Former Shrimps Thread

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Postby Gone_Shrimping » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:33 pm

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Keith wrote:Gone Shrimping & BerlinWaller, would both have dropped Jack Redshaw for Podge at the time?

I thought at times that I would have liked to see Podge instead of Jack, but Jack was doing the job. I'm sure if we'd known Blackpool were going to come in for Jack a few months later, we'd have kept Podge. But we didn't.

Good luck to him.


Totally. Podge was an out and out goalscorer and Jack was pretty much lame who had flashes of quality. Podge could have hit 20 a season if used correctly.

I hate having to go over this again and again but here are his goalscoring records at League 2 level:

11/12 - Accrington - 8 goals in 45 appearances
12/13 - Accrington - 9 goals in 43 appearances
13/14 - Morecambe - 11 goals in 49 appearances
14/15 - Morecambe - 10 goals in 41 appearances
16/17 - Hartlepool - 14 goals in 49 appearances
17/18 - Newport - 15 goals in 55 appearances

This idea that he's a 20 goal a season striker and we mismanaged him is complete nonsense. His record shows that he's good for on average around 12 goals a season at this level before this season where he's in the best form of his career and has 21 goals in 45 games.

He was a good player for us, the logic behind letting him go when we did was sound. Some players we let go will end up doing better at other clubs, this is the nature of football and we'll have had many players in the past who have excelled with us having previously been let go by other clubs. There is no need to use Podge as a stick to beat Jim with.


How many of those were starts or substitute appearances ?

As mentioned we played him mainly on the wing and he still did quite well. Who knows how many he would have bagged if played as a striker.

Anyway water under the bridge now.
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby BerlinWaller » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:57 am

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I thought at times that I would have liked to see Podge instead of Jack, but Jack was doing the job. I'm sure if we'd known Blackpool were going to come in for Jack a few months later, we'd have kept Podge. But we didn't.

Good luck to him.[/quote]

Totally. Podge was an out and out goalscorer and Jack was pretty much lame who had flashes of quality. Podge could have hit 20 a season if used correctly.[/quote]
I hate having to go over this again and again but here are his goalscoring records at League 2 level:

11/12 - Accrington - 8 goals in 45 appearances
12/13 - Accrington - 9 goals in 43 appearances
13/14 - Morecambe - 11 goals in 49 appearances
14/15 - Morecambe - 10 goals in 41 appearances
16/17 - Hartlepool - 14 goals in 49 appearances
17/18 - Newport - 15 goals in 55 appearances

This idea that he's a 20 goal a season striker and we mismanaged him is complete nonsense. His record shows that he's good for on average around 12 goals a season at this level before this season where he's in the best form of his career and has 21 goals in 45 games.

He was a good player for us, the logic behind letting him go when we did was sound. Some players we let go will end up doing better at other clubs, this is the nature of football and we'll have had many players in the past who have excelled with us having previously been let go by other clubs. There is no need to use Podge as a stick to beat Jim with.[/quote]

How many of those were starts or substitute appearances ?

As mentioned we played him mainly on the wing and he still did quite well. Who knows how many he would have bagged if played as a striker.

Anyway water under the bridge now.[/quote]

Correct, dumped on the wing and dropped regularly. Out of interest, can you put Jack Redshaws record up?
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Shrimpy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:58 am

BerlinWaller wrote:Out of interest, can you put Jack Redshaws record up?

No problem:

11/12 - Morecambe - 2 goals in 11 appearances
12/13 - Morecambe - 16 goals in 45 appearances
13/14 - Morecambe - 8 goals in 29 appearances
14/15 - Morecambe - 12 goals in 44 appearances
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Phoenix Shrimp 2017 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:16 pm

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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:21 am

Shrimpy wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:
Keith wrote:Gone Shrimping & BerlinWaller, would both have dropped Jack Redshaw for Podge at the time?

I thought at times that I would have liked to see Podge instead of Jack, but Jack was doing the job. I'm sure if we'd known Blackpool were going to come in for Jack a few months later, we'd have kept Podge. But we didn't.

Good luck to him.


Totally. Podge was an out and out goalscorer and Jack was pretty much lame who had flashes of quality. Podge could have hit 20 a season if used correctly.

I hate having to go over this again and again but here are his goalscoring records at League 2 level:

11/12 - Accrington - 8 goals in 45 appearances
12/13 - Accrington - 9 goals in 43 appearances
13/14 - Morecambe - 11 goals in 49 appearances
14/15 - Morecambe - 10 goals in 41 appearances
16/17 - Hartlepool - 14 goals in 49 appearances
17/18 - Newport - 15 goals in 55 appearances

This idea that he's a 20 goal a season striker and we mismanaged him is complete nonsense. His record shows that he's good for on average around 12 goals a season at this level before this season where he's in the best form of his career and has 21 goals in 45 games.

He was a good player for us, the logic behind letting him go when we did was sound. Some players we let go will end up doing better at other clubs, this is the nature of football and we'll have had many players in the past who have excelled with us having previously been let go by other clubs. There is no need to use Podge as a stick to beat Jim with.



18/19 Podge has 21 goals to date including goals against Man City and Leicester City. Jack is where ?
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Little Shrimp » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:41 pm

I feel this really is a tiresome debate. I disagree with a fair few things Bentley does but this whole Amond issue has been completely blown out of the water. This is League Two and we're a poor club. Decisions have to be made over players to keep etc and unfortunately, this one turned out this way. Are people seriously saying that Jim should have predicted everything? Amond has also been used on the wing at times at Newport, just to add.

