Shrimpsvoices

only 1148 hours untill kick off at home to hereford

Just about time to learn how to spell, and know when to use upper-case.
Mind you I blame the BBC for the latter.

Peter wrote:Just about time to learn how to spell, and know when to use upper-case.

How very droll.

You're not supposed to use a comma after using "and". Maybe you could use the time to brush up on your grammar. Didn't they teach you anything in the navy?

campdave wrote:

Peter wrote:Just about time to learn how to spell, and know when to use upper-case.

You're not supposed to use a comma after using "and"

He didn't, he used "and" after the comma.

Bare Ben wrote:

campdave wrote:

Peter wrote:Just about time to learn how to spell, and know when to use upper-case.

You're not supposed to use a comma after using "and"

He didn't, he used "and" after the comma.

Slip of typing. Other way round then. If you use "and", you don't need a comma before it. Peter's still being a nasty little arrogant man, regardless of how inept my typing may be.

campdave wrote:Peter's still being a nasty little arrogant man, regardless of how inept my typing may be.

Am I fcuk.
It's another way of wasting time before kick-off .

Peter wrote:

campdave wrote:Peter's still being a nasty little arrogant man, regardless of how inept my typing may be.

Am I fcuk.

You got the "u" and the "c" the wrong way round.

Bare Ben wrote:You got the "u" and the "c" the wrong way round.

That's another 5 minutes.
Wait until Gnasher starts another thread on Local Politics

Peter wrote:

Bare Ben wrote:You got the "u" and the "c" the wrong way round.

That's another 5 minutes.
Wait until Gnasher starts another thread on Local Politics

I didn't start the last one, you'll have to ask a mod why they brought politics into a football forum

When I was at school, English grammar was very strict and rules such as not starting a sentence with "But" or "Because" as well as other things would mean a huge loss of marks.

It does seem that now, though, these rules are broken on a regular basis when you read published works. I think it's due to a number of things, one of which is the massive influx of Americanisms and Australianisms having come over with their TV programmes. It's not just grammar either. Things like Trick or Treat, SAT's, School Prom nights and other things were never seen in this country until relatively recently. And why do teenagers down south almost speak in a Pseudo Australian accent, especially when they end a sentence which almost sounds like it's a question?

Number 1 wrote: And why do teenagers down south almost speak in a Pseudo Australian accent, especially when they end a sentence which almost sounds like it's a question?

Que?

Number 1 wrote:When I was at school, English grammar was very strict and rules such as not starting a sentence with "But" or "Because" as well as other things would mean a huge loss of marks.

It does seem that now, though, these rules are broken on a regular basis when you read published works. I think it's due to a number of things, one of which is the massive influx of Americanisms and Australianisms having come over with their TV programmes. It's not just grammar either. Things like Trick or Treat, SAT's, School Prom nights and other things were never seen in this country until relatively recently. And why do teenagers down south almost speak in a Pseudo Australian accent, especially when they end a sentence which almost sounds like it's a question?

It is in some schools, the junior school my son attends are very strict on this point.

Number 1 wrote:When I was at school, English grammar was very strict and rules such as not starting a sentence with "But" or "Because" as well as other things would mean a huge loss of marks.

It does seem that now, though, these rules are broken on a regular basis when you read published works. I think it's due to a number of things, one of which is the massive influx of Americanisms and Australianisms having come over with their TV programmes. It's not just grammar either. Things like Trick or Treat, SAT's, School Prom nights and other things were never seen in this country until relatively recently. And why do teenagers down south almost speak in a Pseudo Australian accent, especially when they end a sentence which almost sounds like it's a question?

It's not a hard and fast rule - but knowing when it's appropriate is the key.

But for the influence of American TV, we wouldn't have such horrible phrases as 'bigging up' and 'back in the day' which now seem to be common parlance.

Because of such things as the internet and mobile phone text messages, we also now have a generation of youngsters who think it's okay to use words, abbreviations and phrases like 'my bad', 'prolly' (probably) and 'gr8' as if they are acceptable elsewhere.

(See what I did there?)

shrimper wrote:

Number 1 wrote:When I was at school, English grammar was very strict and rules such as not starting a sentence with "But" or "Because" as well as other things would mean a huge loss of marks.

It does seem that now, though, these rules are broken on a regular basis when you read published works. I think it's due to a number of things, one of which is the massive influx of Americanisms and Australianisms having come over with their TV programmes. It's not just grammar either. Things like Trick or Treat, SAT's, School Prom nights and other things were never seen in this country until relatively recently. And why do teenagers down south almost speak in a Pseudo Australian accent, especially when they end a sentence which almost sounds like it's a question?

It's not a hard and fast rule - but knowing when it's appropriate is the key.

But for the influence of American TV, we wouldn't have such horrible phrases as 'bigging up' and 'back in the day' which now seem to be common parlance.

Because of such things as the internet and mobile phone text messages, we also now have a generation of youngsters who think it's okay to use words, abbreviations and phrases like 'my bad', 'prolly' (probably) and 'gr8' as if they are acceptable elsewhere.

(See what I did there?)

I'm only 22 and I was always told not to start sentences with "but", "because", "and" & "however".

Not a bad piece of advice but, as I say, not a hard 'rule' as long as you know why the rule is there.
You shouldn't start sentences with the words you mention if those words are linking the new sentence with the previous one (*). Some of them are perfectly acceptable if starting a whole new, separate, point though - as in the examples above.

"However one looks at the current political situation, it cannot be denied......etc" would be fine, for another example.

*Nowadays 'and' (in particular) is frequently used to start sentences, particularly in the media where shorter sentences are the norm.

is it lunch time yet

Interestingly, I've just been writing to a couple of new clients (New clients? In todays economic climate? Whatever next......????) and I started a new para with the word 'However'.

Reading back it seems quite appropriate in the overall context of the piece.

'However' would be a perfectly reasonable word to use starting a sentence.

However hard I try, I cannot use apostrophie's in the correct place.

Mark S wrote:'However' would be a perfectly reasonable word to use starting a sentence.

However hard I try, I cannot use apostrophie's in the correct place.

.Never start a sentence with a full stop

(did you see what I did there?)

SirFredGoodwin wrote:.Never start a sentence with a full stop

(did you see what I did there?)

Yes you forgot the capital letter on did.

heysham_mfc wrote:

SirFredGoodwin wrote:.Never start a sentence with a full stop

(did you see what I did there?)

Yes you forgot the capital letter on did.

I think inverted commas were required for the "did" there.