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This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:45 am
by SupermarketShrimp
Is a chuffing nightmare. The http address doesn't update making it a ballache to copy and paste stuff, and when I try and follow a link that someone's posted, like Youtube for example, the address bar still says "www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk" making it very hard to send to my mates if I find it entertaining.

This is the only website it does it on - is it an SV thing or a Firefox thing?

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:52 am
by Squaddie_Shrimp
I have the same problem with Firefox! its a chuffin' nightmare sometimes.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:55 am
by Duffman
It's an SV thing. The actual website address is ttpics.co.uk/shrimpsvoices. When using the shrimpsvoices.co.uk address, you're actually viewing the website in what's called a frame. I don't know why/how it has been setup like that but, to put it simply, when viewing the website in a frame the address will never change in the address bar.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:20 pm
by SupermarketShrimp
Can it be sorted? I'm not downloading IE just to read SV.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:21 pm
by Keith
I set it up at the time because I thought it looked neater with http://www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk rather than have the actual URL as mentioned above. For example, this thread is actually
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10890 (edit: it's automatically shortened)

If you right click on 'Board Index'>Open in New Tab you can then navigate normally, outside the URL mask. If you then update your book mark, you won't see the shrimpsvoices.co.uk again. Alternatively, http://www.shrimpsvoices.com is not masked and will operate normally. I find it aesthetically pleasing but the choice is yours.

It *should* be the same in IE, so I'd not waste your time.
Also, any links, just >Right Click>Open in New Tab/Window will work. I use multiple tabs all the time, so don't even think about it now.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:28 pm
by SupermarketShrimp
Also, nearly all the sites I get directed to from here, mainly ones regarding other teams reports, you can't go "back" a page, it keeps you stuck on that page unless you click about 30 times so I assume the website can work out you are trying to get off it. I don't know if I've explained that well enough.

Is that this place or their place being some horrible website?? It's usually any club with one of those websites that you get for free off Football World or something.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:28 pm
by Heysham_red
or hold the CTRL button and press the link. it has become second nature for me now (not just on here but pretty much every link I want to open) I no longer have any problems reading the board on my phone now too since I moved from iOS to Android. Stupid Apple. ;)

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:21 pm
by Gnasher
goneshrimping wrote:Also, nearly all the sites I get directed to from here, mainly ones regarding other teams reports, you can't go "back" a page, it keeps you stuck on that page unless you click about 30 times so I assume the website can work out you are trying to get off it. I don't know if I've explained that well enough.

Is that this place or their place being some horrible website?? It's usually any club with one of those websites that you get for free off Football World or something.


One way to think of it is .. you've got a TV without a remote control and all the controls are on the frame around the screen. You don't like the black frame that the TV came with so you put a blue frame in front of it but that means you can't get to the controls. The other web sites are the blue frame, they let you surf to this web site but without the controls you would get if you simply typed in the address.

As for how all this framing actually works and whether you need to remember to type www.ttpics.co.uk/shrimpsvoices all the time, all I'll say is it used to work fine :roll:

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:29 pm
by Posh
Keith wrote:I find it aesthetically pleasing but the choice is yours.


For someone who manages domains, DNS and search marketing that is very very funny. To me it doesn't matter as I, like others, know how it works. However in an ideal world the board should be setup under its own domain www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk as it is very confusing for people who want to bookmark threads, forward them on, link to them on social media etc. You also get the problem that links from SV also use the SV domain even after clicking numerous pages. Finally it's stopped the site being effectively optimised. The old site used to get a lot of visits through search based on topic names but this doesn't happen now. There are other reasons for this but its one of them. The effect is to push search results for SV down the ranking because almost every link Google reads says shrimpsvoices.co.uk but instead the domain is actually www.ttpics.co.uk.

This is what Google reads from Shrimpsvoices http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=+site: ... 35803d42c7

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:43 pm
by Keith
Okay... so how do I have multiple domains hosted on this package (which is the one Brian recommended years ago). I'm using the sHT2 which is US$108 per year.

