Fans forum due in December 2024

Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Redalert1970 » Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:23 am

Personally think Jason will be in charge this time next year

Don't think the sale is any closer than it was last week last month or last year
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby black morse » Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:01 am

Redalert1970 wrote:Personally think Jason will be in charge this time next year

Don't think the sale is any closer than it was last week last month or last year


I don't think we'll survive another summer like last season. It's the new year and time for the 1920 Union and the Shrimps Trust to start exerting the pressure on Jason again.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Redalert1970 » Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:08 am

Totally agree about keeping the pressure on Jason but unless the sale goes through or we get another buyer we are stuck with him that's the biggest problem
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Andy D » Fri Jan 03, 2025 1:45 pm

i expect Jason to still be in charge next season, with many not renewing their season tickets, and playing in the conference with the possibility of two back to back relegations.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Billy bodger » Fri Jan 03, 2025 3:40 pm

black morse wrote:
Redalert1970 wrote:Personally think Jason will be in charge this time next year

Don't think the sale is any closer than it was last week last month or last year


I don't think we'll survive another summer like last season. It's the new year and time for the 1920 Union and the Shrimps Trust to start exerting the pressure on Jason again.


It was mentioned last at last nights meeting that the 1920 union needs to carry on shaming Jason. I think the Shrimps Trust unfortunately has to be careful what it says and doesn’t say, but it can carry on calling for Jason to act responsibly while he is still the owner. :roll: :roll:.

Yes I think Jason came out from his hibernation to go on talk sport after a few things the 1920 Union did but basically that was it. In the end the pitch of the criticism and shaming of Jason has to be at the right level in the right place ensuring getting our plight out into the general media and it won’t do any harm.

Again the prospective owner is very quite about what is happing their so again no harm if something is done on bring him and his associates out from their hide hole as well.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Billy bodger » Fri Jan 03, 2025 3:43 pm

Andy D wrote:i expect Jason to still be in charge next season, with many not renewing their season tickets, and playing in the conference with the possibility of two back to back relegations.


It was mentioned last night by the BOD’s that Intrested parties are still contacting them about buying the Club, unfortunately all they can do is put them in touch with Jason and that is as far as it goes. It seems Jason is still set on selling to his preferred buyer, even after all these months!!
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Andy D » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:07 pm

Billy bodger wrote:
Andy D wrote:i expect Jason to still be in charge next season, with many not renewing their season tickets, and playing in the conference with the possibility of two back to back relegations.


It was mentioned last night by the BOD’s that Intrested parties are still contacting them about buying the Club, unfortunately all they can do is put them in touch with Jason and that is as far as it goes. It seems Jason is still set on selling to his preferred buyer, even after all these months!!



this gets me, back from what exactly? the conference and back to back relegations? i would rather go into administration this season and start next season in the conference with a clean slate and no Jason and a realistic asking price for a credible buyer.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby redrobo » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:09 pm

Only my thoughts but I wonder if part of Jason's requires any buyer to finance the purchase and future investments has to be via the Bond Group of which he is part of.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby P/T Indie » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:44 pm

I agree Andy D go into administration and hopefully someone like the person that contacted the Shrimps Trust who was potential buyer could pick us up on the cheap.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Billy bodger » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:47 pm

Andy D wrote:
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Andy D wrote:i expect Jason to still be in charge next season, with many not renewing their season tickets, and playing in the conference with the possibility of two back to back relegations.


It was mentioned last night by the BOD’s that Intrested parties are still contacting them about buying the Club, unfortunately all they can do is put them in touch with Jason and that is as far as it goes. It seems Jason is still set on selling to his preferred buyer, even after all these months!!



this gets me, back from what exactly? the conference and back to back relegations? i would rather go into administration this season and start next season in the conference with a clean slate and no Jason and a realistic asking price for a credible buyer.


Really! can you expand on what you have put? I would like to know why and how you think things will workout so much better, if we go into administration just to get rid of Jason. Is it really as easy as you paint? You might turn a few sceptics who believe it will completely ruin the Club. Is it so easy as in your statement.

There are those as was said last night who think it would be a bad move.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Wild Bill » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:57 pm

Fair play to the board for coming out again and putting themselves in the firing line. It does though feel like groundhog day with no end in sight.

Jason really has got us all tied around his finger. I good natured and dedicated board, running the club for free and loyal fanbase that generally keeps supporting the club. You wonder what would happen though if one of these elements was removed?
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby twosheds » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:58 pm

Billy bodger wrote:
Andy D wrote:i expect Jason to still be in charge next season, with many not renewing their season tickets, and playing in the conference with the possibility of two back to back relegations.


It was mentioned last night by the BOD’s that Intrested parties are still contacting them about buying the Club, unfortunately all they can do is put them in touch with Jason and that is as far as it goes. It seems Jason is still set on selling to his preferred buyer, even after all these months!!


I think Graham said this...

"When asked about other potential buyers, Mr Howse said: "We get a lot of 'tyre-kickers' trying to get information out of the football club.

"Some have made offers that are ridiculous, high or low. There has been a lot of time-wasting from people who don't have the wherewithal to buy the club."
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Hodgie1978 » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:58 pm

Administration has pros and cons- yes it would get rid of Jason and we do start on a clean slate bur it would also mean good people lose their jobs, Academy status will change and I could be wrong but would it not affect our boards personal businesses?
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Billy bodger » Fri Jan 03, 2025 5:03 pm

P/T Indie wrote:I agree Andy D go into administration and hopefully someone like the person that contacted the Shrimps Trust who was potential buyer could pick us up on the cheap.


How do others put us into administration, our BOD’s are not going to do it. So without Jason doing it or Jason stopping it from happening this season?

