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Jim does a magnifcent job on a small budget #143298742891

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:47 am
by SupermarketShrimp
Assuming this is true, this is what we are batting against.

http://www.celebritiesmoney.com/portsmo ... ad-salary/

I reckon you'd get our back four and change for one Nicky Shorey........

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:40 pm
by marky No.1
8 grand a week for League 2 :shock:

10 times as many home fans, so 10 times the money?

There again it is a pittance compared to £270K a week up the road

http://www.celebritiesmoney.com/arsenal ... nvincible/

and just 4 of Man Utd's forwards earn a million a week between them

http://www.celebritiesmoney.com/manches ... ion-euros/

goneshrimping wrote:I reckon you'd get our back four and change for one Nicky Shorey........


You may want to add the midfield as well, he earns nearly half as much as our budget!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:29 pm
by Wild Bill
Those wages are truly shocking. Premiership players earning 100,000s millions to kick a football around a couple of times per week. Why do we put up with this nonsense?

Any idea what our wages are? Looking at the Pompey ones I imagine more than we thought.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:52 pm
by Christies Child
Where abouts are they in the League.... :?: :?: :?:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

They are a League 2 club punching far below their weight and if I was a fan I'd be mighty pissed off.... :evil:

Must be the laughing stock of a lot of fellow League 2 fans....certainly are with me... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:29 pm
by SupermarketShrimp
Wild Bill wrote:Those wages are truly shocking. Premiership players earning 100,000s millions to kick a football around a couple of times per week. Why do we put up with this nonsense?
.


Because it's really not our problem what premier league players earn?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:47 pm
by Christies Child
goneshrimping wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:Those wages are truly shocking. Premiership players earning 100,000s millions to kick a football around a couple of times per week. Why do we put up with this nonsense?
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Because it's really not our problem what premier league players earn?[/quote]

Sorry to disagree but wages at all levels affect everybody

I assume we all think that Premiership players earn too much BUT what they earn encourages players at all levels to demand some sort of parity despite their abilities ( in the vast number of cases) being far below those of their Premiership counterparts. It's not the players fault for demanding more and more, it's the Premiership clubs who receive millions from sponsorship and the media with the players saying 'I want some of that'....and the clubs giving in to them in the search of limited success that fans demand. In short we as fans demand success and the players know it and they justify their demands by saying to clubs 'If you want success you have to pay me what I want'... :cry:

There has to be a time when clubs say 'enough is enough' BUT it's a long way off yet... :!: :!: :!:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:48 pm
by Seasider9601
goneshrimping wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:Those wages are truly shocking. Premiership players earning 100,000s millions to kick a football around a couple of times per week. Why do we put up with this nonsense?
.


Because it's really not our problem what premier league players earn?


It is when you compare to what, for example, NHS employees get paid for having to work well over their contracted hours, through their breaks etc etc

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:51 pm
by Shrimpy
Wild Bill wrote:Any idea what our wages are? Looking at the Pompey ones I imagine more than we thought.

If you add up all their yearly wages it comes out to roughly £3.5m which whilst massively over what the average League 2 club spends (rumoured to be about £1.6m) it's probably not too far from reality considering the attendances they get and size of the club.

Our wage bill is probably somewhere in the region of a quarter of the £3.5m that site claims Pompey are spending.

The year Swindon won the league with Di Canio as manager their playing budget was about the £3.5m mark.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:54 pm
by Shrimpy
Seasider9601 wrote:
goneshrimping wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:Those wages are truly shocking. Premiership players earning 100,000s millions to kick a football around a couple of times per week. Why do we put up with this nonsense?
.


Because it's really not our problem what premier league players earn?


It is when you compare to what, for example, NHS employees get paid for having to work well over their contracted hours, through their breaks etc etc

It's simple economics, Premier League plays earn the money they do because they generate that much money.

Whilst you won't get any arguments from me in terms of what you say about the NHS the harsh reality of it is you don't get millions of people subscribing to Sky Hospital at £40+ a month, walking around in replica scrubs with their favourite doctors name on the back and you don't get 60,000+ people paying £50+ every week to watch people perform surgery in a stadium.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:13 pm
by marky No.1
Shrimpy wrote:Our wage bill is probably somewhere in the region of a quarter of the £3.5m


Yes, I think ours was reduced to about £800K then went up a couple of quid, on a par with Dagenham and Exeter.

