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Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:08 pm
by Christies Child
Oh what i wouldn't give to have him available at the moment.

Is he getting a game at Burton...if not ?????????????

:?: :?: :?: :?:

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:23 pm
by cultured
So, now we'd like to sign someone who can't get into the front line of a conference club?

I'm sure Ryan Sugden is available if we want him too and want to go the whole hog.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:26 pm
by Duffman
Get Rogan on!............ :o

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:32 pm
by Abbo
Newby should not have been let go in the first place, Howe and Newby up front would have been a good partnership.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:35 pm
by Christies Child
cultured wrote:So, now we'd like to sign someone who can't get into the front line of a conference club?

I'm sure Ryan Sugden is available if we want him too and want to go the whole hog.



Last seasons top goal scorer.....!!!!!!!!

Sammy keeps on about getting a loan player in ......well at least we know what he can do.

With only 2 strikers available until RH and WC return in 2 / 3 weeks JN would be the ideal solution.

Yes????????

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:51 pm
by Pandashrimp
No!!!!!!!!!! Don't get me wrong he did a job last year but he's gone now, and in the end i believe rightfully so. We are short of options up top but O'Carroll should now be given a fair run in the team, his link up play is far better than Newby's and although our one other fit striking option is unexperienced, i don't think bringing back a journeyman who isn't playing for Burton and was thrown out by Southport is the right option.

Mcgivern was the best bit of business Sammy has done sinced Baker. More of the same please. There must be loads of hungry higher league forwards desperate for a few run outs, who we could afford a months salary of. FORWARD NOT BACK

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:09 pm
by Christies Child
Pandashrimp wrote:No!!!!!!!!!! Don't get me wrong he did a job last year but he's gone now, and in the end i believe rightfully so. We are short of options up top but O'Carroll should now be given a fair run in the team, his link up play is far better than Newby's and although our one other fit striking option is unexperienced, i don't think bringing back a journeyman who isn't playing for Burton and was thrown out by Southport is the right option.

Mcgivern was the best bit of business Sammy has done sinced Baker. More of the same please. There must be loads of hungry higher league forwards desperate for a few run outs, who we could afford a months salary of. FORWARD NOT BACK


Welcome to the Forum Pandashrimp.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:23 pm
by Pandashrimp
:lol: My good friend negative Ned advised me to register. ;)

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:44 pm
by Christies Child
Pandashrimp wrote::lol: My good friend negative Ned advised me to register. ;)


You must be his ONLY friend then....????

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:43 pm
by Number 1
Jon Newby has gone. Get over it. He hasn't gone anywhere higher, and isn't knocking them in for anyone else at the moment, so the decision to release him was obviously the correct one. Why do people suddenly think that all of a sudden he's a world beater? He had a good goals ratio, but over a full season, didn't really cut the mustard.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:45 pm
by thegentlegiant
Jon Newby was a good player 4 us but we require a better striker someone who will demand the ball up front...Lets get a player from championship or prem.!!!

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:52 pm
by campdave
thegentlegiant wrote:Jon Newby was a good player 4 us but we require a better striker someone who will demand the ball up front...Lets get a player from championship or prem.!!!


Carlos Tevez isn't playing much at the minute

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:55 pm
by Abbo
I havnt seen Howe, O'Carroll,Taylor or Blinkhorn (when fit }banging the goals in this season and i think Newbs would have done a job for the team

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:40 am
by cultured
Christies Child wrote:
cultured wrote:So, now we'd like to sign someone who can't get into the front line of a conference club?

I'm sure Ryan Sugden is available if we want him too and want to go the whole hog.



Last seasons top goal scorer.....!!!!!!!!

Sammy keeps on about getting a loan player in ......well at least we know what he can do.

With only 2 strikers available until RH and WC return in 2 / 3 weeks JN would be the ideal solution.

Yes????????


No.

Last season - 11 appearances(21 as sub) 6 goals - 3 againsta Rotherham side that hadn't been paid in months and had tossed it off, 3 goals the other 30 - one against Darlo (OK did well) Wrexham (relegated) Grimsby (after season was over)

This season - 6 starts 8 as sub between Morton and Burton - 1 goal.

Hardly the prolific striker we need. Surely we can borrow someone who might turn out to be not good enough, rather than hire someone we know isn't good enough.

I'm sure Jim McLuskeys free also, tell him to bring his boots?

Again I'll say this. Trust Sammy. We've not released anyone who's turned out to be of any use, yes we're bringing in a few more that aren't much better, but I'd much rather try players than stick with the same ones that aren't good enough.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:07 pm
by marky No.1
[quote="thegentlegiant"]Jon Newby was a good player 4 us but we require a better striker someone who will demand the ball up front...Lets get a player from championship or prem.!!![/quote]

Are you on the right bus??? :lol:

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:12 pm
by The Fury
cultured wrote:
Christies Child wrote:
cultured wrote:So, now we'd like to sign someone who can't get into the front line of a conference club?

