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A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:11 pm
by Christies Child
Whilst Scot Loach was receiving praise for his performance against Chelsea, Joe Lewis was coming in for some stick for his showing in Peterborough's 3-1 home thrashing v Yeovil.
I'm probably alone in my belief (what's new?) but for me Barry Roach is now on a parr with Joe Lewis who, of late, appears to have made quite a few bloomers at 'Boro.
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:12 pm
by marky
Just how many variants on a name does that poor guy have?!?! It's Roche
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:14 pm
by PUNKISDEAD
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:18 pm
by Christies Child
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:14 pm
by marky No.1
All sounds a bit fishy to me
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:16 pm
by Christies Child
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:21 pm
by RedRedWine1
You're talking Codswallop Marky (is this the imminent return of the fish thread?).
Roche has been quality this season, player of the season without a doubt.
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:23 pm
by Gnasher
This thread is going all over the plaice
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:48 pm
by ezz
I've always thought Roche has been as good as Lewis, some performances have even been better!
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:11 pm
by Crooky MFC
Roche is quality, not as good as Lewis though
Just!
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:14 pm
by Harry
Saw Loachy's performance on highlights this morning and was very impressed. I think the difference between him and Lewis is that he's been a couple of places on loan, steadily growing into being a good, reliable consistent keeper who can make a quality save when needed. Lewis on the other hand has been overshadowed by the hype, and I think the pressure of being in the England squad, and rumours of big clubs ready to pay 7-figure sums for him has got to him a bit, and he's maybe not quite the player he could have been given his undoubted potential.
But hey, they're both still young lads so let's see where their careers take them. Keepers generally do better when they get a bit older anyway.
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:08 pm
by marky No.1
RedRedWine wrote:You're talking Codswallop Marky (is this the imminent return of the fish thread?).
Utter pollocks, you must be green behind the gills if you thought I would do such a thing
Loach is'nt a Fin is he?
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:43 pm
by World Cup Willie
I think Roche is getting batter and batter. At the start of the season he was all at sea and floundering a bit, but it is no fluke that he is come a long way, and is now a quality keepnet.
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:23 pm
by PUNKISDEAD
PEOPLE
I sense a bit of tenchion on this subject, we need to get back to the poster original deluded thoughts!!
BTW who is Mark Fish playing for nowadays??
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:26 pm
by james456
Reelly... no one has picked up that Loach is a type of fish, too?
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:57 pm
by PUNKISDEAD
Is that Loach or Loache
And if you caught the said fish, would you poach it, poche it, or poache it??
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:11 pm
by Mighty Red
And if you caught the said fish, would you poach it, poche it, or poache it??
No, you'd
fry it.
Do you get it?
Fry?
Small fish, eh?
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:02 pm
by seasonsinthesun
I don't think Roche would be one to fish for compliments, but he's haddock up to here with the praise he has received this season, when all he wants to do is keep a tight line in front of him and deal with the sprats that come his way.
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:17 pm
by james456
PUNKISDEAD wrote:Is that Loach or Loache
And if you caught the said fish, would you poach it, poche it, or poache it??
No, definitely loach. Now stop carping on about it.
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:52 pm
by campdave
Christies Child wrote:Whilst Scot Loach was receiving praise for his performance against Chelsea, Joe Lewis was coming in for some stick for his showing in Peterborough's 3-1 home thrashing v Yeovil.
I'm probably alone in my belief (what's new?) but for me Barry Roach is now on a parr with Joe Lewis who, of late, appears to have made quite a few bloomers at 'Boro.
Dunno, Roche was flapping a bit yesterday, on a couple of occasions came out for balls he had n chance of getting.
He's a great keeper, but I don't feel he communicates with the players in front of him like Lewis did.
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:00 pm
by P/T Indie
Roche has to command his area better for me like dave says he can be very shaky at times however he has improved from the start of the season.
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:02 pm
by marky
There's an acquaintance of mine through a non-football forum who supports Peterborough and has been bemoaning Lewis of late. I've tried to explain how confidence is perhaps more important for a 'keeper than any other player and that talent will show in the end.
Re: A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:13 am
by RedRedWine1
I'm not surprised that both Joe and Barry are performing better here than they have elsewhere. Here they are constantly in the game, at Chesterfield and Peterborough in their current respective divisions I can't see that being the case. The goalkeeping position to me is quite strange, as the gap in quality between the top level of the pyramid and the bottom is perhaps at its most negligible when compared to other areas of the field.
To me the differnce between a good goalkeeper and a great keeper is that a great keeper can not have anything to do all game, and then be called upon to make one save. Being out of the game for long periods can lead to a lack of concentration. Great keepers can be out of the game for 90 minutes yet still make that save. Good keepers may make the mistake that costs the side. David James is a prime expamle. At Watford, Villa, Man City, and Portsmouth he has been very successful, yet for Liverpool and England (sides where you don't expect to be doing as much defending) I don't think you can say he has covered himself in glory.