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Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 5:48 pm
by twosheds

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:48 pm
by redrobo
I for one appreciate the update.

Let's hope that becomes a regular feature. :)

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:35 pm
by deadorred70
One concern why have they got to wait till june 2026 to sort the pitch out? :?

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:37 pm
by marky No.1
deadorred70 wrote:One concern why have they got to wait till june 2026 to sort the pitch out? :?


I would hope that's a misprint

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:13 pm
by Billy bodger
The early bird tickets on sale from Monday 21st April @ 10am, well if the ownership is not resolved and Whittingham is finally gone I would some think people will not buy them because of the NAPM campaign.

As I have mentioned in other threads after a lot of agonising and doing a U-turn on what I think about the NAPM campaign (not a protest). I will now be one of those who initially holds off if it’s not sorted by then.

Hopefully it’s sorted soon after what I read in the guardian. Just get the take over done and let’s start a new era and I will be back down at the Mazuma buying my season ticket.

Come On You Jason, get us sold.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:26 pm
by Crazeenick
Thanks to Rob for that extensive update - very welcome - lots of positive initiatives there.

Hope he provides further updates regularly.

COYS

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:29 pm
by twosheds
Regardless of what transpires regarding the prospective new owners and our league status I will be renewing our season tickets for next year...the club and all the staff deserve our support...the NAPM hurts them, they are fighting for survival and this is the best you can come up with...

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:09 am
by Keith
twosheds wrote:...the NAPM hurts them, they are fighting for survival and this is the best you can come up with...


Yes, this is the best we can come up with. What do you suggest that is better?

The fans gave it our all when we were in League One, but Whittingham lied and screwed us over.
The fans gave it our all when we were in League Two, but Whittingham lied and screwed us over.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

I genuinely believe, if we are relegated to the National League, with Whittingham still in charge, we have one or two seasons before we're relegated again, at which point, the club will simply be unsustainable. Too large a debt and too big infrastructure.

If we don't do something now, when? And what else? :cry: :cry: :cry:

Hopefully, Not a Penny More will actually protect the jobs of the people at the club. If Whittingham sees that fans are serious, then he'll be motivated to sell while he still has an asset. If relegated to National League North, most of those jobs are gone anyway. Turning things around before that point is the only way to save them.

Different opinions are welcome, and I don't begrudge others seeing it differently, but genuinely, I'd like to know what alternatives there are?

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:28 am
by Old Man Kensey
Keith wrote:
twosheds wrote:...the NAPM hurts them, they are fighting for survival and this is the best you can come up with...


Yes, this is the best we can come up with. What do you suggest that is better?

The fans gave it our all when we were in League One, but Whittingham lied and screwed us over.
The fans gave it our all when we were in League Two, but Whittingham lied and screwed us over.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

I genuinely believe, if we are relegated to the National League, with Whittingham still in charge, we have one or two seasons before we're relegated again, at which point, the club will simply be unsustainable. Too large a debt and too big infrastructure.

If we don't do something now, when? And what else? :cry: :cry: :cry:

Hopefully, Not a Penny More will actually protect the jobs of the people at the club. If Whittingham sees that fans are serious, then he'll be motivated to sell while he still has an asset. If relegated to National League North, most of those jobs are gone anyway. Turning things around before that point is the only way to save them.

Different opinions are welcome, and I don't begrudge others seeing it differently, but genuinely, I'd like to know what alternatives there are?


Fully agree with Keith on this.
Doing nothing is no longer an option.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:50 am
by Billy bodger
Keith wrote:
twosheds wrote:...the NAPM hurts them, they are fighting for survival and this is the best you can come up with...


Yes, this is the best we can come up with. What do you suggest that is better?

The fans gave it our all when we were in League One, but Whittingham lied and screwed us over.
The fans gave it our all when we were in League Two, but Whittingham lied and screwed us over.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

I genuinely believe, if we are relegated to the National League, with Whittingham still in charge, we have one or two seasons before we're relegated again, at which point, the club will simply be unsustainable. Too large a debt and too big infrastructure.

If we don't do something now, when? And what else? :cry: :cry: :cry:

Hopefully, Not a Penny More will actually protect the jobs of the people at the club. If Whittingham sees that fans are serious, then he'll be motivated to sell while he still has an asset. If relegated to National League North, most of those jobs are gone anyway. Turning things around before that point is the only way to save them.

Different opinions are welcome, and I don't begrudge others seeing it differently, but genuinely, I'd like to know what alternatives there are?


Well put Keith, well put.

I held a steadfast different opinion even as late as January/February this year, but I came to see it was delusional to keep on listening to Whittingham and a campaign is needed.

Is the NAPM campaign something that will harm the club more than Whittingham has, I don’t think so in the long term, as Keith explains above it might just save the Club.

The NAPM campaign is not one I have lightly come round to believe it is something the fans can do, even if it’s just to show Whittingham we have had enough while HE CONTINUES TO DESTROY OUR CLUB.

Just let’s try and get Whittingham out of the Club and if successful I will be down at the Mazuma buying my season ticket and giving my backing to the new owners.

Whoever that maybe, Panjab Warriors or A N Other, they have to prove to the fans they are steadfast and committed to funding our Club and bringing it back better than ever after the terrible last few years.

