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Thought I was watching the highlights of a basketball game 'til I realised it was Thierry Henry deftly controlling the ball before chipping in the cross for the winning goal against Ireland last night!

blatant!

Disgraceful

Hand of Frog more like.

Always disliked him, think he's a thunderc**t now.

Within a minute I had five texts from fellow Spurs fans... needless to say I can't repeat them here.

not only did he handball it but he also controled the ball should never have been allowed

Has anyone heard Robbie Keane's comments from after the game, He said that Platini will be on the phone to Blatter laughing, I think the game should be replayed, the result was completely unfair on the irish and the manner of their defeat was disgraceful.

I cant see why anyone is surprised. Its just like in the Premiership where the big clubs get more big descisions in their favour than the smaller clubs. Cant say i'm bothered really, i'm not too fussed about how England get on in the World Cup so i'm not going to lose any sleep over whether the paddies or frogs qualified

The powers to be will want France at the world cup so it is no supprise.

Not quite sure where people are going with this.

Are we hinting there was some conspiracy?

Henry cheated, true. But the ref was otherwise excellent (I thought he 'could' have given France a penalty when Anelka went down) and was on the blind side for this incident, the assistant had a blocked view of the incident.

Under what circumstances could the match be replayed?

The only question, I suppose, is why the play-offs were seeded but group qualifiers are so once you've established the principle that you want the best teams at the World Cup, seeding play-offs is a natural progression.

shrimper wrote:
The only question, I suppose, is why the play-offs were seeded but group qualifiers are so once you've established the principle that you want the best teams at the World Cup, seeding play-offs is a natural progression.

Seeding the play-offs is unfair though, as the seeded teams already had an advantage by being seeded in the group. Personally, I think it devalues the competition if the rules are bent to ensure the big teams qualify - it should be merit, not reputation.

The next thing will be for teams like England, France, Brazil, Argentina to get automatic qualification to keep the sponsors happy.

A farce, but a farce by a refereeing mistake rather than a global conspiracy (IMO).

Yes it was a bad way to lose, but on the other hand the Irish should have/could have had the game won before it went into extra time, inept finishing (of which we know about ) cost them in the end.

campdave wrote:

shrimper wrote:
The only question, I suppose, is why the play-offs were seeded but group qualifiers are so once you've established the principle that you want the best teams at the World Cup, seeding play-offs is a natural progression.

Seeding the play-offs is unfair though, as the seeded teams already had an advantage by being seeded in the group. Personally, I think it devalues the competition if the rules are bent to ensure the big teams qualify - it should be merit, not reputation.
(IMO).

I don't necessarily disagree, I suppose it's a question of where the 'should seed, shouldn't seed' debate starts and finishes.

this is why i think there should be trial by TV after games to discourage this sort of behaviour


like id have banned Maradona from the rest of the 1986 world cup in Mexico with his hand of god



Henry should be punished and banned for the next at least 8 games for France, thus missing the World Cup, he's denied Ireland of playing in

Allez les bleus
J'ai dit allez les blues
Allez, allez, allez les blues.

It wunt be the same without 'em.

If we are honest, Ireland only have themselves to blame for those misses that would have won them the game in normal time. Robbie Keane thought he was back playing for a big club again and missed a one-on-one that a school kid would have put away. They'll never have a better chance, France were awful yet despite the handball would still have facied themselves at penalties.

I'm glad Ireland have gone out, the BBC and the Britsih press are giving this far too much coverage. We have all been spared the likes of Jack Charlton, Mick McCarthy, Andy Townsend, Tony Cascarino, Clinton Morrison etc ramming down our throats just how brilliant it is to be Irish and what a footballing hotbed Ireland is. If it happened to us, they'd all be pissing themselves. Hooray Henry!

RedRedWine wrote:If we are honest, Ireland only have themselves to blame for those misses that would have won them the game in normal time. Robbie Keane thought he was back playing for a big club again and missed a one-on-one that a school kid would have put away. They'll never have a better chance, France were awful yet despite the handball would still have facied themselves at penalties.

