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Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:06 am
by sgt major
As my learned friend Big Red Dog has said on another thread we have got to be a bit sensitive to Luton Town in their fight to stay up. I'm not suggesting our team lays down and lets them win but on the other hand us supporters must not take the Michael out of them.

All this points deduction is very well but it's the real and genuine fans that suffer and we would be gutted if it ever happened to us.

I personally think Luton have done very well to amass the points they have and on the whole their fans have taken the situation on the chin. They seem to travel away in big numbers but I think this will be their longest trip apart from perhaps Darlington so we should give them a warm Morecambe welcome.

As for us making the play off's - well on the big league weekend on Sky they dont really give us a hope and Peter Taylor at the Daggers v Brentford (abandoned game) said we have done well but wont make the play off's - let's attempt to prove them all wrong!! However I will be cheering on Wycombe on Saturday lunch when they take on Shreswbury on the Sky game.

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:40 am
by marky No.1
Agree with that. Gary Morecambe will be there. Will I be able to dress as Eric in the Sponsors Lounge :?: 8-)
ericm&s.JPG


Luton fans will have at least one eye on Wembley to which they have bought 37,000 tickets up to now :shock:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... rob-bagchi

With lots of "Scunthorpe" seats empty surely the F.A. should allocate more seating to Luton!

http://www.loyalluton.com/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=49

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:32 am
by shrimper
sgt major wrote:As my learned friend Big Red Dog has said on another thread we have got to be a bit sensitive to Luton Town in their fight to stay up. I'm not suggesting our team lays down and lets them win but on the other hand us supporters must not take the Michael out of them.

All this points deduction is very well but it's the real and genuine fans that suffer and we would be gutted if it ever happened to us.
so we should give them a warm Morecambe welcome.

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Well said Mick.

Apart from the occasional bit of genuinely humorous and original banter I NEVER see what's to be gained by having a go at opposition fans at our level. It just makes us sound thick IMO.

We're all just fans supporting our own team.

The "Small town in (somewhere near you that we have heard of)" chant being a typically pointless and unoriginal one.

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:04 pm
by Keith
shrimper wrote:The "Small town in (somewhere near you that we have heard of)" chant being a typically pointless and unoriginal one.


oh I don't know about that one! I've always taken that as being an ironic chant, usually based upon the fact that the 'town' we are singing it to are generally bigger than Morecambe in the first place!

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:28 pm
by World Cup Willie
Keith wrote:
shrimper wrote:The "Small town in (somewhere near you that we have heard of)" chant being a typically pointless and unoriginal one.


oh I don't know about that one! I've always taken that as being an ironic chant, usually based upon the fact that the 'town' we are singing it to are generally bigger than Morecambe in the first place!



..or "nowhere near the place at all" as in the chant at the Barnet game..."small town near Farnborough, you're just a small town near Farnborough". Maybe, "large town nowhere near Farnborough" would have been more apt!!!

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:38 pm
by sgt major
What about in respect of BOTH MORECAMBE and LUTON TOWN and of course our Eric we have a massive rendition of "Bring me sunshine" before the match that both teams fans can sing. Preferably as the teams come out onto the pitch.

Over to you Mark ;)

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:41 pm
by Mark S
Back to the original topic, I would agree that while I am sure they dont want our pity, it would be totally out of order to rub anyone's nose in a sorry situation. Great call Sgt Major.

While mathematically still possible to stay up, I would say that a wounded beast is a dangerous one. Add the points they have to the deduction and they are only 3 points different to us. Big game for both clubs on Saturday.

I am sure we will give them respect.

Bring me sunshine is a dead cert for Saturday (as always) ;)

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:48 pm
by BLS BOY
Probably going to sound really nasty but its a question that springs to mind here, knowing our sense of humour!

Are Luton supporters, in truth particularly bothered about what "entertainment" Saturday brings?

Do Luton have as much affection for Eric?

Having never been to Luton for any reason, nor in truth have i any intention, then why should we offer them a higher level of respect than, Bournemouth, or Rotherham for example.

Seems somewhat pointless to put on a carnival for a club in the shit!

Sorry if i do sound selfish, but i couldn't give a monkeys about these clubs who end up in admin, thats their own fault....i just hope we don't follow suit when we move grounds, as seems to be the norm with a lot of clubs over the last 3-4 yrs!

