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Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:34 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
Just had a look at our Companies House pages.

Interesting to see that the Annual Confirmation Statement that lists all the shareholders and their shareholdings is now overdue for submission.

Last year it was submitted on the earliest possible date it could be which is 23rd June.

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:43 pm
by Redalert1970
To thickies like me what does that mean exactly

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:44 pm
by twosheds
Have you got a link to that please....

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:47 pm
by Redalert1970
Company status
Active
Company type
Private limited Company
Incorporated on
30 September 1927
Accounts
Next accounts made up to 25 May 2024
due by 25 February 2025

Last accounts made up to 31 May 2023

Confirmation statement overdue
Next statement date 23 June 2024
due by 7 July 2024

Last statement dated 23 June 2023

Nature of business (SIC)
93120 - Activities of sport clubs

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:27 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
twosheds wrote:Have you got a link to that please....



https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/00224792

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 6:26 pm
by twosheds
Gone_Shrimping wrote:
twosheds wrote:Have you got a link to that please....



https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/00224792


Cheers...

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 6:37 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
Redalert1970 wrote:To thickies like me what does that mean exactly



It could be being delayed because they think that a large transfer of shares will be recorded on the Confirmation Statement which would only happen if there was a change in ownership.

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:43 pm
by marky No.1
Just hope we're not relying on the company that we paid the VAT to, to sort it :roll:

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:09 am
by KenH
If it's anything like the VAT fiasco, probably more likely it's just the Club's foul up rather than anything more sinister.

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:08 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
KenH wrote:If it's anything like the VAT fiasco, probably more likely it's just the Club's foul up rather than anything more sinister.



It shouldn't be a club foul up. Co-Chairman being an accountant will have his finger on the pulse. Last year it was submitted on the first day it possibly could.

Presumably if shares change hands this week before the Confirmation Statement is filed online then it would reflect the new controlling interest when it is finally submitted ?

No other reason to hold it back , unlike when they amend the financial year-end to give another 3 months to file the annual accounts.

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:27 am
by Gone_Shrimping
Statement still not filed and 4 days overdue. I have never seen it submitted late for the club before.

Maybe waiting for a transfer/sale of shares to be made and reported :?: :?: :?:

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:35 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
Confirmation Statement filed today.

Bond Group still the majority Shareholder.

Sarb Capital hold 200,000 shares , bought when he injected money for the payroll.

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:51 am
by redrobo
Gone_Shrimping wrote:Confirmation Statement filed today.

Bond Group still the majority Shareholder.

Sarb Capital hold 200,000 shares , bought when he injected money for the payroll.


Forgive my ignorance but what does the above mean.... :?:

Is it just confirmation that Bond Group are still our owners or is it a statement to say that they were the owners.... :?: :?: :?:

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:57 am
by Gone_Shrimping
redrobo wrote:
Gone_Shrimping wrote:Confirmation Statement filed today.

Bond Group still the majority Shareholder.

Sarb Capital hold 200,000 shares , bought when he injected money for the payroll.


Forgive my ignorance but what does the above mean.... :?:

Is it just confirmation that Bond Group are still our owners or is it a statement to say that they were the owners.... :?: :?: :?:



It just confirms that at the date the Confirmation Statement was submitted the Bond Group were the majority controlling shareholder and therefore they were the owners of Morecambe FC.

If the shares held by Bond Group are sold soon which we all hope then the next Confirmation Statement in 2025 will reflect that.

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:50 pm
by BerlinWaller
78000 new shares issued

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:44 pm
by Phoenix Shrimp 2017
BerlinWaller wrote:78000 new shares issued


OK BW but do you know if there is any significance to this in respect of ownership of the club or anything else for that matter?

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:45 pm
by Billy bodger
Is there a sale going ahead?

Why have 78,000 shares been issued if a sale is going through?

It all gets deeper and deeper :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Will it mean we have a few more lads coming in before the deadline.

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:59 pm
by BerlinWaller
Phoenix Shrimp 2017 wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:78000 new shares issued


OK BW but do you know if there is any significance to this in respect of ownership of the club or anything else for that matter?


If you were putting money in to the football club, would you loan it and charge interest or would you buy 78000 shares that are pretty much worthles?

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:02 pm
by Bare bum
BerlinWaller wrote:78000 new shares issued


Doesn't Companies House also show 5,278,000 shares too? Apparently at the same value in GBP.

Then page 3 shows a total of 5,334,181, which is short of the sum of the 2, but maybe has had costs deducted?

does £5.33 million reflect a purchase?

Somebody - Anybody?

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/00224792

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:15 pm
by Valkyrie_Wings

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:47 pm
by glagys
More shares sold to somebody
to pay August wages ?

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:23 am
by KenH
Given that the club will have received a lot of money in May/June for season ticket sales, it seems very worrying if they've run out of money already and needed an input of capital to pay the wages in July!

The ST money should be ringfenced and released over the entire season to pay costs as the months pass, not be used up fully even before the season has started.

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:47 am
by Billy bodger
glagys wrote:More shares sold to somebody
to pay August wages ?


Or just somebody slowly building up their investment in the Club.

The question is is it someone who already owns shares or is it somebody new?

If it is new investment to pay wages then hasn’t JW agreed a budget for the year so you would have thought he could raise that capital himself. It’s all part of being a responsible owner ( :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: ).

Has the 2yr anniversary passed?

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:19 pm
by vvm
Is it possible to see who the shares were issued to?

Re: Companies House - Confirmation Statement

PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:22 pm
by KenH
vvm wrote:Is it possible to see who the shares were issued to?


Not until the next full shareholder list is submitted to Companies House.