I'm sure Ryan Sugden is available if we want him too and want to go the whole hog.



Last seasons top goal scorer.....!!!!!!!!

Sammy keeps on about getting a loan player in ......well at least we know what he can do.

With only 2 strikers available until RH and WC return in 2 / 3 weeks JN would be the ideal solution.

Yes????????


No.

Last season - 11 appearances(21 as sub) 6 goals - 3 againsta Rotherham side that hadn't been paid in months and had tossed it off, 3 goals the other 30 - one against Darlo (OK did well) Wrexham (relegated) Grimsby (after season was over)

This season - 6 starts 8 as sub between Morton and Burton - 1 goal.

Hardly the prolific striker we need. Surely we can borrow someone who might turn out to be not good enough, rather than hire someone we know isn't good enough.

I'm sure Jim McLuskeys free also, tell him to bring his boots?

Again I'll say this. Trust Sammy. We've not released anyone who's turned out to be of any use, yes we're bringing in a few more that aren't much better, but I'd much rather try players than stick with the same ones that aren't good enough.


Your stats suit your own agenda. You neglect to include goals in all competitions which, the last time I checked, were still classed as competitive games. In that case, he scored 10 goals in a total of 16 starts.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:16 pm
by cultured
Yes, I didn't include the Johnstone Paints Trophy. Whilst competitive games, it is rare that these are the same intensity as a proper league tie, and often against weakened sides. You can have the wolves goal.

Shouting that he is our top scorer last season with ten (the majority against poor or weakened sides) is like 2 bald men fighting over a comb.

Neil Mellor would score a few, does he get a game at Preston? Is that where he still is? As I say, get someone in who may or may not be good enough, not someone we know isn't good enough.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:32 pm
by Moose
11 Goals last season for Mr. Newbs.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:38 pm
by campdave
The Fury wrote:
Your stats suit your own agenda. You neglect to include goals in all competitions which, the last time I checked, were still classed as competitive games. In that case, he scored 10 goals in a total of 16 starts.


But that means your stats are also flawed - he definitely scored aganist Wrexham as a sub, so how many of his 10 goals came in his 16 starts?

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:55 pm
by Christies Child
cultured wrote:Yes, I didn't include the Johnstone Paints Trophy. Whilst competitive games, it is rare that these are the same intensity as a proper league tie, and often against weakened sides. You can have the wolves goal.

Shouting that he is our top scorer last season with ten (the majority against poor or weakened sides) is like 2 bald men fighting over a comb.

Neil Mellor would score a few, does he get a game at Preston? Is that where he still is? As I say, get someone in who may or may not be good enough, not someone we know isn't good enough.


Purely a personal opinion, but JN is as good if not better then any of our present options for this coming Saturday's game.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:57 pm
by HALMA 1983
I fully agree and said it at the time, Newby should have stayed

There's a few others i'd of offloaded before him or never bought in the first place!

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:37 pm
by heysham_mfc
we need another Amr Zaki :roll:

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:24 pm
by BHmfc
I would have Newby back today, never mind tomorrow. If i was a betting man (which i'm not) i would wager a bet that nobody in our current squad will hit double figures in all competitions this season, so like him or not, Mr Newby, with so few starts last season, must have been doing something right.

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:25 am
by cultured
Christies Child wrote:
cultured wrote:Yes, I didn't include the Johnstone Paints Trophy. Whilst competitive games, it is rare that these are the same intensity as a proper league tie, and often against weakened sides. You can have the wolves goal.

Shouting that he is our top scorer last season with ten (the majority against poor or weakened sides) is like 2 bald men fighting over a comb.

Neil Mellor would score a few, does he get a game at Preston? Is that where he still is? As I say, get someone in who may or may not be good enough, not someone we know isn't good enough.


Purely a personal opinion, but JN is as good if not better then any of our present options for this coming Saturday's game.


You don't seem to getting my point. That's a bit like saying that because I'm better than you I should play for Morecambe when neither of us are good enough.

None of the options other than Howe and Taylor in 3 years times we currently have are good enough. Jon Newby may or may not be better than the other options we have, but he isn't good enough either. So why sign someone who isn't good enough, because he's a bit better than what we've got?

Re: Jon Newby

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:46 pm
by Abbo
Cultured wrote,
Jon Newby may or may not be better than the other options we have, but he isn't good enough either. So why sign someone who isn't good enough, because he's a bit better than what we've got ?
I think you aswered your own question there, anything is better than what we have this season, and as i have said in previous posts Newbs did a good job last season a i do believe he would have carried on this season playing alongside Howe.