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:54 pm
by Crooky MFC
Mark S wrote:
Bring me sunshine is a dead cert for Saturday (as always) ;)


Along with 'Hey Jude' ? ;)

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:57 pm
by Martin
BLS BOY wrote:Probably going to sound really nasty but its a question that springs to mind here, knowing our sense of humour!

Are Luton supporters, in truth particularly bothered about what "entertainment" Saturday brings?

Do Luton have as much affection for Eric?

Having never been to Luton for any reason, nor in truth have i any intention, then why should we offer them a higher level of respect than, Bournemouth, or Rotherham for example.

Seems somewhat pointless to put on a carnival for a club in the shit!

Sorry if i do sound selfish, but i couldn't give a monkeys about these clubs who end up in admin, thats their own fault....i just hope we don't follow suit when we move grounds, as seems to be the norm with a lot of clubs over the last 3-4 yrs!


referring you to the original post:

sgt major wrote:All this points deduction is very well but it's the real and genuine fans that suffer and we would be gutted if it ever happened to us.


Whatever mess the club got itself into isn't the point. It's about respecting a set of fans who have braved the season but now face the reality of dropping to the Conference.

It's not their fault!

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:06 pm
by Mark S
I will play 'Hey Jude' no problem.

I have played it a few times and it hasnt really caught fire.

I would warn you though, you have to wait right to the end of a song about Julian Lennon's relationship with step mum Yoko Ono and that the 'Na na na' bit goes on for a very long time at the end of the song over and over again. But hey, if you lads are up for it, so am I ! ;)

Hey jude, dont make it bad.
Take a sad song and make it better.
Remember to let her into your heart,
Then you can start to make it better.

Hey jude, dont be afraid.
You were made to go out and get her.
The minute you let her under your skin,
Then you begin to make it better.

And anytime you feel the pain, hey jude, refrain,
Dont carry the world upon your shoulders.
For well you know that its a fool who plays it cool
By making his world a little colder.

Hey jude, dont let me down.
You have found her, now go and get her.
Remember to let her into your heart,
Then you can start to make it better.

So let it out and let it in, hey jude, begin,
Youre waiting for someone to perform with.
And dont you know that its just you, hey jude, youll do,
The movement you need is on your shoulder.

Hey jude, dont make it bad.
Take a sad song and make it better.
Remember to let her under your skin,
Then youll begin to make it
Better better better better better better, oh.

Na na na na na ,na na na, hey jude... x 20

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:10 pm
by sgt major
BLS BOY wrote:Probably going to sound really nasty but its a question that springs to mind here, knowing our sense of humour!

Are Luton supporters, in truth particularly bothered about what "entertainment" Saturday brings?

Do Luton have as much affection for Eric?

Having never been to Luton for any reason, nor in truth have i any intention, then why should we offer them a higher level of respect than, Bournemouth, or Rotherham for example.

Seems somewhat pointless to put on a carnival for a club in the shit!

Sorry if i do sound selfish, but i couldn't give a monkeys about these clubs who end up in admin, thats their own fault....i just hope we don't follow suit when we move grounds, as seems to be the norm with a lot of clubs over the last 3-4 yrs!


Both Morecambe and Luton have one thing in common - the fact that Eric Morecambe was born in Morecambe and then when he became famous he went live near Luton andtook them on as his adopted club. His son, Gary has great links with both towns and will be present at the game.

I thank the lord that Morecambe have yet to get an attutude that allows us not to give a toss about teams in turmoil - it's the fans that are the losers and let's face it we are all fans - there is no history between us and Luton and we just want to make their fans feel welcome in what must be a traumatic time for them. I personally feel for Chester fans, the ones Ive met in the York have been great - it's their Chairman that needs a good sorting out.

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:11 pm
by Mark S
BTW I dont think offering a nod in their direction due to a mutal tie of our respect and affection for the best comedian this country has ever seen is exactly a 'Carnival'

I dont think anyone has suggested bringing them flowers, just not to sing any cringeworthy 'You're going down' songs.

'Bring Me Sunshine' is played just before every game, so its nothing different really.

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:14 pm
by BLS BOY
Yeh, sorry chaps, maybe because i'm being slightly ignorant towards Luton's plight does come across offensive, like i said, i didn't want to sound selfish.

I appreciate the fact it isn't the fans fault and the concern at our level must stretch across all clubs from top to bottom.

It just makes me wonder how a clubs like Luton, Rotherham, Bournemouth and Darlo can get into that scenario in the first place.

