while he spoke to the linesman then RF comes over and he doesn't say anything to him.
Right thats it mini late night rant over for more info please see any national Sunday newspaper (not the mail though) :lol:


Well, i think the goal was right to stand. When nani went over he hand balled it, the ref played advantage and the linesmans flag didnt go up. Gomes then picked the ball up and dropped it, meaning that the ball was back in open play, nani, stood, and asked the referee if he could kick the ball, the referee said he could because he'd played the advantage and the ball was in play, so nani scored. The linesman then put his flag up to say it was handball but the ref said yes, i saw it and played advantage.


If it was advantage, why didn't the ref signal it?

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:41 am
by HALMA 1983
Wonder if the same had happened against UTD would it of been all well and good?

Fergie would have been on the pitch that's for sure......................... Moaning, Sour faced jock he is!

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:44 am
by Bellers The Shrimp
If it was advantage, why didn't the ref signal it?[/quote]

Well he kind of did by not giving the free kick and by telling nani he was free to have a shot :ugeek:

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:51 am
by Heysham_Shrimp
This same referee failed to see Pedro Mendez's lob had finished in the back of the Man Utd net several years ago.

This is all about the spirit of the game.

Fairly obvious that the Man Utd player handled the ball and that it should have been a regulation free kick to the defending team. The ref should have realised that what happened was against the spirit of the game and that Tottenham had not received an advantage in fact anything but an advantage !

I guarantee that the same incident at the other end would not have resulted in a goal being awarded.

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:02 am
by Christies Child
Heysham_Shrimp wrote:This same referee failed to see Pedro Mendez's lob had finished in the back of the Man Utd net several years ago.

This is all about the spirit of the game.

Fairly obvious that the Man Utd player handled the ball and that it should have been a regulation free kick to the defending team. The ref should have realised that what happened was against the spirit of the game and that Tottenham had not received an advantage in fact anything but an advantage !

I guarantee that the same incident at the other end would not have resulted in a goal being awarded.


No fan of Man Utd then..... :?:

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:07 am
by Heysham_Shrimp
Christies Child wrote:
Heysham_Shrimp wrote:This same referee failed to see Pedro Mendez's lob had finished in the back of the Man Utd net several years ago.

This is all about the spirit of the game.

Fairly obvious that the Man Utd player handled the ball and that it should have been a regulation free kick to the defending team. The ref should have realised that what happened was against the spirit of the game and that Tottenham had not received an advantage in fact anything but an advantage !

I guarantee that the same incident at the other end would not have resulted in a goal being awarded.


No fan of Man Utd then..... :?:



they receive every advantage the referee can be persuaded to give them by Ferguson.

If Utd are losing going into injury time Ferguson harasses the 4th official to increase the time added on. There was a famous case where it was amended after he spoke to the official !

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:13 am
by RedRedWine1
Couldn't have happened to a better team, cockney bankers with a W.

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:03 am
by Sammy h
The goal should have stood. No arguments. Nothing to do with being at OT etc etc.

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:13 am
by Bare Ben
Man Ure always get the decisions oops I mean Man Utd

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:37 am
by Heysham_Shrimp
Sammy h wrote:The goal should have stood. No arguments. Nothing to do with being at OT etc etc.



everything to do with being at OT. There is no way this referee would have awarded a goal like that to the away side at OT.

At least Chelsea who are the best footballing side in the premier league will win the title :lol:

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:38 am
by Sammy h
Heysham_Shrimp wrote:
Sammy h wrote:The goal should have stood. No arguments. Nothing to do with being at OT etc etc.



everything to do with being at OT. There is no way this referee would have awarded a goal like that to the away side at OT.

At least Chelsea who are the best footballing side in the premier league will win the title :lol:



I am not a Manchester United fan if that's what your getting at? Arsenal are the best footballing side in the premiership?

Gomes is an absolute idiot. The goal was his fault. What's the big fuss, they were already 1-0 up.

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:44 am
by George Dawes
it's plain & simple as Alan Hansen say's you play to the whistle .

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:52 am
by RedRedWine1
I agree, Gomes at fault. You can't make allowances for stupidity, otherwise you get £1 million council houses. I'm also no lover of Manchester United either. Complete overreaction from the southern media. Who cares anyway, you'd be mistaken for thinking that if not for that goal Spurs would have won the world cup. They would have still lost the match.

Arsenal easily the best footballing side to watch in the premiership, Chelsea the best football side. There is a difference. Cheer up chimney sweep.

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:50 pm
by Matty the Shrimp
Bellers The Shrimp wrote:Well, i think the goal was right to stand.


Well you would :lol:

It was right to stand yes. But a complete balls up. The ref gave no advantage, and even if he had. It was obvious that Tottenham wanted a free kick. More over Nani should have got a yellow card for a delibrate hand ball.

One over thing. What is the point of having linesmen if the refs just dismiss anything they say? :roll:

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:53 pm
by Bellers The Shrimp
Matty the Shrimp wrote:
Bellers The Shrimp wrote:Well, i think the goal was right to stand.


Well you would :lol:

It was right to stand yes.

End of story :)

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:56 pm
by Matty the Shrimp
Like i said, it was, but it was the wrong desicon in the first place, it was a free kick.

And like some other people have said in this thread if Tottenham had done the same thing at the other end, you can bet any amount of money it wouldn't have stood otherwise you'd ave 70,000 nut jobs on your case :lol:

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:59 pm
by Bellers The Shrimp
Yes, but the referee didn't give a free kick, he gave an advantage :) plus we were 1-0 up anyway and tottenham didn't score :A

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:01 pm
by Matty the Shrimp
But it was clear that Tottenham wanted a free kick as the goal keeper put the ball down. So the ref should have ended the advantage and then given the free kick.

Its not about wether it would have effected who won, its just saying that the ref made a massive cock up.

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:02 pm
by Bare Ben
Bellers The Shrimp wrote:Yes, but the referee didn't give a free kick, he gave an advantage :) plus we were 1-0 up anyway and tottenham didn't score :A


OOPS :roll:

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:04 pm
by Bellers The Shrimp
They may have wanted a free kick but it's the referee who controls the game and he played an advantage

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:06 pm
by Matty the Shrimp
Its their advantage, they should be given what they want.

Matthew, this doesn't change anything in the match. And it doesn't change anything between us babes. :lol:

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:06 pm
by jonnythedog
Personally i think the goal should have stood, partly because of the fact that you should always play to the whistle but mostly because I have Nani in my Fantasy Team. 8-)

Re: O/T Man Utd's second goal

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:08 pm
by Keith
Bare Ben wrote:
Bellers The Shrimp wrote:Yes, but the referee didn't give a free kick, he gave an advantage :) plus we were 1-0 up anyway and tottenham didn't score :A


OOPS :roll:


LOL! Good spot Ben. Morecambe 1 Spurs 0? That would stop the moaning, we'd all agree the tactic of going for 1-0 wins was the right one THEN! :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: