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Found this on the Chesterfield forum.
see if you can read it without getting mad
http://www.thecfss.co.uk/forums/index.p ... opic=24985


also found this about our new ground
http://www.thecfss.co.uk/forums/index.p ... opic=24983

To be fair, I didn't find either thread annoying. There were a couple of numpties but generally it was a fair and reasonable discussion about Barry. The difference between supporting your own players rather than getting on their backs is clear. We're a group of fans who support their own, Chesterfield have a group of people who prefer to give their own players grief.

Likewise the ground discussion. Considering it is another League Two message board, the thread was generally quite balanced.

I think there were more 'positive' or 'balanced' comments than negative.

I do wonder how many Morecambe fans would think highly of Shwan Jalal? He's worshipped down in Bournemouth... As for the thread about the ground, I actually agree with a lot of what they say.

I wonder why so many people on their site are so bothered about our so called 'tin-pot, non league' club? Seems to me like more of them have a view on our new ground the we do. I can honestly say i have not got a clue what their ground looks like and i couldn't give a shi-ite! You're best off out of there Baz!!

I really do believe that Chesterfield are the worst supporters in the league, always on their players backs and always calling for the managers head,

When Jalal played for us he was a great shot stopper but his handling and kicking was rubbish. However, since he has gone to Bournemouth his kicking and handling has improved alot. It looks like the same thing has happened to Roche with Chesterfield and us, but we don't go around slaggin Jalal off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Without knowing the full background of the Globe, it will always look poor value to any outsider compared with other stadia, but when you consider what we're getting, the additional corporate boxes, first class training facilities, sports hire, Gym, planning for fast food & hotel, relocating a local team and building them a new pitch & changing facilities.... it all add's up to fabulous value.

They may have a 10,000 all seat stadium but it's going to be mostly empty and there isn't the scope for the income 365 days of the year from the additional facilities we have at the Globe.

I'm sure they'll be happy with the away end and the whole feel of the Globe once they've visited.

Why blow even more money on a bigger ground when we don't have the fan base for it?
Much rather we do when we have done and spend the money on first class facilities than have a big all seater ground which looks empty.

Theres nothing wrong with the new stadium at all. It might not look much on pictures, but once you actually go down and take a look at it, even from the outside, it looks bloody brilliant!

The main stand is something else, and wouldn't look out of place at a top championship sides ground. Both home and away ends are neat and tidy, and can both be extended if we need to raise the capacity? I agree that the side opposite the Main Stand is poor, and is odd for a brand new stadium to not have a roof on one side, but we have to live with it and it might just add some of the Christie Park character into the stadium

After what they've said about Roche in the past, and having heard them on there players backs when we've played there, there supporters aren't a patch on ours.

Proud to support MFC

Seems to me the mighty (!) spireites dont have much to chat about their own club so are having a go at us! Dont like our new ground then dont bother coming!! By the sounds of their critisism of Baz they never liked him, he seems to be a much improved player for us. Might have something to do with our coaching staff helping him and our supporters cheering him not jeering him. Looking forward to finishing higher than chesterfiel and their super stadium next season. Wonder what it will look like with 2,500 supporters lost in that ground!

I think we all agree (this could be a first ) that a Stadium with a capacity of 10,000 with only 3,000 in it wont hold a candle to a Stadium with a capacity of 6,000 with 2,750 in it....

I'd rather see our new home end packed to the rafters than a row of empty blue seats behind a goalkeeper.

Corporate facilities for all those massive PLC's based in Morecambe??? Sounds like a money making plan to me.

I'm pleased with the facilities that we are getting at the new ground, but:

Why do the initial plans show a ground with four proper stands with four proper roofs, yet the current build only has three proper sides that each have a roof?

Why has the home end decreased both in size and the facilities on offer, yet the overall spend on the project stayed the same?

Why did it take so long to start the build, and why was the full extent of the proceeds from the ground branding not been properly announced (even if it was a speculative sum, 6 figure fee etc)?

In each case I'm not arguing that the club needs any of the above, just that they were in the plans yet have not come to fruition. I trust the board's management of the club, but for some reason I think certain aspects of the ground move pose questions. Was the initial budget wildly ambitions, or have costs arisen that club didn't have a contingency for?

The club applied for planning permission as was, so when in future we need to change (because of promotion ) we are able to allot easier than having to start at the planning stage all over again.

Monies were paid by Sainsburys for the ground and put into the bank. Interest rates fell and not as much money was made as was anticipated. This affected the amount we were able to spend.

I have little doubt that within 4/5 years the North side of the ground will be covered.

I also trust the board and the guys steering this club. We are going in the right direction, sometimes I think there may be reasons why the club cannot release details of plans.

Costs have risen and, as Mick says, the interest on the Sainsbury's income has plummeted. There was also real prospect of various grants but, over the past couple of years, those funding bodies have had their budgets slashed.

One issue affecting the start date was a technicality (and a formality but it needed settling) on the legal side which the club waited ages for a court date.

But, generally, my view is, just trust them.

They've not done too badly so far and, in truth, they've done far more for the club than this town and its 'support' deserves.

When i look at the Globe i almost get a sinking feeling, there is no symmetry to the place, by this i mean that the two covered terraces are unequal in size and that the community block stuck at the end of the open terrace just looks odd. I don,t know what the extra cost would have been in real terms but with a budget of ? 12 million i would have made the two covered terraces identical and built the community block at the centre of the open terrace. At a push i would also put a small roof over the middle third of the open terrace. I feel that this would have given the whole stadium a more symmetrical feel to the place. Having looked at Chesterfields 10500 all seater stadium and our 6400 mainly standing ground i can understand why people are making derogatory comments towards the Globe.

