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More photos just been posted on official website , things are moving on at a pace now.

Doing well to keep things moving forward with all the bad weather. The home end looks even smaller in these pictures, I think I'm going to miss the view from the top of the North Stand!

There doesn't look much room for a good size bar area under the stand either

It is disappointing that the new home stand has to be smaller than originally planed due to the costs but as mentioned on another thread the atmosphere should be better and it might even be a bit warmer that the North Stand which can be so cold at times.

So there might be a few positives to take out of what appears initially to be a negative.

The thing i don't understand is if the home end is now the same size as the away end then how come there is such a difference in capacity, 2,000 to about 1,100 if my memory is right.

Am I right in thinking that the Home stand is the standing area behind the goals? much like our current North stand?

Looking at the piccies of the steelwork it looks very, very small and one of the piccies says it is a SEATED area???? hope hat was just a typo

As others have said it may well be a much better atmosphere with everyone packed closer together, I hope that the facilities are of a high standard behind the new Home stand as the outdoor ones we have at the moment are just not good enough. looking at the piccies I see there's not much room for them though!

Apart from the main stand i think our new ground could look a bit like the deva stadium at chester

Fgh shrimp wrote:Apart from the main stand i think our new ground could look a bit like the deva stadium at chester

God I Hope not!! Souless horrible stadium is the Deva. I really can't see our directors making that mistake.

The home end looks the same size as the away end at Burton

P/T Indie wrote:The home end looks the same size as the away end at Burton

I think Our ground will be a carbon copy of Burton's with the exception of a roof over the North stand.

Just looking at the pictures again and the one taken from behind the new home stand really does show how little room there is under the stands! My only assumption is that there won't be any facilities under there? I can't imagine a bar, food outlets or even toilets fitting under there.

Can anyone clarify if us North standers will be getting any covered facilities in the new home stand?

***EDIT*** Just found this on the stadium site, so unless things have changed we must be getting some covered facilities under the stands.

"The new home stand will accommodate 2234 standing spectators and will have bar and catering outlets in a large enclosed concourse to the rear of the stand."

I can only apologise that the announcement of the naming of the new stadium has been let out of the bag by 'bill ding'. We had hoped to have been more professional in the way that it was announced, but the PR company handling the naming wanted to release the information to keep fans up to date with developments.


With regards to the size of the stand, at this stage it does look rather small but once the terracing is in place it will stand comparison against the present North Stand. It will be smaller no doubt about that, but on the plus side with circa 1250 fans in it on an average game it will certainly create more of an atmosphere than the present North Stand. As for faciliities I suggest we wait until the stand is completed before expressing concern about the lack of space for bars etc. An open shell as it is now doesn't reflect what it will hold internally when completed. I'm sure that the club have made projections of the numbers who would potentially make use of a bar and catering outlets and that the original design brief and subsequent final scheme reflects those projections.

North Stand Shrimp wrote:***EDIT*** Just found this on the stadium site, so unless things have changed we must be getting some covered facilities under the stands.

"The new home stand will accommodate 2234 standing spectators and will have bar and catering outlets in a large enclosed concourse to the rear of the stand."

By the sounds of that quote, they wont be under the stand but behind it, so the low height shouldn't affect the facilities.

it does look a little small but could it be that there will be an enclosed area to the rear of the stand for the proposed facilities

Looking at the site plans again and taking into consideration the comments on here, which appear to be correct from all available evidence, it would very much appear that if you like standing outside in the open for a beer and a bite to eat in sub zero temperatures then the new home end will be right up your street

To me it very much appears that there will be first class (main stand) and third class (home terrace) spectator facilities.

When the plans were announced I hoped that we who like to stand behind the goals and get behind the team would be given somewhere to have a warm pre match and at half time, to have a drink and something to eat in a bit of comfort. I really can't see any evidence of this on the plans or latest photos!

I for one really miss that about the non league days when we could go in the bar under the mainstand at half time to thaw out and have a drink in comfort.

It very much looks that if you want that level of spectator facilities in the new ground you will have to go in the main stand. If any one from the club is reading this perhaps they can confirm or deny speculation on here.

Great comfort and little atmosphere; or decent atmosphere and very, very basic facilities. You decide!

It looks like the new terracing is 8 steps, which is only about half way up the present North Stand.

Looks like MFC have already made more money cos me and the missus are going to move into the seated area to get higher up for a better view. So that makes 1.2 singers in the new seated section. Which means you North Standbys are likely to be outsung by Gerry and the Attrics we may take a skiffle board and biscuit tin to get the beat going up there.

Image number 19 of the latest set could have given us an idea of the height of the area below the actual terracing (where the catering facilities are to be ) had there been a phographers assistant (Ian L ) standing next to the central column supporting the structure. At the moment there is nothing to judge the scale of the structure and therefore its height.

Burnley Shrimp wrote:Looking at the site plans again and taking into consideration the comments on here, which appear to be correct from all available evidence, it would very much appear that if you like standing outside in the open for a beer and a bite to eat in sub zero temperatures then the new home end will be right up your street

To me it very much appears that there will be first class (main stand) and third class (home terrace) spectator facilities.

When the plans were announced I hoped that we who like to stand behind the goals and get behind the team would be given somewhere to have a warm pre match and at half time, to have a drink and something to eat in a bit of comfort. I really can't see any evidence of this on the plans or latest photos!

I for one really miss that about the non league days when we could go in the bar under the mainstand at half time to thaw out and have a drink in comfort.

