Boardroom Update | New club vision & strategy

Re: Boardroom Update | New club vision & strategy

Postby redrobo » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:01 pm

Such a pity that you appear to be unable to accept that I and possibly others have a different view on how to achieve what we ALL want.... :cry: without doing a Dagenham et al.....
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Re: Boardroom Update | New club vision & strategy

Postby P/T Indie » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:11 pm

I think even if we offer Derek a new contract it doesn't mean he will sign it as he might be getting offers elsewhere, I think if a Scottish Premiership team made him an offer he wouldn't be able to turn it down.
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Re: Boardroom Update | New club vision & strategy

Postby RedRedWine » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:37 pm

redrobo wrote:Such a pity that you appear to be unable to accept that I and possibly others have a different view on how to achieve what we ALL want.... :cry: without doing a Dagenham et al.....


I couldn't muster the energy to respond to it, but glad that others did. Complete nonsense.

P/T Indie wrote:I think even if we offer Derek a new contract it doesn't mean he will sign it as he might be getting offers elsewhere, I think if a Scottish Premiership team made him an offer he wouldn't be able to turn it down.


Possibly - but he did turn Hearts down before the ink had dried on his deal here. That's the third or fourth biggest job in Scotland IMO. For me, if he believed in the project here (that he could take us into League One) and could be financially compensated for doing it, it would look better on his CV than anything he could realistically achieve in Scotland - unless he landed a job for Hearts (big job now - unsure what is happening with Scots Championship this season), Hibs (been there before briefly - bridges burnt?), or Aberdeen (long-term manager in situ) capable of qualifying for Europe or winning a cup by avoiding Rangers and or Celtic until the final and getting lucky.

It depends what his personal aspirations and situations are - he might be home sick for example(?), but if it is to progress professionally through the leagues in England (like he opted to do with Plymouth..... just about as far away from Scotland as you could get) then success at Morecambe would be really eye opening - even more so than it is already IMO.

I hope the club has at least started to talk to Derek his current deal and possibly extending it - it might not be for him, in which case whats the plan to get into league one without him, because the good players that he finds/develops seem to follow him into future employment (a bit like Sammy Mac)?
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Re: Boardroom Update | New club vision & strategy

Postby redrobo » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:51 pm

How silly of me not to realise that your opinion is the only one that counts....

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Re: Boardroom Update | New club vision & strategy

Postby RedRedWine » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:43 pm

I've never stated that my opinion is superior to others nor do I think this, a suggestion that coming from you I find quite ironic! Apologies if I have given you this impression.

All for a good chat and discussion/debate about the team/club, and engaging with others where my viewpoint differs. When I do, I try to make a well reasoned argument in a light hearted manner - which people might disagree with, but if they do hopefully they can see how/why my opinion has been formulated. Something I've done in this and other threads.... apart from addressing your throwaway comment (in a lengthy reply covering numerous topics, this is the only think you are concerned about), which I think is a complete non-starter for any football club at any level. Don't get upset when your crackpot suggestions go down like a lead balloon :lol:

I personally don't know where to start with the opinion that, in a competitive sporting setting where the aim is beat your opponent and collect more points than your rivals over a one year cycle, somebody can conclude there is a decision to be made: when is a right and wrong time to be successful?!? You are either good enough, or you aren't. Football is really that simple - no need to cloud the issue with dithering concerns about being able to cope with a new challenge. Lets seize the opportunity, there's no guarantees that this opportunity will present itself again..... in my opinion that is equal to all others ;) .
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Re: Boardroom Update | New club vision & strategy

Postby redrobo » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:53 pm

My concern was and remains so the affordability of promotion this season.

As i have already stated our club has (in my opinion) to get the foundations ie finance in place to be able to sustain life in EFL1. I can't think of anything worse than promotion and a swift relegation back to EFL2 and possibly even further as we know has happened elsewhere simply because the finances to support our club in EFL1 were not in place.

At the moment our club continues to be supported financially in the main by the current owners. A comment from then on the excellent road path stated by the BoD would be most welcome which would provide some assurance for the long term financial stability of our club under their ownership.

Nobody wants what has happened to other clubs who found the financial burden too much to sustain and the unfortunate consequencies that followed. Hence why for me getting the financial foundations in place to secure longevity in EFL1 are so critical.

Promotion at any cost could be a road to ultimate disaster....something that nobody wishes to see especially myself and RRW...... surely we can agree on that..... :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Boardroom Update | New club vision & strategy

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:18 pm

Can somebody give Derek a bell and tell him to stop winning games? Neil doesn't want us to go up so lets give somebody else a chance! It would have been nice to see us in the play offs as well.
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Re: Boardroom Update | New club vision & strategy

Postby redrobo » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:36 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:Can somebody give Derek a bell and tell him to stop winning games? Neil doesn't want us to go up so lets give somebody else a chance! It would have been nice to see us in the play offs as well.


Of course I want us to get promoted but I don't want us to go up and then straight back down because the foundations of a secured life in EFL1 are not in place. Have we learned nothing from what has happened to other clubs who got promoted only for them to come straight back down again and then into the world of non league football.

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