BHmfc wrote:When i look at the Globe i almost get a sinking feeling, there is no symmetry to the place, by this i mean that the two covered terraces are unequal in size and that the community block stuck at the end of the open terrace just looks odd. I don,t know what the extra cost would have been in real terms but with a budget of ? 12 million i would have made the two covered terraces identical and built the community block at the centre of the open terrace. At a push i would also put a small roof over the middle third of the open terrace. I feel that this would have given the whole stadium a more symmetrical feel to the place. Having looked at Chesterfields 10500 all seater stadium and our 6400 mainly standing ground i can understand why people are making derogatory comments towards the Globe.

I'm sure that a few have similar thoughts but the need to move from a tired stadium to something that will be revenue generating has been discussed many times on here.

I'd rather we lived within our means and guaranteed survival at a time when everybody is going to feel the pain of Government cuts in a multitude of areas, irrespective of whatever colour resides at No10.

My main concern with the new stadium is that the Community block has been built in such a way that any future spectator development along that side will have limited viewing in the area adjacent to the side of the Community block. I also believe that the positioning of the floodlight in that area is the result of the Community Block being closer to the pitch than would have been under normal circumstances. However time will tell if I'm wrong about that and in truth is of only minor visual concern.

Despite criticism from a number of quarters both on SVs and elsewhere about the design of The Globe Arena I think we should be proud of what will be achieved in a few weeks time. I'd rather have a stadium like The Globe that provides on-going revenue streams as well as serving a much needed community purpose than other new stadia that may deliver a greater capacity but will have little opportunity to fulfill its potential.

As sad as it is to see CP crushed and battered, the truth is that it was getting very old and to maintain it as a sporting venue would have required a lot of money being spent on a decaying structure in the months and years ahead. The cost of replacing the asbestos throughout the stadium alone would have taken up many thousands, that would have had to be sourced from somewhere.

For me the new stadium will breath new life into our club and be of significant benefit to the community at large.

all the moaning people who are having a go at the new ground should take a step back and look at the situation of crystal palace who might not even have a club next week never mind a ground is that what the moaners want

Has anyone read the thread title recently?

BHmfc wrote:When i look at the Globe i almost get a sinking feeling, there is no symmetry to the place, by this i mean that the two covered terraces are unequal in size and that the community block stuck at the end of the open terrace just looks odd. I don,t know what the extra cost would have been in real terms but with a budget of ? 12 million i would have made the two covered terraces identical and built the community block at the centre of the open terrace. At a push i would also put a small roof over the middle third of the open terrace. I feel that this would have given the whole stadium a more symmetrical feel to the place. Having looked at Chesterfields 10500 all seater stadium and our 6400 mainly standing ground i can understand why people are making derogatory comments towards the Globe.

i know where your coming from.

i think its job well done on 3 sides to the ground.

but the North east quadrant building looks ODD to say the least and the money what was spent on that could have paid for a roof and made more room for capacity to that stand and then we could have had a really good looking stadium all round

Fast forward 10 years. Community block is being demolished to allow a stand of similar stature to the Main Stand to be built. Community facilities will be provided under this stand in a similar way to the facilities in the Main Stand. That is what I hope we will end up with.

I quite like the unsymmetrical design though..gives the place character already whether designed like that intentionally or not. Give it a season or two for us to settle in and I'm sure we'll all know who's got the better new stadium!

marky wrote:Fast forward 10 years. Community block is being demolished to allow a stand of similar stature to the Main Stand to be built. Community facilities will be provided under this stand in a similar way to the facilities in the Main Stand. That is what I hope we will end up with.

when you look at the for difference in value compared to the B2net Stadium(costing 13-million) a ground nearly twice the size and all seater would be even bigger if they had standing terracing behind there goals

plus they also have conference rooms and banquet rooms just like us to generate none match day income, all be it -minus some all weather training pitches --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2net_Stadium


i cant belive what a deal there getting and there ground is more future proof than ours in the sense if we grow as a club and get a couple of promotions we will be kicking ourselves

and dont forget we only just fell short of playing L1 football, so it's not unrealistic to not think Morecambe can achieve bigger and better things

DawZi wrote:

marky wrote:Fast forward 10 years. Community block is being demolished to allow a stand of similar stature to the Main Stand to be built. Community facilities will be provided under this stand in a similar way to the facilities in the Main Stand. That is what I hope we will end up with.

when you look at the for difference in value compared to the B2net Stadium(costing 13-million) a ground nearly twice the size and all seater would be even bigger if they had standing terracing behind there goals

plus they also have conference rooms and banquet rooms just like us to generate none match day income, all be it -minus some all weather training pitches --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2net_Stadium

I wonder what the cost would have been had they NOT received considerable grants. Because being all seating they qualified for grant funding?

Remember our Board listened to whether the fans wanted all seating or not and acted accordingly.

when you look at the for difference in value compared to the B2net Stadium(costing 13-million) a ground nearly twice the size and all seater would be even bigger if they had standing terracing behind there goals

plus they also have conference rooms and banquet rooms just like us to generate none match day income, all be it -minus some all weather training pitches





echoed by an earlier post by me...
either they got a fantastic deal or have we got ripped off

but didnt they get their land free

Remember our Board listened to whether the fans wanted all seating or not and acted accordingly.

you cannot be serious