900 days

[Hodgie1978]

900 days our amazing Football club has been up for sale. Making it the longest saga in British football.
Totally unacceptable.

[Andy D]

Jason will still be the owner next season.

[deadorred70]

What ever league we're in

[glagys]

When it becomes mathematically impossible for us to stay up thats when the sale will go through

[Hodgie1978]

Everyone at the club has given up. So it will be 30 years in April since our promotion to the Conference.
Are we in a better position than 30 years ago?

[redrobo]

Everyone at the club has given up. So it will be 30 years in April since our promotion to the Conference.
Are we in a better position than 30 years ago?

Absolute BOLLOCKS......my reaction post match did say relegation bound but that was in the heat of the moment when my anger at the total lack of respect by the Walsall players and manager took a hold.

YOU may have given up but DON'T even suggest EVERYONE at our club is as negative as you.

If you feel like that ....BLOODY WELL STAY AWAY....Our club needs EVERYBODY to get behind the BoDs, the manager and the players.

Rant over.

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

Everyone at the club has given up. So it will be 30 years in April since our promotion to the Conference.
Are we in a better position than 30 years ago?

In answer to your question, no, because 30 years ago we had a fully committed Peter McGuigan backing the club whereas now we have a disinterested muppet.

I don't agree that everyone has given up. I think everyone is incredibly frustrated, particularly with the last two games against 1st and 2nd in the table when we could have quite easily got something from both games.

As long as Carlisle, Tranmere and Accrington maintain their current level of crapness we still have a glimmer of hope.

[black morse]

Everyone at the club has given up. So it will be 30 years in April since our promotion to the Conference.
Are we in a better position than 30 years ago?

In answer to your question, no, because 30 years ago we had a fully committed Peter McGuigan backing the club whereas now we have a disinterested muppet.

I don't agree that everyone has given up. I think everyone is incredibly frustrated, particularly with the last two games against 1st and 2nd in the table when we could have quite easily got something from both games.

As long as Carlisle, Tranmere and Accrington maintain their current level of crapness we still have a glimmer of hope.[/quote]

Agreed but I'm not sure whether Hodgie is referring to giving up on our league status or giving up on trying to get Jason to be realistic in selling our club.

[Wild Bill]

I am far more hopeful of us staying up than Jason selling the club. It's not against Walsall that our season will be defined. We just need to get more points than Tranmere and keep ahead of Carlisle.

30 years ago was very different. We had a tarted up NPL ground, 1000 fans and a semi pro squad. Things were more positive then but we were much further down the football pecking order then.

[Keith]

...I'm not sure whether Hodgie is referring to giving up on our league status or giving up on trying to get Jason to be realistic in selling our club.

That's how I read it too. Whittingham will continue to peddle bullshit, and we will reach 1,000 days with him still screwing us. I've certainly "given up" as far as expecting a sale is concerned. The 'Trust' sent an email out recently with a subject line asking what questions members wanted to put to Whittingham? I didn't even bother reading the email, let alone waste time responding. I can't remember if I got an email saying he'd responded? (A shame the Trust don't bother to engage on here, but that's a different issue)

[CityShrimp]

Sadly I expect we will be starting next season with Whittingham still at the helm.

[Keith]

Sadly I expect we will be starting next season with Whittingham still at the helm.

I suspect you are correct. If we reach a point where relegation is inevitable, then we need to protest by cutting off funding, in a 'not a penny more' campaign. If we start next season in the National League, with Whittingham in place, then we need to act, even if that harms the club, or we will carry on falling. Lancaster v Macclesfield yesterday. Not long ago Macclesfield were a Football League club. We can easily follow them.

However, all the time we could save our Football League position, we need to be 100% behind the manager, team and club.

[CityShrimp]

Sadly I expect we will be starting next season with Whittingham still at the helm.

I suspect you are correct. If we reach a point where relegation is inevitable, then we need to protest by cutting off funding, in a 'not a penny more' campaign. If we start next season in the National League, with Whittingham in place, then we need to act, even if that harms the club, or we will carry on falling. Lancaster v Macclesfield yesterday. Not long ago Macclesfield were a Football League club. We can easily follow them.

However, all the time we could save our Football League position, we need to be 100% behind the manager, team and club.

I agree. It’s miles easier to stay in the football league than to get back into it from non league. With that in mind, if we lose our FL status and JW is still in charge then I’d back a boycott to force the club into administration as we won’t have anything left to lose.

I’d also advocate us telling JW in advance that this is what will happen if he hasn’t sold and we go down. That’s the one message we could send to Jason that might have some genuine impact on him.

[Hodgie1978]

Yes I'm referring to Jason.
Might have known Neil would be a drama queen about it.
If Jason is still here next season then a not a penny more campaign is needed.
It will be the hardest thing ever for a Morecambe fan but
action is needed to stop the slide.

[Billy bodger]

Not a penny more, for me just won’t work, it will harm the Club, not Jason! I don’t know why those who advocate this type of protest cannot grasp that point.

I do admire that Hodgie1978 and others want to do something, but at the moment that’s turn up and support the team and let’s see where we are at the end of the season. I am disappointed that I cannot come up with something that would just harm Jason and not the CLUB. That type of protest or campaign I would support wholeheartedly and I think many would, ‘not a penny more’ is not, for me, the right kind of protest.

If we do go down many will, I think, just not come any more, not that it’s part of some protest, we will just naturally lose a good many of what is at the moment is a hard core of about 2,500 fans

I am like a lot of others, that there are a lot of twist and turns in this season and I have not given up hope.