I have www.ttpics.co.uk then as sub-domains, www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk, www.royalresidence.org & www.cabarete.org Can I, with that package, have all of them as domains in their own right, rather than as a sub-domain of ttpics?

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:56 pm
by Gnasher
Again? IIRC, you're using 123-reg for the .co.uk domain. The process is to change the nameservers at 123-reg to use the nameservers hasweb gave you on signup. I can't tell you what they are because our accounts are on different servers and each shared server has it's own nameservers. Then set the domain up in your hasweb control panel as an add-on domain with the /shrimpsvoices folder as the document root. When DNS settles down, you will need to re-configure the forum software to use www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk as the root so all links are generated as www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk instead of www.ttpics.co.uk/shrimpsvoices.

I don't know if you can repeat the exercise with the .com address, I'd just change the re-direct on that to shrimpsvoices.co.uk.

The same should work for each domain you want to host in your ttpics account, going back to the .com comment I think the only restriction is one domain per folder. The only one you can't mess with is ttpics.co.uk, that's the root domain of your account.

That's how it was set up a while ago and that's how www.morecambelife.co.uk works.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:00 pm
by Gnasher
P.S. Your account should give you an unlimited number of add-on domains as well as the terrabyte of storage, unlimited bandwidth, etc.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:00 pm
by burple
sorry but having the http://www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk/ stay the same is mega mega mega annoying IMO

I've lost count the amount of times I've clicked refresh (in Internet Explorer)... been booted out back to the front page of the forum and had to re naviagate back to the thread I was reading then screamed FOR F*CKS SAKE THIS TW@TING FORUM. Struggle linking specific threads to other forums etc

Also on an iPhone you cant click back this is a pain in the arse too

sorry

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:03 pm
by Keith
Gnasher wrote:That's how it was set up a while ago and that's how http://www.morecambelife.co.uk works.


When I click on the link it doesn't say http://www.morecambelife it still says shrimpsvoices.co.uk...

:roll:

I moved everything on to the one server, previously I had http://www.cabarete.org & http://www.royalresidence.org registered & hosted with 123-reg. Moving them was a mistake because I lost the google rankings which was a disaster, in particular for http://www.cabarete.org Ho hum. So they are all registered in the same place now.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:04 pm
by Gnasher
Hmm, you may be able to add the .com address as an add-on domain as well. I appear to have two domains on my account pointing to the same folder however, I don't think the forum software will support 2 domain names, just 1.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:07 pm
by Keith
burple wrote:sorry but having the http://www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk/ stay the same is mega mega mega annoying IMO

I've lost count the amount of times I've clicked refresh (in Internet Explorer)... been booted out back to the front page of the forum and had to re naviagate back to the thread I was reading then screamed FOR F*CKS SAKE THIS TW@TING FORUM. Struggle linking specific threads to other forums etc

Also on an iPhone you cant click back this is a pain in the arse too

sorry


If I'd known it was causing that much trouble...






...I'd have laughed and claimed I'd done it on purpose! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay, if Brian & Michael (when they stop singing 'Matchstick Men and Matchstick Cats and Dogs') can explain, in steps that are easy enough for my cat to follow, how to change things, then I'll sort it. But if the whole lot disappears in to a big black hole, you brought it upon yourself!

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:08 pm
by burple
awwwwww thanks you big hunk of love hmmmmmmmmm


hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:09 pm
by Gnasher
Keith wrote:
Gnasher wrote:That's how it was set up a while ago and that's how http://www.morecambelife.co.uk works.


When I click on the link it doesn't say http://www.morecambelife it still says shrimpsvoices.co.uk...

:roll:

Nice try :lol:

Keith wrote:
Gnasher wrote:I moved everything on to the one server, previously I had http://www.cabarete.org & http://www.royalresidence.org registered & hosted with 123-reg. Moving them was a mistake because I lost the google rankings which was a disaster, in particular for http://www.cabarete.org Ho hum. So they are all registered in the same place now.

