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Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:16 am
by Christies Child
4 headed goals from crosses
PNE corners all onto the edge of the 8 yard box and the ball attacked by PNE players. In contrast our corners lacked quality in delivery
PNE given too much space especially from the short corner for their second scored by header from smallest payer on the pitch
PNE wingers given freedom of Deepdale too often
At least we didn't resort to fouls only 6 given in the entire game. The first on 25th minute by either team.
MFC goal attempts 13 7 on target 6 off PNE 22 17 on 5 off
If only our penalty had gone in......a case of 'what if'
Still proud of our lads. PNE revenge match for them and creidt due to their attitude. Compliments on radio from their manager about our play. Insisted prior to the game that his players gave us due respect.
Re: Carling Cup TV replay observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:20 am
by P/T Indie
[quote="Christies Child"]4 headers from crosses
PNE corners all onto the edge of the 8 yard box and the ball attacked by PNE players
PNE given too much space especially from the short corner for their second scored by header from smallest payer on the pitch
PNE wingers given freedom of Deepdale too often
Yes any team doing their homework this years just needs to realise to run at pace at our full backs and then whip a cross in.
I just hope we go back to the 5 at the back on Saturday.
Re: Carling Cup TV replay observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:24 am
by Christies Child
[quote="P/T Indie"][quote="Christies Child"]4 headers from crosses
PNE corners all onto the edge of the 8 yard box and the ball attacked by PNE players
PNE given too much space especially from the short corner for their second scored by header from smallest payer on the pitch
PNE wingers given freedom of Deepdale too often
Yes any team doing their homework this years just needs to realise to run at pace at our full backs and then whip a cross in.
I just hope we go back to the 5 at the back on Saturday.[/quote]
Personally, that's the easy option. For me we stick to 3 5 2 and go for 3 points by playing positive football. Attack from off and create problems for them rather than trying to stop them creating problems by being defensive
Re: Carling Cup TV replay observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:44 am
by parceldave
Christies Child wrote:P/T Indie wrote:Christies Child wrote:4 headers from crosses
PNE corners all onto the edge of the 8 yard box and the ball attacked by PNE players
PNE given too much space especially from the short corner for their second scored by header from smallest payer on the pitch
PNE wingers given freedom of Deepdale too often
Yes any team doing their homework this years just needs to realise to run at pace at our full backs and then whip a cross in.
I just hope we go back to the 5 at the back on Saturday.[/quote]
Personally, that's the easy option. For me we stick to 3 5 2 and go for 3 points by playing positive football. Attack from off and create problems for them rather than trying to stop them creating problems by being defensive
You can still play positive attacking football with 4-4-2 formation

. 5 at back is far too defensive

. Agreed

Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:53 am
by P/T Indie
But with 4-4-2 we will get overun for fun especially at full back and midfield we just don't have the players to do it.
At times last night it was nearly a 6 at the back

as Duffy and Wilson were having to drop so deep.
Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:39 am
by parceldave
P/T Indie wrote:But with 4-4-2 we will get overun for fun especially at full back and midfield we just don't have the players to do it.
At times last night it was nearly a 6 at the back

as Duffy and Wilson were having to drop so deep.
Moss ................ Haining..........Bentley .............Wilson .
Im sure this back 4 is capable of keeping most teams at bay in League 2.

Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:45 am
by Christies Child
parceldave wrote:P/T Indie wrote:But with 4-4-2 we will get overun for fun especially at full back and midfield we just don't have the players to do it.
At times last night it was nearly a 6 at the back

as Duffy and Wilson were having to drop so deep.
Moss ................ Haining..........Bentley .............Wilson .
Im sure this back 4 is capable of keeping most teams at bay in League 2.

Wouldn't disagree with that. Sammy however will remain loyal to Danny which is creditable but time catches up with everybody sooner or later. If he persists in playing him then the centre of defence (sweepers role?) where he doesn't have to keep up with speedy wingers may be a get out.
Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:53 am
by P/T Indie
parceldave wrote:P/T Indie wrote:But with 4-4-2 we will get overun for fun especially at full back and midfield we just don't have the players to do it.
At times last night it was nearly a 6 at the back

as Duffy and Wilson were having to drop so deep.
Moss ................ Haining..........Bentley .............Wilson .
Im sure this back 4 is capable of keeping most teams at bay in League 2.

If Jimbo is back I would agree with that but if Jimbo isn't we will have to stay with the 5.
Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:22 am
by Mark Gwent
we played very well last night if only that pen had gone in. every morecambe fan can be proud of their team.we wont be coming up against teams like preston in our league 3 pts on saturday come on morecambe everybody get to burton and support sammy and the team
Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:26 am
by eggchaser
a few things i picked up on last night aswell as the bad defending from crosses and corners was that opposition players are given way too much time in the space between the midfield and the defence and they can confortably pick a pass, we had the same problem against hereford for their first goal, Danny adams looked tired about half an hour into the game and I know its been said a million times but he's definately too slow to play in the full back position and he was backing off tackles and leaving the ball for others to chase, once I heard the team sheet i was never really expecting a win with jevons injured we didnt have the cutting edge upfront that we needed, the first 20 mins were good and then we won the penalty but there was a few times when craney got the ball in the PNE area and choked I have a feeling that if jevons was playing we would've atleast scored 2 maybe 3 but It wasnt to be... still proud of the lads they never gave up and kept going right to minute 90 on the plus side duffy looked threatening and Haining looked composed with the ball and some of his defending was top quality all in all a decent performance but in the end the better team won. Now we can concentrate on the league!
Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:41 am
by parceldave
Mark Gwent wrote:we played very well last night if only that pen had gone in. every morecambe fan can be proud of their team.we wont be coming up against teams like preston in our league 3 pts on saturday come on morecambe everybody get to burton and support sammy and the team
Lets hope as time goes on that we can improve on last nights performance, as there will come a time i.e the F.A. Cup when we will have to play higher league opposition and take every little chance that comes our way. That penalty could have made all the differance last night . who knows .

Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:13 pm
by marky No.1
eggchaser wrote: Now we can concentrate on the league!
Yeah till the JPT draw on Saturday morning

Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:27 pm
by heysham_mfc
marky No.1 wrote:eggchaser wrote: Now we can concentrate on the league!
Yeah till the JPT draw on Saturday morning

but we will all miss it because we will be on the M6
Re: Carling Cup observations

Posted:
Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:35 pm
by George Dawes
4-3-3 reverting to 4-5-1 when needed
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Moss---Bentley---Haining --Wilson
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---Stanley--Drummond--Craney---
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----Duffy------Jovens-----Twiss----