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Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:44 am
by Bryan
Thankfully the club haven't done a 'Grimsby' (is Alan Buckley going to be asked back for the fourth or fifth time?) and sacked Sammy after the appalling performance against Northampton. I'm still all in favour of consitancy at clubs but you feel that even Morecambe FC have a tipping point as regards results and league table places.

Next two games are massive for Sammy and will define the season. Of that i've no doubt. Sadly managers are judged on results and they haven't been good enough at this club, even if performances have. Having said that we've got to stick together and make some noise on Saturday (get the bloody drum going again) and if we win it will be a huge day for everyone who loves this club.

I think most people are sensible and realise what McIlroy has done for Morecambe FC. I think Panther and Roache will be massive for us when they get back and i for one will at least wait for that before going off the deep end if results still aren't up to scratch. So i'll be behind Sammy and the players on Saturday but will be expecting more consitancy in team selection (why have we been playing Artell when he's been injured?).

Time to freshen things up i'm afraid. Time to try fit younger players when others are struggling for form or are injured. Time to maybe actually play players in their right positions. And maybe time to drop underperforming players (you can make your own minds up on that one) and send a message out that complacent performances just aren't acceptable e.g. Northampton.

I know injuries have been a factor but Sammy promised us competition for places - well lets at least see some (McStay, Stanley, Moss, Parrish, Curtis, Taylor and biggest crime of all Twiss kicking their heels on a Saturday) . This isn't some 'old boys club' for Sammy and his mates.

I'm sure McIlroy can turn it round. We haven't had the best of luck. But sometimes you've got to make your own luck. Team selection and subs are part of that process.

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:01 pm
by parkyboy
Best post of the week

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:59 pm
by alwaysright
I'll put money on it that Adams keeps his place ???

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:34 pm
by ezz
I'll put my money on you moaning about it

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:51 pm
by Posh
Bryan wrote:I know injuries have been a factor but Sammy promised us competition for places - well lets at least see some (McStay, Stanley, Moss, Parrish, Curtis, Taylor and biggest crime of all Twiss kicking their heels on a Saturday) .


Is Twissy the biggest crime of all? There was one player who was outstanding in the second half of last season, created havoc on his side of the pitch and created what we need - goals - and you haven't even mentioned him.

Neil Wainwright.

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:00 pm
by marky No.1
Posh wrote:
Bryan wrote:I know injuries have been a factor but Sammy promised us competition for places - well lets at least see some (McStay, Stanley, Moss, Parrish, Curtis, Taylor and biggest crime of all Twiss kicking their heels on a Saturday) .


Is Twissy the biggest crime of all? There was one player who was outstanding in the second half of last season, created havoc on his side of the pitch and created what we need - goals - and you haven't even mentioned him.

Neil Wainwright.


Yep now he is back from Loan I would be happy to see Larry flying up the left and Neil on the right. Our forwards could'nt fail to score. Pin 'em back in their own half that's our best form of defence! :D

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:02 pm
by George Dawes
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alwaysright wrote:I'll put money on it that Adams keeps his place ???


ezz wrote:I'll put my money on you moaning about it




well if he makes mistakes what lead to goals and ultimately defeat, when there's fitter players on the bench with ability to run faster and jump higher to head a balls, what do you expect :?

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:20 pm
by ockers
Posh wrote:
Bryan wrote:I know injuries have been a factor but Sammy promised us competition for places - well lets at least see some (McStay, Stanley, Moss, Parrish, Curtis, Taylor and biggest crime of all Twiss kicking their heels on a Saturday) .


Is Twissy the biggest crime of all? There was one player who was outstanding in the second half of last season, created havoc on his side of the pitch and created what we need - goals - and you haven't even mentioned him.

Neil Wainwright.


perhaps we will all get the chance to see him again tomorrow.... ;)

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:36 pm
by ezz
DawZi wrote:]
alwaysright wrote:I'll put money on it that Adams keeps his place ???


ezz wrote:I'll put my money on you moaning about it




well if he makes mistakes what lead to goals and ultimately defeat, when there's fitter players on the bench with ability to run faster and jump higher to head a balls, what do you expect :?