Okay, I'll bite

Barclays Premier League : Table
Wednesday, 18 November 2009 10:15 UK
| Home | Away
Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS
1 Chelsea 12 6 0 0 16 1 4 0 2 13 7 21 30
2 Arsenal 11 5 0 0 20 4 3 1 2 16 10 22 25
3 Man Utd 12 5 1 0 13 7 3 0 3 10 5 11 25
4 Tottenham 12 4 0 2 12 6 3 1 2 11 11 6 22
5 Aston Villa 12 4 1 1 12 5 2 2 2 8 7 8 21
6 Man City 11 3 2 0 13 8 2 3 1 8 6 7 20
7 Liverpool 12 4 1 1 19 6 2 0 4 8 12 9 19
8 Sunderland 12 4 1 1 15 9 1 1 4 5 10 1 17
9 Stoke 12 3 1 2 8 7 1 3 2 4 8 -3 16

I assume you're referring to Inter Milan, then?



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Anyway......... 37-1 to Thierry 'I'm sorry, woops too late' Henry.

shrimper wrote:
Barclays Premier League : Table
Wednesday, 18 November 2009 10:15 UK
| Home | Away
Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS
1 Chelsea 12 6 0 0 16 1 4 0 2 13 7 21 30
2 Arsenal 11 5 0 0 20 4 3 1 2 16 10 22 25
3 Man Utd 12 5 1 0 13 7 3 0 3 10 5 11 25
4 Tottenham 12 4 0 2 12 6 3 1 2 11 11 6 22

Ohh now you're interested in the Premiership top four?

DawZi wrote:this is why i think there should be trial by TV after games to discourage this sort of behaviour

like id have banned Maradona from the rest of the 1986 world cup in Mexico with his hand of god

Henry should be punished and banned for the next at least 8 games for France, thus missing the World Cup, he's denied Ireland of playing in

What about recently, when our own players dive for a penalty, were you hoping we'd miss it

It's a shame that game was remembered for that Maradona goal, rather than that Maradona goal, possibly the best ever World Cup goal.

Keith wrote:It's a shame that game was remembered for that Maradona goal, rather than that Maradona goal, possibly the best ever World Cup goal.

I still blame Peter Reid for that goal. He should have brought the dego down on the half way line when he had the chance.

It also should be remembered that Lineker missed an absolute sitter in the dying moments of the game which would have taken it into extra time

Keith wrote:

DawZi wrote:this is why i think there should be trial by TV after games to discourage this sort of behaviour

like id have banned Maradona from the rest of the 1986 world cup in Mexico with his hand of god

Henry should be punished and banned for the next at least 8 games for France, thus missing the World Cup, he's denied Ireland of playing in

What about recently, when our own players dive for a penalty, were you hoping we'd miss it

It's a shame that game was remembered for that Maradona goal, rather than that Maradona goal, possibly the best ever World Cup goal.

yeah absolutely our players aswell now


my old fella use to slag our players off and slag football off after being a Leeds United fan born n bread saying there's to many cheats and football as been ruined by greed and money and id be like ZZZzzzzZZZZzzz

then id say in defence it's the foreigners what started it like the South American teams and Italy in the 1960s


and say that England was one of the last strong holds for fair play untill the the mid 1990s but our teams and players and been conned that many times and been denied success at international and club level that many are players have had to resort to it, and i just call getting street wise back"


then my old fella would say well id rather not win a world cup if it meant cheating to win it, i then would say well i would and its up to the powers that be above to take the moral high ground and stop it..

they now have chance with Henry, FIFA are suppose to be all up for fair play ?

DawZi wrote:they now have chance with Henry, FIFA are suppose to be all up for fair play ?

The FA Law 5 wrote:The decisions of the referee regarding facts connected with play are final.

The thing is, where does it end? Replay games if a player dives to get a penalty? Replay games if the winning goal comes from an off-side? I would happily ban him for cheating. A six match ban from competitive international football means he still doesn't go to the World Cup. Likewise, if a player is caught diving for a penalty, even if the penalty is missed, three match ban straight away. If a player is 'caught' diving, then stick with a yellow card.

Anybody else notice how quiet Michel Pratini has been? I wonder if it was the other way he would have said anything,