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O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:38 am
by al1
Worcester staff/players to have wages cut by 25% from April 1st

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:14 am
by marky No.1
Strange saying 25%, would have expected 20% considering the government should be covering 80% - eventually!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51977863

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:43 am
by redrobo
Would be a superb gesture if our players volunteered to take a 20% pay cut to help their employer at this critical time for clubs and ours in particular.

:)

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:47 pm
by Phil Anderer
I suspect that the 80% will be of whatever is actually paid, not 80% of normal pay.

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:01 pm
by Keith
Maximum of £2,500 per month, so if players are on more than £36k then it doesn't cover 80%.

Also I guess the extra cut could be to cover other running costs?

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:59 pm
by mrpotatohead
Why should our players, who are paid less than the average bricky , in a very short career, do this Neil?

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:34 am
by redrobo
mrpotatohead wrote:Why should our players, who are paid less than the average bricky , in a very short career, do this Neil?


If the action is voluntary as suggested then why not..... :?: :?: :?:

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:58 am
by Phil Anderer
redrobo wrote:
mrpotatohead wrote:Why should our players, who are paid less than the average bricky , in a very short career, do this Neil?


If the action is voluntary as suggested then why not..... :?: :?: :?:


If the club only has to find 20% of their wages then hopefully there's no need.

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:22 pm
by marky No.1
Phil Anderer wrote:
redrobo wrote:
mrpotatohead wrote:Why should our players, who are paid less than the average bricky , in a very short career, do this Neil?


If the action is voluntary as suggested then why not..... :?: :?: :?:


If the club only has to find 20% of their wages then hopefully there's no need.


A few discussions about loan players no doubt

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:25 pm
by redrobo
Are we sure that the Government will cover 80% of wages in football.... :?: :?: :?:

May have missed it but can't recall them saying anything about football or other sports.

:?: :?: :?:

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:47 pm
by Brian S
redrobo wrote:Are we sure that the Government will cover 80% of wages in football.... :?: :?: :?:

May have missed it but can't recall them saying anything about football or other sports.

:?: :?: :?:

Why not :?:

Footballers are employees of a Ltd company like a vast number of other workers.

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:31 pm
by redrobo
Not saying that they will not BUT has anybody heard that footballers and sportsmen in general will qualify.

:?: :?: :?:

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:34 pm
by HALMA 1983
Brian S wrote:
redrobo wrote:Are we sure that the Government will cover 80% of wages in football.... :?: :?: :?:

May have missed it but can't recall them saying anything about football or other sports.

:?: :?: :?:

Why not :?:

Footballers are employees of a Ltd company like a vast number of other workers.


I think the Government are doing a great job in going over and above to cover the wages of well paid folk aswell as those less fortunate, Just as long as everyone taking this money, knows it'll be getting clawed back sometime in the future, they can't complain when it happens.

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:38 pm
by redrobo
The EFL announced a £50 million fund for its clubs but it is predicted that will only last for circa 4 weeks.

They expect a number of clubs with poor finances to go to the wall and that SKY are expected to not fulfill its TV financial package to the Premier League.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:57 pm
by HALMA 1983
The Premier league only care about their own needs and have said as much, like all other businesses, you either have the means to survive or you don't and that has now filtered down to every single person working or not.

Folk have never had it so good but they're about to find out just how difficult it was for their parents and grandparents, best be ready for a very basic lifestyle in the coming weeks and months.
No more T bones! you're on breast of lamb and corned beef hash from here on in, that's if you can still get it :?

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:25 pm
by Phil Anderer
redrobo wrote:Not saying that they will not BUT has anybody heard that footballers and sportsmen in general will qualify.

:?: :?: :?:


Has anyone anywhere suggested they won't be? As I understand it it's any employee and covers 80% of wages up to £2,500/month. I can see no reason whatsoever why they wouldn't be covered, unlike the self-employed like me & the mrs.

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:15 pm
by marky No.1

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:19 pm
by KenH
Phil Anderer wrote:Has anyone anywhere suggested they won't be? As I understand it it's any employee and covers 80% of wages up to £2,500/month. I can see no reason whatsoever why they wouldn't be covered, unlike the self-employed like me & the mrs.


Depends on whether they were paid fully as employees under PAYE. Maybe normal at smaller clubs like ours, but bigger clubs often pay players via their own personal service companies, offshore trusts, loan schemes, image rights, etc., so they won't get the 80%. I just don't know how common that is for the likes of our club where presumably wages are pretty low anyway so maybe not much scope for tax avoidance schemes?

Re: O/T Worcester Warriors

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:16 pm
by al1
Majority of WW players have now been furloughed.