If a team like ours had an £900K budget with 23 playing staff it would be something like:

3 x £1200
5 x £1000
3 x £800
3 x £600
6 x £500
3 x £400

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:16 pm
by SupermarketShrimp
Seasider9601 wrote:
goneshrimping wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:Those wages are truly shocking. Premiership players earning 100,000s millions to kick a football around a couple of times per week. Why do we put up with this nonsense?
.


Because it's really not our problem what premier league players earn?


It is when you compare to what, for example, NHS employees get paid for having to work well over their contracted hours, through their breaks etc etc


If they wish to work over their contracted hours its their business.

Again it has no relevance on anything other than pure jealousy that some young kids get paid more money than we will ever see to play the game we love.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:26 pm
by Shrimpy
marky No.1 wrote:
Shrimpy wrote:Our wage bill is probably somewhere in the region of a quarter of the £3.5m


Yes, I think ours was reduced to about £800K then went up a couple of quid, on a par with Dagenham and Exeter.

If a team like ours had an £900K budget with 23 playing staff it would be something like:

3 x £1200
5 x £1000
3 x £800
3 x £600
6 x £500
3 x £400

Accrington claim to operate on a budget of £500k.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:30 pm
by marky No.1
Shrimpy wrote:Accrington claim to operate on a budget of £500k.


Think some of their players will be paid in groats

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:34 pm
by Kendalshrimp
No way they'd pay Nicky shorey that much at this stage of his career.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:02 pm
by SupermarketShrimp
Christies Child wrote:
goneshrimping wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:Those wages are truly shocking. Premiership players earning 100,000s millions to kick a football around a couple of times per week. Why do we put up with this nonsense?
.


Because it's really not our problem what premier league players earn?[/quote]

Sorry to disagree but wages at all levels affect everybody

I assume we all think that Premiership players earn too much BUT what they earn encourages players at all levels to demand some sort of parity despite their abilities ( in the vast number of cases) being far below those of their Premiership counterparts. It's not the players fault for demanding more and more, it's the Premiership clubs who receive millions from sponsorship and the media with the players saying 'I want some of that'....and the clubs giving in to them in the search of limited success that fans demand. In short we as fans demand success and the players know it and they justify their demands by saying to clubs 'If you want success you have to pay me what I want'... :cry:

There has to be a time when clubs say 'enough is enough' BUT it's a long way off yet... :!: :!: :!:


It takes chairman to say "I have this much money, so you can have this much". If we haven't got it, not our problem.

As I say, pure bitterness and jealously at people that earn decent money.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:15 pm
by Kendalshrimp
If someone can paid big money good luck to them as long as there earning it an not stealing it illegally. They might not be worth the money they get paid but so what, none of us would be moaning if work offered us a massive pay rise, get what you can while you can :D

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:29 pm
by Wild Bill
marky No.1 wrote:
Shrimpy wrote:Our wage bill is probably somewhere in the region of a quarter of the £3.5m


Yes, I think ours was reduced to about £800K then went up a couple of quid, on a par with Dagenham and Exeter.

If a team like ours had an £900K budget with 23 playing staff it would be something like:

3 x £1200
5 x £1000
3 x £800
3 x £600
6 x £500
3 x £400


Shocking to think that our lowest paid squad player probably gets the national average salary for sitting on the bench at a L2 ground in front of 1500 fans!

People say say why should we care what the Prem pays its players but it is obviously having a ripple down effect through the leagues. To compensate non-playing staff's wages get squeezed, ticket prices go up, clubs go in to administration and ultimately we all suffer.

Re: Jim does a magnifcent job on a small budget #14329874289

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:24 pm
by Shrimpy
Wild Bill wrote:
marky No.1 wrote:
Shrimpy wrote:Our wage bill is probably somewhere in the region of a quarter of the £3.5m


Yes, I think ours was reduced to about £800K then went up a couple of quid, on a par with Dagenham and Exeter.

If a team like ours had an £900K budget with 23 playing staff it would be something like:

3 x £1200
5 x £1000
3 x £800
3 x £600
6 x £500
3 x £400


Shocking to think that our lowest paid squad player probably gets the national average salary for sitting on the bench at a L2 ground in front of 1500 fans!

People say say why should we care what the Prem pays its players but it is obviously having a ripple down effect through the leagues. To compensate non-playing staff's wages get squeezed, ticket prices go up, clubs go in to administration and ultimately we all suffer.

No one is forcing lower league clubs to pay these wages.