I was sorry to see Amond and wish we could have kept him, but that's football sometimes. Bentley made a judgement call that few would have argued with at the time.

It's hardly like the alleged situation with Devitt and Miller. Also, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that the board were reluctant to sign Amond in the first place, and Jim had to fight to get him?
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:39 am

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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Shrimpy » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:51 am

Little Shrimp wrote:I feel this really is a tiresome debate. I disagree with a fair few things Bentley does but this whole Amond issue has been completely blown out of the water. This is League Two and we're a poor club. Decisions have to be made over players to keep etc and unfortunately, this one turned out this way. Are people seriously saying that Jim should have predicted everything? Amond has also been used on the wing at times at Newport, just to add.

I was sorry to see Amond and wish we could have kept him, but that's football sometimes. Bentley made a judgement call that few would have argued with at the time.

It's hardly like the alleged situation with Devitt and Miller. Also, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that the board were reluctant to sign Amond in the first place, and Jim had to fight to get him?

People always view this as a Redshaw vs Amond debate when the real comparison should be Barkhuizen vs Amond as Amond's departure was to make room for Barkhuizen in the squad.
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby HALMA 1983 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:52 am

Little Shrimp wrote:I feel this really is a tiresome debate. I disagree with a fair few things Bentley does but this whole Amond issue has been completely blown out of the water. This is League Two and we're a poor club. Decisions have to be made over players to keep etc and unfortunately, this one turned out this way. Are people seriously saying that Jim should have predicted everything? Amond has also been used on the wing at times at Newport, just to add.

I was sorry to see Amond and wish we could have kept him, but that's football sometimes. Bentley made a judgement call that few would have argued with at the time.

It's hardly like the alleged situation with Devitt and Miller. Also, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that the board were reluctant to sign Amond in the first place, and Jim had to fight to get him?

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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Phoenix Shrimp 2017 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:29 pm

Little Shrimp wrote:I feel this really is a tiresome debate. I disagree with a fair few things Bentley does but this whole Amond issue has been completely blown out of the water. This is League Two and we're a poor club. Decisions have to be made over players to keep etc and unfortunately, this one turned out this way. Are people seriously saying that Jim should have predicted everything? Amond has also been used on the wing at times at Newport, just to add.

I was sorry to see Amond and wish we could have kept him, but that's football sometimes. Bentley made a judgement call that few would have argued with at the time.

It's hardly like the alleged situation with Devitt and Miller. Also, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that the board were reluctant to sign Amond in the first place, and Jim had to fight to get him?


I agree LS and when I posted the link about his selection for the full International squad it was more in a raised eybrow surprised mode than a dig at anyone at the club. Certainly never had him down as that calibre when he played for us (and I'm fully aware of the played out of position debate). At his next club Hartepool he was apparently atrocious but had allegedly downed tools at that point. I actually preferred both Barkhuisen and Redshaw to him and saw them as superior players.
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:41 pm

Phoenix Shrimp 2017 wrote:At his next club Hartepool he was apparently atrocious but had allegedly downed tools at that point.


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Postby al1 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:28 pm

First goal for Aaron Mcgowan yesterday for Hamilton
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:43 am

Izak Reid didn't last long at Chasetown. He's now signed for Hednesford Town.
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:18 am

Seasider9601 wrote:Izak Reid didn't last long at Chasetown. He's now signed for Hednesford Town.


He doesn't last long anywhere !

He seemed quite an exciting signing when we acquired him but turned out to be very disappointing.
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:36 am

Gone_Shrimping wrote:
Seasider9601 wrote:Izak Reid didn't last long at Chasetown. He's now signed for Hednesford Town.


He doesn't last long anywhere !

He seemed quite an exciting signing when we acquired him but turned out to be very disappointing.


I think he alluded to the travel time from his Stafford base to Morecambe and the M6 being a problem?

Left us and signed for ............. Barrow.

Geography obviously not his strong point.
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:43 am

Jack Dunn is back at Warrington Town and scored for them on Saturday.

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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby black morse » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:10 pm

Seasider9601 wrote:Jack Dunn is back at Warrington Town and scored for them on Saturday.

How the "mighty" fall.


Not as mighty as he thought he was :roll:
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Seasider9601 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:53 pm

Simon Grand has just scored for Chester
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Seasider9601 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:54 am

Nathan Bondswell has been playing for Carlton Town recently but appears to have left now

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Postby outsider » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:06 pm

Tom Naylor ;) :lol: playing for Portsmouth at Wembley today.
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Keith » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:39 pm

outsider wrote:Tom Naylor ;) :lol: playing for Portsmouth at Wembley today.


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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:56 am

Steven Yawson signed for Prescot Cables

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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:02 am

From the Workington forum regarding Thommo and Jason Walker:

"Walker and Thompson big disappointments and too old."

"I wouldn't bring back Taylor, Walker or Thompson next season absolute waste of money."

"IS there something in walkers / Thompson contracted there they have to start a game put both on the bench for Tuesday."

"It's easy to blame Thompson & Walker for everything. But I saw 8 other players on the pitch yesterday who came out of the game with no credit. I haven't included Brad as he put a shift in. Getting rid of Walker and Thompson will make no difference."
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Re: Former Shrimps Thread

Postby HALMA 1983 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:05 pm

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