And if he plays well we win and he sets up the winner he'l still moan

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:28 pm
by HALMA 1983
We need to be at em from the off and pressing even more should we find ourselves going infront early doors, no more sitting back trying to defend a lead and definately no more Sammy sitting down if we go behind ;)

Let's all do our bit to make sure of the points tomorrow :D

p.s Don't upset Rene too much :lol:

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:29 pm
by alwaysright
ezz,
iv finally realised what a knob you are, your always the first to have a go at anyone that doesnt tow the line, Adams is to blame for more goals being scored against us than anyone else, dont know if you have noticed but there are far more than me who have a lot more negative stuff to say about him.

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:47 pm
by ezz
alwaysright wrote:ezz,
iv finally realised what a knob you are, your always the first to have a go at anyone that doesnt tow the line, Adams is to blame for more goals being scored against us than anyone else, dont know if you have noticed but there are far more than me who have a lot more negative stuff to say about him.


There's no reason to bring foul language onto our nice public forum, thats just bad form.
I'd like you to find me a quote said by me having a go at any player who hasn't 'towed the line'. Ironically you may find one or too stating my own displeasure at seeing Adams in the team dating back from about 2yrs ago to present.
You seem to like playing the role of 'devil's advocate' and I dont actually see you as a serious poster to care much about what you say, hence my sarcastic remarks to posts which obviously annoys you, but then again your reaction is just, as your 'alwaysright' ;)

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:03 pm
by alwaysright
Oh ezz stop it now, and i meant any one that posts on here that does not tow the line you have a go at

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm
by campdave
Shame there've been so many insults in the last week. Devalues people's opinions if they can't be delivered without insulting the person you're arguing with.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:36 pm
by George Dawes
alwaysright wrote:Oh ezz stop it now, and i meant any one that posts on here that does not tow the line you have a go at



you loose your argument as soon as you "call people names " but like Ive said before its blasphemy to insult Adams on here, despite the obvious reasons :?

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:38 pm
by ezz
If you'll have been reading the last few weeks I've disagreed with people's views about replaceing the manager, no personal insults involved. I have argued my point and challeneged others who think differently by asking them to justify why, some have, some havn't.
Throw a few random comment posts in there and thats me 8-)

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:44 pm
by shrimpnsave
ezz wrote:If you'll have been reading the last few weeks I've disagreed with people's views about replaceing the manager, no personal insults involved. I have argued my point and challeneged others who think differently by asking them to justify why, some have, some havn't.
Throw a few random comment posts in there and thats me 8-)


alwaysright and ezz are one of the same

dats why u cant see eye to eye :lol: :lol:

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:08 pm
by ezz
I cant see his eyes

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:15 pm
by seasonsinthesun
Well, if and it's a big IF he has 90 minutes to save his job, then Sammy should play Curtis,Parrish, McStay, Wainwright and Twiss from the start with Craney coming off the bench in the second half, but not on 87 minutes please, more like 55-60.
But that may be too radical and it will be the same old...same old again. :(

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:18 pm
by shrimpnsave
ezz wrote:I cant see his eyes


look to the left and look to the right...............

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:43 pm
by ezz
I think he'll stick with his same old same old, I agree wit the substitutions some need to be made early to go for the win. Think shrimper or ockers mentioned in another thread that we must have the least effective bench in the league, i.e we never really have anyone to bring on and win it for us. Maybe giving Crane the last half hour or 20mins could have that effect.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:02 am
by james456
4-1 win tommorow.

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:09 am
by alwaysright
We now have a chance to open a bit of a gap between us and the bottom 2 if we can get a win against Lincoln, big incentive there to play for now

Re: Sadly, a manager is judged on one criteria - results

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:28 am
by Stanley Bowles
Time to make that North terrace rock ,the 3rd man will bring 3 points to the Shrimps by 1650 tomorrow SAMMY MACS BARMY ARMY , COME ON YOU SHRIMPS. :D :D :D