Shrimpsvoices

Having watched the recent big fat gypsy wedding show, and employed a very hard working traveller recently, and observed the massive skive culture we have in this great country, i am at odds about who works harder, funny how people in fear of their own jobs are able to trim jobs at office level, i view civil servants and lax border controls as our main problem, discuss

NIC and Tax may be more of a key to the versus discussion. If you are talking about a contribution to the country and its welfare.

civil servants toss it off year in year out, get layed off when the the country struggles , early retirement or whatever on masssivve pensions, the real world is hitting them now as we are heading to the third world at a rapid rate