It very much looks that if you want that level of spectator facilities in the new ground you will have to go in the main stand. If any one from the club is reading this perhaps they can confirm or deny speculation on here.

Great comfort and little atmosphere; or decent atmosphere and very, very basic facilities. You decide!

"The new home stand will accommodate 2234 standing spectators and will have bar and catering outlets in a large enclosed concourse to the rear of the stand."

Not sure why judging by the snippet above on the stadium website, but I always assumed that bar areas and catering outlets would be contained under the stand itself and have cover? I believed that you'd be able to walk from the front of the stand straight through to the back via access sections contained within the terrace and that the size of the new home end would be roughly the same as the new North stand (although the capacity would be reduced owing for sections of terracing being replaced by exits running through the stands). From the pictures I can't see how this will be the case, it just doesn't look big enough. Can't wait to get down and have a look for myself though.

Edit: missed a couple of posts above, similar to what I'm talking about.

RRW I though something along the same lines but they could indeed do something like they have done a Burton but the word 'concorse' suggests to me that it would be under the standing area ans you would simly just be able to walk under like at Shrewsbury but on a smaller scale. Would be nice if someone from the club or anyone invoved with the biulding of the new fround could clear this up.

The plans say "catering units and bar will be in an enclosed concourse" so that will be what transpires.

What happened to the web-cam that was supposed to be installed ?

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:
What happened to the web-cam that was supposed to be installed ?

I don't remember that ever being anything other than people on here saying they would like one, but (I think) Posh explained how one wasn't possible (lack of electric on the site being a pretty big stumbling block).

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:The plans say "catering units and bar will be in an enclosed concourse" so that will be what transpires.

What happened to the web-cam that was supposed to be installed ?

I think the problem that some people have, me included, is that this does not appear on the stadium plans that are on the site. Also looking at the photo's again this morning there doesn't seem to be any foundations behind the stand for an enclosed concourse. I am sure the club fully intend to have the facilities in place, but following the problem of the missing roof a few doubts are showing.

Christies Child wrote:Image number 19 of the latest set could have given us an idea of the height of the area below the actual terracing (where the catering facilities are to be ) had there been a phographers assistant (Ian L ) standing next to the central column supporting the structure. At the moment there is nothing to judge the scale of the structure and therefore its height.

I think photo number 3 of 24 in the latest pictures gives a better impression of the size of the concourse.

Is there a separate toilet block going to be built? There is a statutory number of urinals and toilet cubicles that have to be provided for 2,300 spectators.

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:The plans say "catering units and bar will be in an enclosed concourse" so that will be what transpires.

What happened to the web-cam that was supposed to be installed ?

'Enclosed Concourse' does not definitely mean it will be a covered/warmer area. My interpretation looking at the latest photographs and site plans is that it could be very similar to the current arrangements in place on the North Stand. i.e. an open area between the exterior fence and rear of the stand. This is no problem at all when the weather is fine and dry but a big let down when we enter the brass monkey period between November and March.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out in the next couple of months. If it does turn out to be extremely basic in the home end I can see quite a few moving to the Main Stand. I've watched from behind the goals all my life but if the facilities in the main stand are going to be so much better then I can see a transfer looming.

Is there a separate toilet block going to be built? There is a statutory number of urinals and toilet cubicles that have to be provided for 2,300 spectators.[/quote]

Go onto the new stadium site and open the document that's called Site Plan.

If you enlarge the Home Stand area of the Site Plan you will see that it shows toilets to the left and right of an area that will be the catering area. This is not identified as such but it will be the catering area.

Take a look also at the external elevational drawings. The diagram that isn't coloured shows an area towards the centre where a section is identified to have SIGNAGE. This suggests to me that there will be facilities that can have dual serving points ie Interior and Exterior.

As has been suggested, it would be most welcome if a club apokesperson could clarify concerns rasied by others about the Home Stand.


With regards to photo 3 without anything in the photo to give a sence of scale it is not possible to make a finite judgement on the size of the stand. My guess is that the centre column holding up the structure is circa 9'. This is based on a visual calculation of the human figures shown on the elevation diagrams which will be in scale to the scheme drawings. Also if you look closely at the same elevation diagrams you can just make out the terracing that has been included in the side elevation of the Home Stand.

campdave wrote:

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:
What happened to the web-cam that was supposed to be installed ?

I don't remember that ever being anything other than people on here saying they would like one, but (I think) Posh explained how one wasn't possible (lack of electric on the site being a pretty big stumbling block).

There was never any intention to have a webcam as it was impossible from the start. To get a webcam on the site would have needed an internet connection, a PC and power all located in a dry location with good panning around the site. However none of that exists on site. The only other option is to look off site at higher buildings close to the perimiter, as at Chesterfield, but that isn't the case for us.

Personally I think the photos are much better and more thought-provoking than any static webcam ever could be.

Very dissappointing in my opinion. I was under the same impression as RRW that the stand would be similar in size to the North Stand but reduced in capacity because of the "gaps" (for want of a better word) to get through to the catering facilities underneath the stand. Obviously this has been cut back along with not having a roof on the new north stand.

It is going to be similar to the burton home end really isnt it- which was pretty poor to be honest. We couldnt really hear them making much noise from it and it didnt have much presence as a home end. Id imagine, being so low down, that it will have poor views as many will have to watch the game through the netting too.

Lovely nice new facilities for the corporate people and the main standers but feel pretty short changed with the new home end really - just a smaller stand with the same facilities. On the subject of admission prices, I wouldnt expect to be paying more for that!