Lastly I will say Whittingham uses this Club while he slowly and painfully destroys it and I urge every fan to do what they believe is best for Morecambe FC, not everyone will come to the same conclusion and that’s fine, let’s see how things pan out before the new season in August, but a line has to be drawn and for me the NAPM campaign is now the best thing I can support, nobody else is coming up with an alternative other than dance to Whittingham’s tune and I’ve had enough.
COYS

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:46 am
by Hodgie1978
I hope the Trust reveals the results of their email soon..
The findings of that question could really make Jason rethink about his actions.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:52 am
by Old Man Kensey
Hodgie1978 wrote:I hope the Trust reveals the results of their email soon..
The findings of that question could really make Jason rethink about his actions.


I'd be surprised if it was a vote in favour of NAPM. The apathy of the average Morecambe fan is quite staggering. Lots of people sleepwalking towards a cliff edge.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:59 am
by Hodgie1978
I think 30% would be enough to make Jason worry.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:05 pm
by Andy D
Regarding the NAPM campaign.

Lets not forget next season people can still pay on the day anyway, if things get resolved.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:13 pm
by Billy bodger
Andy D wrote:Regarding the NAPM campaign.

Lets not forget next season people can still pay on the day anyway, if things get resolved.


If it’s resolved before the season starts I buy my season ticket, if it’s during next season I come back and pay on the gate or a match day ticket from the shop.

If it’s around the 30% mark that takes part in NAPM, that would be a great level of support for the NAPM campaign, as Hodgie1978 says. If Old Man Kensey is right and it’s not well backed because of the apathy of Morecambe Fans or that other fans believe it harms the Club to much that fine, each to their own.

Come on Jason, SELL.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:09 pm
by Old Man Kensey
The deadline has been extended due to the low turnout.

https://www.facebook.com/share/16Epzkjuo5/

A sign of the apathy from the members?

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:46 pm
by black morse
Old Man Kensey wrote:The deadline has been extended due to the low turnout.

https://www.facebook.com/share/16Epzkjuo5/

A sign of the apathy from the members?


Almost certainly I'm afraid. Most of the people prepared to take some form of action would In assume have joined the Trust by now so it would appear that even some of them are simply hoping for the best :roll:
The Trust cannot support any form of action if it's members are apathetic.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:48 pm
by Andy D
Don't look into this survey to much.

A fair few I know, especially the younger one's, who are doing the NAPM campaign are not even in the Shrimstrust.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:10 pm
by Keith
Old Man Kensey wrote:The deadline has been extended due to the low turnout.

https://www.facebook.com/share/16Epzkjuo5/

A sign of the apathy from the members?


I don't recall seeing it. Had a look in my emails and it isn't there, so it must have gone in SPAM folder?

The Trust refuse to post on here, then complain about apathy? FB threads disappear so quickly or, don't show up.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 9:26 pm
by Billy bodger
Keith wrote:
Old Man Kensey wrote:The deadline has been extended due to the low turnout.

https://www.facebook.com/share/16Epzkjuo5/

A sign of the apathy from the members?


I don't recall seeing it. Had a look in my emails and it isn't there, so it must have gone in SPAM folder?

The Trust refuse to post on here, then complain about apathy? FB threads disappear so quickly or, don't show up.


The Trust refuse to post on here, why’s that?

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 9:33 pm
by Keith
Billy bodger wrote:
Keith wrote:
Old Man Kensey wrote:The deadline has been extended due to the low turnout.

https://www.facebook.com/share/16Epzkjuo5/

A sign of the apathy from the members?


I don't recall seeing it. Had a look in my emails and it isn't there, so it must have gone in SPAM folder?

The Trust refuse to post on here, then complain about apathy? FB threads disappear so quickly or, don't show up.


The Trust refuse to post on here, why’s that?


Absolutely no idea. Over the years I've repeatedly suggested that they should, as there are. alot of people on here, who don't use Facebook. Also, a LOT of people who read the forum but don't post. I've said the same to the club, but they don't post either. Even if they came on and linked directly to news stories on the official site. Peter McGuigan always disliked it because I refused to censor it, even when people posted stuff that I disagreed with, and the club DEFINITELY didn't like, so perhaps simply not having control?

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:14 am
by marky No.1
Old Man Kensey wrote:The deadline has been extended due to the low turnout.

https://www.facebook.com/share/16Epzkjuo5/

A sign of the apathy from the members?


I've filled the form in even tho Google want more questions answered than the Trust do.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:19 pm
by black morse
marky No.1 wrote:
Old Man Kensey wrote:The deadline has been extended due to the low turnout.

https://www.facebook.com/share/16Epzkjuo5/

A sign of the apathy from the members?


I've filled the form in even tho Google want more questions answered than the Trust do.


Ditto!

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 2:38 pm
by BerlinWaller
The Trust do a lot of things right and have done so for many years now but I don't think they have a lot of support these days. I attended the meeting at MCC last year that was called to discuss the next steps and there wasn't even 20 people in the room.

The apathy from the majority of our fanbase is criminal, i've been saying it on here for years now. Happy to sit on their hands and snipe at others who have tried to force the issue.

Re: Supporters update from the GM

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 2:55 pm
by black morse
BerlinWaller wrote:The Trust do a lot of things right and have done so for many years now but I don't think they have a lot of support these days. I attended the meeting at MCC last year that was called to discuss the next steps and there wasn't even 20 people in the room.

The apathy from the majority of our fanbase is criminal, i've been saying it on here for years now. Happy to sit on their hands and snipe at others who have tried to force the issue.


And they'll be the first to moan that nobody did anything. As I've said before...most people will believe what they want to believe.