What I would say is that the manager needs to as for money off the BOD’s to hire a finishing coach, maybe some ex-player coming in to help us out or an ex-professional that could work with our strikers. If we spend on that and it reaps the reward of our players putting the ball in the net, it might just be the difference that keeps us in the league.

[Keith]

Not a penny more, for me just won’t work, it will harm the Club, not Jason! I don’t know why those who advocate this type of protest cannot grasp that point...

...If we do go down many will, I think, just not come any more, not that it’s part of some protest, we will just naturally lose a good many of what is at the moment is a hard core of about 2,500 fans

A 'not a penny more' will hurt the club AND Whittingham. If the club goes into Administration, he would lose more than most. The club would probably be relegated again, but would have a better chance of returning to National League with a new owner, especially if they are able to buy the club much cheaper than Whittingham is trying to sell it for now. I think in the event of another relegation, thinking anything will change for the better is for the birds.

Where would you let us fall before you'd agree that something drastic would happen? National League North? Northern Premier League? If Whittingham had invested a small amount we would have avoided relegation from League One. We're now watching the same happen again. He'll screw us over in the National League too.

[Hodgie1978]

If Jason takes a loan out a 3% interest
He then puts it as a loan to Morecambe fc as the budget at say 9%.
If Morecambe can't pay it to Jason then how does he pay the original loan?

[marky No.1]

It's a joke of a way of "buying" a business, shouldn't be allowed particularly when you and your partner were barred from being company directors down the line.
Very much doubt he will be borrowing at 3% now

[Phoenix Shrimp 2017]

If Jason takes a loan out a 3% interest
He then puts it as a loan to Morecambe fc as the budget at say 9%.
If Morecambe can't pay it to Jason then how does he pay the original loan?

I know this has been suggested before but is it based on hard evidence. As we know with Worcester Warriors Whittingham appears to take on sports clubs to try and make a quick buck, but what is his money making scheme with our club. Is it the loan scam or some other scheme/scam which has backfired on him?

[Billy bodger]

Where would you let us fall before you'd agree that something drastic would happen? National League North? Northern Premier League? If Whittingham had invested a small amount we would have avoided relegation from League One. We're now watching the same happen again. He'll screw us over in the National League too.[/quote]

I could ask you the same but we do totally agree a small investment when we were still in League One we would have avoided relegation.
On our off field problems I take the view it’s something that I, you or anyone else cannot affect. It’s the whole package!! I think you know as much as everybody else how I also want Jason gone, I’ve given him plenty of stick on here, with my fellow mates and anybody who asks me about the Club, I always say our problems start with Whittinghams ownership.
I also take the view the players on the pitch can in the end turn all that negativity, all the circus on its head by doing the business on the pitch, that’s why I go and watch a live game of football, Whittingham or not and in the end who knows what the calibre of the next owner will be. I still think there is time for us to stay in League two and if we do I think it’s best for the Club.

You have the right to disagree and that is perfectly OK.

[Billy bodger]

If Jason takes a loan out a 3% interest
He then puts it as a loan to Morecambe fc as the budget at say 9%.
If Morecambe can't pay it to Jason then how does he pay the original loan?

I know this has been suggested before but is it based on hard evidence. As we know with Worcester Warriors Whittingham appears to take on sports clubs to try and make a quick buck, but what is his money making scheme with our club. Is it the loan scam or some other scheme/scam which has backfired on him?

If it’s backfired on him it is certainly the case that the Club has taken a hit as well.

[KenH]

If Whittingham had invested a small amount we would have avoided relegation from League One. We're now watching the same happen again.

We didn't need more from Jason. The club made over a million pounds profit in the promotion year. The Board decided to use it to repay the loans and make the club "debt free" in their words! Then the following year, it was back out with the begging bowl to cover the losses. They should never have used all that profit to repay ALL the debt, and should have kept a reserve back to guarantee our L1 place. As it was, clearly Jason wouldn't put in enough money to give the manager a competitive budget and we were relegated because of it.

[black morse]

So far as the 'not a penny more' position goes I have so far refrained from commenting as I can no longer attend matches. I don't think many would go along with it whilst we still have a glimmer of remaining in the ELF but I think if Jason is still the owner and we go down a large number of fans would agree that it's the only way to get rid of him. Yes it would result in administration and yes it would probably mean starting again in National League North but the club would finally be rid of the bastard and hopefully he'd lose all his investments. Jason out? Yes and hopefully that means out on the streets.

[redrobo]

It's all gone very quiet again Even regular updates from the Trust seem to have come to a premature halt.

I know I posted a while ago that it was silence from the Boardroom as they probably have not a clue about where we are with the EFL. However the total lack of silence is worrying or is some positive news on the horizon?

[Keith]

I don't think many would go along with it whilst we still have a glimmer of remaining in the EFL but I think if Jason is still the owner and we go down a large number of fans would agree that it's the only way to get rid of him. Yes it would result in administration and yes it would probably mean starting again in National League North but the club would finally be rid of the bastard and hopefully he'd lose all his investments. Jason out? Yes and hopefully that means out on the streets.

Just to be clear, I'm 100% saying such a protest should only happen if/once our relegation is confirmed. National League is so competitive that we wouldn't have a hope in hell of a quick return anyway. Look how much money York are throwing around, and if Carlisle are one of the two going down, they'll spend big. There are already National League teams with a bigger budget than we have now.