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apart from the predictable from Ned, as he comes on to gloat about how 'told you so', what happens next? An important game on Tuesday evening now, what will we do? How did we turn it around after Christmas last season? More to the point, can we do that again this season without waiting until Christmas? Ten conceded in two games should make it clear where the problem is, yet this is where we all thought we'd strengthened?

Duffy needs his backside kicking after getting himself sent off when the game was already lost. Three matches without him now.

We could start by allowing players to get used to certain positions. 3 games played and we've had a different team and formation in each. Duffy going and getting himself a 3 match ban has further complicated matters. Still, I do find our defensive problems a little puzzling, given our squad is jam packed with them! 5 defenders started today's game. A further 3 central defenders were on the bench and Parrish didn't even get in the 18. If anything, Sammy's left us very short on numbers in the striking department. A squad which boasts 9 defenders should not be conceding 12 goals in 3 games which leads me to wonder if there's a serious flaw in the coaching...

This should be the team without change win or lose and let them settle.

Roche
Moss McStay Haining Wilson

Curtis(no duffy) Stanley Drummy Twiss

Craney
Jevons

Keith wrote:Duffy needs his backside kicking...

Mind you, after today we'd struggle to find anyone who could deliver a decent kick to his arse!

Keith wrote:

Keith wrote:Duffy needs his backside kicking...

Mind you, after today we'd struggle to find anyone who could deliver a decent kick to his arse!

Ezz you think McStay and Haining are better than both Bentley and Adams then, dont think your team will be proven as i would be amazed if Sammy would drop both Jimbo and Adams after one bad game, remember this is the first time this defence have played together so like everything some things take a little time to adapt

Well he's not going to drop his best mate Adams is he......

...one thing Sammy will NOT do is to drop Adams despite him being the slowest player in the team.

Actual credit to Sammy he's on radio saying that he was embarrassed. He's had enough. He takes responsibility. The players need to look at themselves. Set pieces are a problem but it's a unit problem. Not a lot on the bench for him to do much. He's absolutely furious, never heard him like that ever1 i'd hate to be in that coach coming back or in the dressing room.

All credit to him for coming onto the radio.

Possible replacement quickly for Fraser.

im logging off now before cc calls for the return of 'the boss'

Next 2 games are Barnet and Macclesfield. Two other teams with only a point after 2 games. We need to be picking up some points here to get our season going.

Yes the defensive situation is very puzzling given we were fairly miserly towards the end of last season and you would think the new signings would have strengthened us in that department.
Could well be down to the fact that even in 3 games there has been a lot of chopping and changing. Now Jimbo is back I think Sammy needs to pick a backline and let them settle.

Christies Child wrote:...one thing Sammy will NOT do is to drop Adams despite him being the slowest player in the team.

Actual credit to Sammy he's on radio saying that he was embarrassed. He's had enough. He takes responsibility. The players need to look at themselves. Set pieces are a problem but it's a unit problem. Not a lot on the bench for him to do much. He's absolutely furious, never heard him like that ever1 i'd hate to be in that coach coming back or in the dressing room.

All credit to him for coming onto the radio.

Possible replacement quickly for Fraser.

We've got a big enough squad!

al1 wrote:im logging off now before cc calls for the return of 'the boss'

No way.

sammy has proved he can do it. He's got to now do it again. No shouts of 'out' or whatever from me.

We're getting over run in midfield by the sounds of things, something Hunter and McLachlan seemed to be useful in breaking up opposition moves, despite both being derided by a lot of posted on this forum.

campdave wrote:We're getting over run in midfield by the sounds of things, something Hunter and McLachlan seemed to be useful in breaking up opposition moves, despite both being derided by a lot of posted on this forum.

Neither is good enough and McLatchlan is out for the season anyway.

Mark Hudson who trialled for us looked good in the McLatchlan position and he was released by Blackpool so lets hope Sammy can snap him up.