Changing the nameservers to use hasweb then setting them up as addon domains shouldn't touch the rankings, effectively they're configured the same just with another host. If you've set them up as subdomains, that might have hit the rankings.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:12 pm
by shrimper
Keith wrote:
burple wrote:sorry but having the http://www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk/ stay the same is mega mega mega annoying IMO

I've lost count the amount of times I've clicked refresh (in Internet Explorer)... been booted out back to the front page of the forum and had to re naviagate back to the thread I was reading then screamed FOR F*CKS SAKE THIS TW@TING FORUM. Struggle linking specific threads to other forums etc

Also on an iPhone you cant click back this is a pain in the arse too

sorry


If I'd known it was causing that much trouble...






...I'd have laughed and claimed I'd done it on purpose! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay, if Brian & Michael (when they stop singing 'Matchstick Men and Matchstick Cats and Dogs') can explain, in steps that are easy enough for my cat to follow, how to change things, then I'll sort it. But if the whole lot disappears in to a big black hole, you brought it upon yourself!



Dooooh! - sneaky edit! I was just going to tell you about their helfpul explanatory guide!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb4y6lQCPbY

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:16 pm
by Gnasher
Keith wrote:
burple wrote:sorry but having the http://www.shrimpsvoices.co.uk/ stay the same is mega mega mega annoying IMO

I've lost count the amount of times I've clicked refresh (in Internet Explorer)... been booted out back to the front page of the forum and had to re naviagate back to the thread I was reading then screamed FOR F*CKS SAKE THIS TW@TING FORUM. Struggle linking specific threads to other forums etc

Also on an iPhone you cant click back this is a pain in the arse too

sorry


If I'd known it was causing that much trouble...






...I'd have laughed and claimed I'd done it on purpose! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay, if Brian & Michael (when they stop singing 'Matchstick Men and Matchstick Cats and Dogs') can explain, in steps that are easy enough for my cat to follow, how to change things, then I'll sort it. But if the whole lot disappears in to a big black hole, you brought it upon yourself!

OK, here's some clear instructions:

The Cat
--------
Ask Keith for his hasweb and 123-reg usernames and passwords.
Check the hasweb forums for the list of nameservers or submit a ticket to hasweb asking them
for the nameservers for your ttpics.co.uk account.
Login to the 123-reg.co.uk control panel
Change the nameservers to the hasweb nameservers.
This has to be done before your control panel will add the domain as an addon
Login to the hasweb control panel
Click on Addon Domains
New Domain Name : Shrimpsvoices
Subdomain username : make one up
Document Root : /shrimpsvoices
Password : make one up
Password (Again) : try and remember what you typed above
Click Add Domain
Cross your paws

Keith
-----
Feed the cat.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:27 pm
by Keith
My technical support has just responded with an e-mail that concluded with...

I'd suggest leaving the domain changes until the season's over and everyone buggers off on holiday ;-)


I'm inclined to agree! Wholesale tidy up in July so it will be nice and shiny next season... promise!

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:29 pm
by Gnasher
Technical Support is buggering off in a few minutes as well, have a good weekend :lol:

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:35 pm
by Lloydie
Keith wrote:My technical support has just responded with an e-mail that concluded with...

I'd suggest leaving the domain changes until the season's over and everyone buggers off on holiday ;-)


I'm inclined to agree! Wholesale tidy up in July so it will be nice and shiny next season... promise!


If we get relegated the forum would of probably crashed by then anyway :lol:

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:58 pm
by Old Man Kensey
I've used Opera for ages now without any problems.

http://www.opera.com/download/

Worth a try over firefox.

Re: This forum in Firefox

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:20 pm
by RedRedWine1
I can't believe I got called for being a bean counter on here the other day... gimpy mo-fo's

Anyway tech heads, I've actually got a problem and rather than start my own thread like CC used to I thought I'd add it to this one. Every time I click on a youtube link I get momentarily directed to the video, before being redirected to the youtube homepage where you type in a search for the content that you want. If you click back it just keeps redirecting you to the homepage. Any ideas? I have searched the web for answers but found little information of use.