O/T England World Cup thread

[shrimper]

The starting XI ought to be set in stone.
It ain't, nobody has a clue.
Could be the strategy, but doubt it.
There will be trouble ahead.

Capello had a pretty good 'clue' in the qualifiers and, injuries aside, he has had it fixed in his mind for ages. He's given others the chance to prove themselves but he knows his 11 and it won't be far off what we're suggesting.

outsider - That's my team as well - I just think he may change it in the knockouts where midfield is going to be the key.

[shrimper]

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Brazil and Spain are just a bit better than everyone else but, as others have rightly said, the best team doesn't always win (look at Italy last time as a recent example).

We have as much chance as about six or seven others just behind those two.
Gerrard's issues have, I believe been specifically at Liverpool and I think we'll see him back to form once he's out of the country.

BUT..... my tip is Argentina. I know how they've rattled along through qualifying and Maradona's clueless as a coach but I just think they have so many players who, come the occasion, can turn it on. I think they can gel with or without their batty manager and just pull it all together for this tournament. Their big flaw is a lack of height but on the deck they can outbattle and outplay most.

I have bets on Messi and Tevez as top-scorers in doubles with Argentina to win it (33/1 and 150/1).
Oh - and don't read too much into any friendlies - ever!

OUCH!!! I did consider Higuain but was worried Maradona may play Aguero instead. Why didin't I just stick a couple of quid on??

[darrenlock]

Wow France lost 2-0 out of World Cup without scoring omg why no Benzema in 23 man sqaud looked so soft in center midfield .

Bring back Zidane

[heysham_mfc]

South Africa V France next week both team could be out of the World Cup before they kick a ball maybe a change in manager for france.

[Harry]

They couldn't, as each team's 3rd game is played at the same time as everyone else in their group

[P/T Indie]

Danny Baker on BBC 1 seems convinced France will still get through

[shrimper]

Danny Baker on BBC 1 seems convinced France will still get through

Aye, I love the bloke but I don't know what he was on tonight. Said Spain would go out at group stage as well!

France should beat SA but will go out because... either Uruguay and Mexico will concoct a draw, or Uruguay will win and it'll go down to Mexico's result against France (if that's still how it works).

[wijit]

I think france's manager is already leaving, did he not announce it before the finals?
I've still not seen a game where I've thought "we can't beat them".
I still believe!

[durhamshrimp]

Danny Baker on BBC 1 seems convinced France will still get through

Aye, I love the bloke but I don't know what he was on tonight. Said Spain would go out at group stage as well!

France should beat SA but will go out because... either Uruguay and Mexico will concoct a draw, or Uruguay will win and it'll go down to Mexico's result against France (if that's still how it works).

Almost. The rules to decided group places are first points, then goal difference, then goals scored, then head to head, then drawing lots!

So if France win by a few goals and the other game isn't a draw then they could go through on goal difference. I don't think it will happen though, I think they're out.

[Keith]

we're *hit and we know we are, we're *hit and we know we are...

Obviously, second half we'll score a couple and obviously be back on to be World Cup Winners











...again!

[shrimpnsave]

we're *hit and we know we are, we're *hit and we know we are...

Obviously, second half we'll score a couple and obviously be back on to be World Cup Winners



this is once again a dire performance up to now....







...again!

[Keith]

Obviously, second half we'll score a couple and obviously be back on to be World Cup Winners

or we'll just be *hit?

Did anyone else start to hope England wouldn't score simply because Algeria were the better side and didn't deserve to lose?

[shrimpnsave]

Obviously, second half we'll score a couple and obviously be back on to be World Cup Winners

or we'll just be *hit?

Did anyone else start to hope England wouldn't score simply because Algeria were the better side and didn't deserve to lose?

YES....

[Keith]

Won't get past the 1st Round.

Put your money where your mouth is!

I'll have as much as you like on that one, Peter.

So Shrimper, where are you sending Peter on his next holiday?

[shrimpnsave]

I can see cracks in the interview with Capello

and not just his face.....

[outsider]

I was hoping they would win, that way it would end our 2 yearly self delusion that we are a good team.

[Christies Child]

...overpaid tossers..the whole bloody lot of 'em.

[shrimpnsave]

...overpaid tossers..the whole bloody lot of 'em.

agreed

dya know what the top earner is on...?

[heysham_mfc]

Awful tonight should have won easily when you campare the squad. Capello had all the excuses in the post match interview.

[ockers]

itvs coverage bollocks
gerrards reaction bollocks
tactics bollocks
team selection bollocks
mental attitude bollocks
overated ability so bollocks
capello bollocks go now

Gareth Barry Emile Heskey Aaron Lennon Frank Lampard utter utter utter bollocks

get capello out and redknapp in

enjoyed the coverage of the bird on 12 mins though.............

my asda pizza tea though was the dogs bollocks!!!


rant over.grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[marky]

Did anyone else start to hope England wouldn't score simply because Algeria were the better side and didn't deserve to lose?

There was certainly a part of me that wanted them to score because they were streets ahead of England with regard skill and ability. For all their skill, they sadly seemed a little lost in the final third which is perhaps why they've struggled so much of late. The less said about England, the better. Yes, the players were woeful but this is the second match in which Capello's got his substitutions and starting line-up horribly horribly wrong. Clearly been taking lessons from the Northern Irish on that front

[shrimpnsave]

rooney is a prick...dickhead and a tosser

[P/T Indie]

Algeria deservaed a goal they played good football, out passed us, deff out tackled us (how many times did they just walk up to an England player and take the ball off them), they ran into space and tried to make things happen everything we didn't do all we did was pass it back to the keeper.

Thank God for England Algeria have no quality in the final third (a bit like England) but for all their effort and possesion they deserved a goal. I thought at least if Algeria score we will have to start trying to attack.

As for Rooney those supporters have prob paid at least £5000 at least to go to the world cup they have every right to boo and out of all the players Roney was prob the worst he lost the ball so much.

[marky No.1]

Pub team and thats being kind. The Scotsman in the raghead was awesome. Thank the lord for the dogs tmrw. Yes Les it must be you!

[Blackpool Shrimp]

no heart and no passion in the whole team....overpaid and overrated - The main reason i have no interest in watching the world cup..oh well only 36 days to go till the York city game can't wait