I think that is our best option, Haining and McStay both have pace

ezz wrote:This should be the team without change win or lose and let them settle.

Roche
Moss McStay Haining Wilson

Curtis(no duffy) Stanley Drummy Twiss

Craney
Jevons

I went to day its the midfield where there is a problem stanley had his worse ever game in a morecambe shirt twiss hit crossbar and post if they went in what a different game it could have been have faith in sammy

Ockers remarked on Player that Stanners seemed to be loosing concentration.

In the chat room I made the comment about Stanners sugar levels possibly being all over the place. I understand that Stanners is a diabetic which if his sugar levels were affected could explain his concentration lapses.

So do you want people to take sugar, as well as water to training sessions, and do you think it is ok to talk about players medical conditions on the board

mrpotatohead wrote:So do you want people to take sugar, as well as water to training sessions, and do you think it is ok to talk about players medical conditions on the board

Yes why not? If it has a bearing on results, why shouldn't we talk about medical conditions?

Next step will be the training pitch and i am sure that Sammy and Mark will certainly hammer a few home truths at them. Then we regroup for our next game on Tuesday. Siege mentality is required amongst the players and what odds Barnet get a hammering. Its early days yet but we dont want to start lagging behind other teams, a couple of wins and i am sure everything will start to look rosey in the garden once again

Christies Child wrote:Ockers remarked on Player that Stanners seemed to be loosing concentration.

In the chat room I made the comment about Stanners sugar levels possibly being all over the place. I understand that Stanners is a diabetic which if his sugar levels were affected could explain his concentration lapses.

i dont think it had anything to do with that neil imho
not one of his better games to be honest
i wouldnt start second guessing medical conditions like that
pure and simple at fault for goal five and ive just seen him play far far better
for example our opening game when he came on...........

i just think its simples...... we need a holiding player to break up the opposition attacks and not get hysteircal or hissy about certain players in th eback line
however again imho i do think we have a great squad and one thats capable of playing a more direct system of four at the back and pursue it
but we need cover and a strong midfield 3
id like to see 4 1 3 2 and based onwos likely to be available

-----------roche
moss bentley haining adams
----------mcstay---------
---craney drummond wilson
-------jevons twiss--------

give it a try perhaps and have stanners and wainers to come on second half
worth a try

well that was the jist of our discussion on the drive home
its a bad day no excuses but you know we all know on paper we have a great squad
hope you can tune in on tuesday night on player


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Jolly rog branch wrote:Ezz you think McStay and Haining are better than both Bentley and Adams then, dont think your team will be proven as i would be amazed if Sammy would drop both Jimbo and Adams after one bad game, remember this is the first time this defence have played together so like everything some things take a little time to adapt

I've never been a fan of Adams some fans rate him others dont, im one of the latter. I think Jimbo has been out too long and should be slowly re-introduced to such an important position and also as captain. I also think in the long term McStay and Haining are our two centerbacks both are decent in the air and both have decent pace. I'd use Jimob in specific matches where the opposition have a huge aerial threat and other matches leave him out where teams break with pace.

On another note looking at other replies, Hunter may be the fresh legs to run around and break up play.....basically just being a pain in the arse to the opposition. Seems we need that extra energy in the middle of the park a job that is very under-appreciated by our own fans.

Heysham_Shrimp wrote:

Neither is good enough and McLatchlan is out for the season anyway.

They were good enough on the long unbeaten run last season.

heysham shrimp has a continuous problem with garry and he hasnt played yet this season

Jolly rog branch wrote:Ezz you think McStay and Haining are better than both Bentley and Adams then, dont think your team will be proven as i would be amazed if Sammy would drop both Jimbo and Adams after one bad game, remember this is the first time this defence have played together so like everything some things take a little time to adapt

adams has been terrible for all 3 games we played this season, he looked alright against hereford but against preston and Burton he was shocking he deserves to be dropped...