Shrimpsvoices

With no positive news to date about the signing of a striker, but it would appear a number of set backs concerning the non appearance of verbally agreed signings, I have to ask myself ' why are we apparently unable to secure the signatures of targeted players (Moss excluded)?'

Is it because we are not prepared to meet some of the inflated wage demands asked; is it a geographical proble; or is it a combination of the two?

Nearly all clubs are cutting back on playing budgets, so we are not bucking a trend there.

Having worked in both the Manchester and Liverpool areas, there might be a feeling that the motorway journey in a morning is bumper to bumper. In reality if travelling North it's the complete opposite. Travelling South and yes it's a pain in the backside.

Whatever the reasons maybe let's hope that the present apparent stalling by potential signings will come to a speedy conclusion...sooner rather than later.

is concerning when you consider all the free agents about. makes you wonder what is going on

DawZi wrote:is concerning when you consider all the free agents about. makes you wonder what is going on

A) We want strikers.
B) We want good strikers.
C) Good strikers who are free agents are few and far between.
D) Good strikers who are free agents will, because they are few and far between, have more than one club chasing them.
E) Some of those clubs may be nearer to the player's home base than we are.

But we ARE talking to a couple of players and, if we can strike a deal that's better than others being offered to them, they'll come.

If we can't attract those players then, I suppose, we'll try to get a couple of long loans in - but we won't look to do that until we've exhausted Sammy's hitlist.

According to some people that post on this site there would be a huge choice of potential players to choose from come the end of june, i wonder where they are ?????

Money or geography, probably both plus its the way players perceive the capabilities of a club, we will be seen as a small club who have done well to finish mid table, it will take some time before we will be seen as a established league two side rather than a non league side who is over achieving, players will usually opt for a so called bigger club who they believe has a better chance of success.

So far this close season has gone just like i expected with Sammy not getting his first or even second choice targets, there's a lot of competition out there for the better players, its a very difficult job that Sammy has trying to persuade his targets to come here.

As supporters we just have to be patient and accept the situation, possibly when we move to the new stadium it might make a difference.

It will make a big difference, i will have to turn left at the shrimp roundabout

Abbo wrote:According to some people that post on this site there would be a huge choice of potential players to choose from come the end of june, i wonder where they are ?????

Some people don't know their arse from their elbow though.

hahaha

Somewhere in the region of about 200-300 players are free agents every summer. But it's not just a numbers game. The player (his position, wage demands, character and family circumstances inluded) need to right for the club and visa versa. Act in haste repent at leisure when it comes to signing players. If we haven't learned that one by now we ever will. If Sammy can't sign the right players, I'd rather he didn't sign anybody.Like Glen says, the loan market is always there if we cant get who we want long term.

This is all about patience.

Reading this board everyone has started to panic.

Imagine being a player whos contract ended in June, not too bothered at minute as got paid a week ago so can hold out for good salary (which most are unlikely to get). July mortgage payment will focus the mind and a lot will be prepared to take a lower wage as they need the signing on fee. Best deals financially will be done last week in July.

Harsh but a reality of life. Footballers are well paid but they will have financial commitments reflecting this.

feelingguilty wrote:This is all about patience.

Reading this board everyone has started to panic.

Imagine being a player whos contract ended in June, not too bothered at minute as got paid a week ago so can hold out for good salary (which most are unlikely to get). July mortgage payment will focus the mind and a lot will be prepared to take a lower wage as they need the signing on fee. Best deals financially will be done last week in July.

Harsh but a reality of life. Footballers are well paid but they will have financial commitments reflecting this.

Burnley have just signed a striker for £3 million who has received a £250,000 signing on fee. 50% of which he has donated to his former clubs youth development policy. A magnificant gesture in my view.

Its not a case of panicking, its imperative that the team get a good start to to the season with a few wins and i think we need to get the new players in asap in order for them to get some hard training in, to gel with the other players, after all its only 4-5 weeks to the start of the most important season in the clubs history

If it was about geography, then the likes of Carlisle, Hartlepool, Darlington and a few others are in the same boat as us.

Perhaps we're missing a trick and should go for players from further North, rather than the other way round. Then again, there hasn't been much luck on that front has there? When you consider the likes of Sean O'Connor and Ryan McCann, and I'm sure people can remember others.

there are some good strikers out there its just a case of finding the right player for the right club I am sure Sammy will get somebody in in the end

*Get somebody in in the end* now that smacks of desperation.

steve mfc wrote:Money or geography, probably both plus its the way players perceive the capabilities of a club, we will be seen as a small club who have done well to finish mid table, it will take some time before we will be seen as a established league two side rather than a non league side who is over achieving, players will usually opt for a so called bigger club who they believe has a better chance of success.

Of course it could be seen that Morecambe is an exceptional place to get good coaching, get to play regular first team football and like Baker, Perkins, Thompson, Lewis and Carlton to progress your career.

Christies Child wrote:Is it because we are not prepared to meet some of the inflated wage demands asked; is it a geographical proble; or is it a combination of the two?

I think the facts should speak for themselves. To my knowledge we've so far missed out on three strikers.

1. Michael Gash. Offered our limit, which was turned down by their unusual setup. So money but according to their fans they wished they'd taken it now.

2. Gareth Evans. Money, no problem. Location, no problem. Bradford beat us on the basis of a simple like-for-like choice.

3. Curtis Allen. Stayed at home to be near his mammy.

So only 33% was due to one of CC's choices.

we should sign Jason Scotland
'I though Swansea was in England I was shocked when I found out that it was in Wales'

Posh wrote:

Christies Child wrote:Is it because we are not prepared to meet some of the inflated wage demands asked; is it a geographical proble; or is it a combination of the two?

I think the facts should speak for themselves. To my knowledge we've so far missed out on three strikers.

1. Michael Gash. Offered our limit, which was turned down by their unusual setup. So money but according to their fans they wished they'd taken it now.

2. Gareth Evans. Money, no problem. Location, no problem. Bradford beat us on the basis of a simple like-for-like choice.

3. Curtis Allen. Stayed at home to be near his mammy.

So only 33% was due to one of CC's choices.

66%

heysham_mfc wrote:we should sign Jason Scotland
'I though Swansea was in England I was shocked when I found out that it was in Wales'

He's very much out of our League (or even 3 Leagues!) Swansea have already turned down £1M

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... r_scotland

Aye... but I think he meant that 'geography' wouldn't be an issue with him, such is his (lack of) grasp of the subject.

we will end up with a couple of donkeys , like last year.

Harry wrote:

Posh wrote:

Christies Child wrote:Is it because we are not prepared to meet some of the inflated wage demands asked; is it a geographical proble; or is it a combination of the two?

I think the facts should speak for themselves. To my knowledge we've so far missed out on three strikers.

1. Michael Gash. Offered our limit, which was turned down by their unusual setup. So money but according to their fans they wished they'd taken it now.

2. Gareth Evans. Money, no problem. Location, no problem. Bradford beat us on the basis of a simple like-for-like choice.

3. Curtis Allen. Stayed at home to be near his mammy.

So only 33% was due to one of CC's choices.

66%

On a rounding-up or nearest decimal basis it would of course be 67%. CC though said 'geography or money' and in Gash's case he might well have moved but didn't get the chance. Curtis Allen might well be geography but he did play at Bournemouth for two years, so I just think he's a big sissy wuffy puffy type for bottling another move.

So in summary 39.37%