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:20 pm
by sgt major
BLS BOY wrote:Yeh, sorry chaps, maybe because i'm being slightly ignorant towards Luton's plight does come across offensive, like i said, i didn't want to sound selfish.

I appreciate the fact it isn't the fans fault and the concern at our level must stretch across all clubs from top to bottom.

It just makes me wonder how a clubs like Luton, Rotherham, Bournemouth and Darlo can get into that scenario in the first place.


Money mate - Money

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:05 pm
by Crooky MFC
Mark S wrote:
I would warn you though, you have to wait right to the end of a song about Julian Lennon's relationship with step mum Yoko Ono and that the 'Na na na' bit goes on for a very long time at the end of the song over and over again. But hey, if you lads are up for it, so am I ! ;)



On Saturday it was cut down so it started on the final verse before the ' na na na ... ' Not sure how this was done though ?

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:10 pm
by Christies Child
We need to be in top form both on and off the pitch come Saturday.

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:41 pm
by marky
Ah, Hey Jude. One of my very favourite Beatles songs. Shame I'll miss it :lol:

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:42 pm
by bigreddog
I'm probably getting soppy in my old age, but because of the Eric link I look on Luton as a sort of sister club, and like my own family members we may not get on all the time but I wouldn't want to wish her any harm.

I think I'm right in my belief (please correct me if I'm wrong) that the set of directors that accrued/created their massive points deduction aren't even at the club anymore. so the new directors who will be trying their best and as usual the hard suffering fans end up paying the ultimate price. That's why, amongst many other reasons, we should be extending the hand of friendship on saturday not the chants of derision.

I, like many others, will remember Luton winning the league cup, I think in the days when it was the littlewoods cup if I remember rightly. I was also there the day they turned upto anfield in the 1982-83 season having just been promoted and got a 3-3 draw. I was, along with many fans, shocked gutted and impressed by their football. I got over it by getting Kenny Dalglish's autograph on the way home on the train. So no harm done really.

Morecambe is our team, and Luton is theirs. There will and should be no quarter asked nor given on the field of play. But off it we are noble in defeat and magnanimous in victory, that's what makes us who we are and no game of football should ever change that.

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:03 pm
by Keith
Bring Me Sunshine lyrics were printed in the Luton v Morecambe programme. Too late to do the same for the return (even as an insert?)

Some great points made in this thread. I wish Luton the best, except for the 90 minutes that we meet. If they can take heart from anything, it is the experience of Doncaster and how a period in non-league allowed them to re-group and come back stronger.

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:08 pm
by Aal
I personally think we'll have our toughest opposition for a while.

Totally agree that we don't need to wind up opposition fans unless they are fairly local.

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:15 pm
by Howe Magic
Could be very interesting game on saturday - with luton needing to win 4 games from last 8 they cant afford to come for a point which i think will play into our hands and as far as the respect issue goes we should respect all clubs and there supporters - looking at lutons website sounds like they are bringing loads on saturday

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:43 pm
by marky No.1
bigreddog wrote:I'm probably getting soppy in my old age, but because of the Eric link I look on Luton as a sort of sister club, and like my own family members we may not get on all the time but I wouldn't want to wish her any harm.

I think I'm right in my belief (please correct me if I'm wrong) that the set of directors that accrued/created their massive points deduction aren't even at the club anymore. so the new directors who will be trying their best and as usual the hard suffering fans end up paying the ultimate price. That's why, amongst many other reasons, we should be extending the hand of friendship on saturday not the chants of derision.


Yes it was the previous directors. On our trip to Luton before Xmas our fans were particularly appreciative of the free mince pies at half time - especially Geoff!

Maybe we should reciprocate and give their fans pies/Easter eggs as long as the above is not handing them out :lol:

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:27 pm
by John L
Just dish out shrimps instead!!!

Re: Respect for Luton

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:14 am
by marky No.1
Took these from their messageboard - could'nt possibly show the link as it would be removed sharpish :lol:

"Being humiliated by Darlington is unacceptable and difficult to compute. Being humiliated by Morcambe is simply unforgivable and if that happens I will want every players' head delivered to me on a silver platter so that I can stick them on pikes around the perimeter of the Castle's grounds and watch whilst the ravens peck the flesh from their skulls"

"It's a bit shit when we can't take beating teams like Morecambe as an almost cert.
How did all come to this? "

"If anyone can take pics of the Eric statute with the Luton shirt and hopefully Garry and others and post them here I am sure it will go down well with those that cannot make the Preston + journey. "