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Redalert1970 wrote:We are just getting on the next train

nobbyshrimp wrote:Not forgetting if you have an advanced booked train which is delayed or cancelled you can claim delay repay. Before anyone jumps on the bandwagon saying yea yea but you get nowt, Avanti are very good at repaying and if you’re train is cancelled you get 100% back of your journey but remember it’s only your single journey ie Euston to Birmingham or Preston etc unless you’ve bought one for the entire journey straight thru in which case you can claim the lot. You can only claim after the journey, keep your ticket as you’ll need a photo or screen shot and you’ll have the money back within a couple of weeks

Ps
Don’t forget you can get trains Marlybone to Birmingham and the Chiltern line is great. 5 mins walk from Bham moor street to New street

Phoenix Shrimp 2017 wrote:Ah well as long as they get extra money. Above and beyond the wedge Labour have just given them!

If they don't it's 'Out Brothers Out' and sod the public.

Billy bodger wrote:It’s RMT managers at Avanti who are on strike on Sundays, the strikes are carry’s on from the 12th Jan till 25th May. Now they do have managers that are not RMT managers but Sunday is somewhat maned by staff doing overtime.
That is called working on a rest day now!! If I read it right RMT staff get paid less than Avanti staff doing the same job. Isn’t that against the law?
Why not take Avanti to court and carry on working, no disruption to passengers, just sort it out in court, surly RMT would win? Avanti would then have to pay people doing the same job the same rate.

Avanti are in a pickle with there staffing, apparently, they don’t have enough staff.

Keith wrote:

Phoenix Shrimp 2017 wrote:Ah well as long as they get extra money. Above and beyond the wedge Labour have just given them!

If they don't it's 'Out Brothers Out' and sod the public.

Financial year ending March 2023, Avanti paid shareholders £11 million. You wouldn't want the workers to get a sniff of that cash, eh? Much of the profit goes to the Italian railways, who own a huge swathe of British rail. UK government subsidies, paid to UK rail companies, that are owned by French, Italian & Dutch railway companies. UK government & passengers, subsidising European railways, that are much better. Ain't Brexit & privatisation grand?

Phoenix Shrimp 2017 wrote:

nobbyshrimp wrote:Not forgetting if you have an advanced booked train which is delayed or cancelled you can claim delay repay. Before anyone jumps on the bandwagon saying yea yea but you get nowt, Avanti are very good at repaying and if you’re train is cancelled you get 100% back of your journey but remember it’s only your single journey ie Euston to Birmingham or Preston etc unless you’ve bought one for the entire journey straight thru in which case you can claim the lot. You can only claim after the journey, keep your ticket as you’ll need a photo or screen shot and you’ll have the money back within a couple of weeks

Ps
Don’t forget you can get trains Marlybone to Birmingham and the Chiltern line is great. 5 mins walk from Bham moor street to New street

Just looking at the above as an option but guess what. On the northern leg you have to change at Crewe onto guess what. An Avanti west coast line train which may well never appear.

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:Stop making excuses.....the Unions have got and continue to get everything they want, and will do, while Liebour 'rule the roost'. Those being penalised are the paying general public who are paying handsomely, generally in advance, for an advertised service.

Cancellations have knock-on effects, can and do add to further cancellations and the paying public being penalised even further often on the few overcrowded services that have survived the decimations.

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:No need to respond.

Keith wrote:

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:Stop making excuses.....the Unions have got and continue to get everything they want, and will do, while Liebour 'rule the roost'. Those being penalised are the paying general public who are paying handsomely, generally in advance, for an advertised service.

Cancellations have knock-on effects, can and do add to further cancellations and the paying public being penalised even further often on the few overcrowded services that have survived the decimations.

The billionaires have had 14 years of getting everything they wanted while Truss, Johnson and the other sycophants who pretended to run the country, were grovelling to the non-dom billionaire tax exiles, and screwing the workers. Unless you are suggesting the railways were running better six months ago.

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:No need to respond.

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:So tell us a bit about Northern Rail please. Are they government run or not.....how long have they been government run? What's their current performance record like?

Keith wrote:

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:So tell us a bit about Northern Rail please. Are they government run or not.....how long have they been government run? What's their current performance record like?

You start. Let me know how good it was before, when Abellio was taking profits to the Netherlands. Then, how much it improved under Arriva?

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:

Billy bodger wrote:It’s RMT managers at Avanti who are on strike on Sundays, the strikes are carry’s on from the 12th Jan till 25th May. Now they do have managers that are not RMT managers but Sunday is somewhat maned by staff doing overtime.
That is called working on a rest day now!! If I read it right RMT staff get paid less than Avanti staff doing the same job. Isn’t that against the law?
Why not take Avanti to court and carry on working, no disruption to passengers, just sort it out in court, surly RMT would win? Avanti would then have to pay people doing the same job the same rate.

Avanti are in a pickle with there staffing, apparently, they don’t have enough staff.

Stop making excuses.....the Unions have got and continue to get everything they want, and will do, while Liebour 'rule the roost'. Those being penalised are the paying general public who are paying handsomely, generally in advance, for an advertised service.

Cancellations have knock-on effects, can and do add to further cancellations and the paying public being penalised even further often on the few overcrowded services that have survived the decimations.

No need to respond.

Redalert1970 wrote:
Can't see any end to this not in the near future anyway.

It's not just Avanti ... Northern and Trans Pennine is an even worse service

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:

Redalert1970 wrote:
Can't see any end to this not in the near future anyway.

It's not just Avanti ... Northern and Trans Pennine is an even worse service

Northern are government owned and run, but are possibly the worst of the lot [Trans Pennine fall under the same umbrella!].

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:

Redalert1970 wrote:
Can't see any end to this not in the near future anyway.

It's not just Avanti ... Northern and Trans Pennine is an even worse service

Northern are government owned and run, but are possibly the worst of the lot [Trans Pennine fall under the same umbrella!].

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:

Redalert1970 wrote:Northern are government owned and run, but are possibly the worst of the lot [Trans Pennine fall under the same umbrella!].

Keith wrote:Manchester have taken the city's buses back into public ownership. Let's see how that goes. When I say "see how that goes", I don't mean it needs to be a success by the middle of next month!