From what was said last night, yes we will probably be running at a loss but one that isn’t manageable, so administration is far off is my impression from what we are told

From all accounts our local health Trust is running at a loss that is far, far more than larger than our losses, that’s more scary.

If we go into administration and it’s not sorted out do the National League or any other non league, League have to automatically accept us?
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Billy bodger » Fri Jan 03, 2025 5:06 pm

twosheds wrote:
Billy bodger wrote:
Andy D wrote:i expect Jason to still be in charge next season, with many not renewing their season tickets, and playing in the conference with the possibility of two back to back relegations.


It was mentioned last night by the BOD’s that Intrested parties are still contacting them about buying the Club, unfortunately all they can do is put them in touch with Jason and that is as far as it goes. It seems Jason is still set on selling to his preferred buyer, even after all these months!!


I think Graham said this...

"When asked about other potential buyers, Mr Howse said: "We get a lot of 'tyre-kickers' trying to get information out of the football club.

"Some have made offers that are ridiculous, high or low. There has been a lot of time-wasting from people who don't have the wherewithal to buy the club."


Yes that was part of what Graham said, which is worrying we are attracting “tyre-kickers” but he went on to say all they can do is put them into touch with Jason.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Billy bodger » Fri Jan 03, 2025 5:10 pm

Andy D, the Conference League changed its name to the National League back in 2015!
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby BerlinWaller » Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:21 pm

I attended last night and came away thinking itbwas a worthwhile evening. The people representing the club answered all the questions asked and went in to some detail. Hands were held up regarding the punishments and the way the Chelsea tickets were organised
The ownership stuff was quite predictable and I think most of us know what the situation is anyways.

It went better than I thought it would and hopefully the club keep their word and hold another towards the end of the season.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby twosheds » Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:44 pm

Just posted on the OWS....but I can't find any link to watch the video of the meeting...

https://www.morecambefc.com/news/2025/j ... uary-2024/
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Keith » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:46 pm

Billy bodger wrote:If we go into administration and it’s not sorted out do the National League... ...have to automatically accept us?


Unless the rules changed, yes, it was part of the original agreement for automatic promotion & relegation.

I think if we reach a point where relegation is inevitable, then Administration is the best way forwards. Look at how much York have just paid for a forward. If we go into the National League in the same ownership mess as we were at the start of this season, we could go down again. Get rid of the parasite.

But, if we manage to stay in the League, then Administration would destroy us.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Billy bodger » Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:04 pm

So say administrators come in near the end of the season when it’s guaranteed we are already relegated,(My God I hope it doesn’t happen). The administrators would come in and try to recoup money through any assets we have, would there be enough time for it all to be sorted before the start of the National League and have new owners in place. If the administrators are still in charge where does the money come to run the club, bring in players and pay the staff that will be required.

I really don’t think it’s any better than us staying in the EFL and being put into administration, I think both would destroy the Club. I don’t see how one way does and one way doesn’t.

I don’t think the local council would put money up like has happened at another Club in the past. Or that the Shrimps Trust would be able to raise £500,000 pounds to help the club, like happened at another one.

We might get a load of Tyre-Kickers clambering other each other to buy the Club and for me, we may well end up in the same position as we are with Jason.

My instincts says if on the pitch we go down we still have to stay away from administration with new owners or even with the sale still not resolved.

That’s my instincts, but I’m more than happy to hear a well explained case where it will change my mind and make me come on board with those who firmly believe administration is the only way forward.

I expect some stick but I just don’t think it’s the right move at this time.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Crazeenick » Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:12 am

A couple of things I picked up from the Forum:

The Board said Momi has supplied, and is supplying, documents to the EFL as requested. Some of the docs are copied to Rod/Graham, and some are not - depending on the nature of said documents. So things are at least moving a bit, even if very slowly and Rod/Graham don't see everything.

They said Sarbjot never did get to the point of submitting any paperwork to the EFL. That suggests we ARE further forward with Momi than we had been with Sarb.

Graham pointed out that Momi has put quite a bit of money into the Club. Not enough to give him much influence as a shareholder - but not an insignificant amount. Graham said "why would Momi put that much money in if he really has no intention of following through and buying the Club".

In terms of motivation for buying a loss-making L2 Club, they said they think for Momi it is to raise the profile of the UK Sikh Business Community (ie publicity).
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Phoenix Shrimp 2017 » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:27 am

Crazeenick wrote:A couple of things I picked up from the Forum:

The Board said Momi has supplied, and is supplying, documents to the EFL as requested. Some of the docs are copied to Rod/Graham, and some are not - depending on the nature of said documents. So things are at least moving a bit, even if very slowly and Rod/Graham don't see everything.

They said Sarbjot never did get to the point of submitting any paperwork to the EFL. That suggests we ARE further forward with Momi than we had been with Sarb.

Graham pointed out that Momi has put quite a bit of money into the Club. Not enough to give him much influence as a shareholder - but not an insignificant amount. Graham said "why would Momi put that much money in if he really has no intention of following through and buying the Club".

In terms of motivation for buying a loss-making L2 Club, they said they think for Momi it is to raise the profile of the UK Sikh Business Community (ie publicity).


Thanks for that Crazeenick. Sounds more positive than some of the other stuff written about Mr Momi.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Keith » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:55 am

Billy bodger wrote:My instincts says if on the pitch we go down we still have to stay away from administration with new owners or even with the sale still not resolved.

That’s my instincts, but I’m more than happy to hear a well explained case where it will change my mind and make me come on board with those who firmly believe administration is the only way forward.

I expect some stick but I just don’t think it’s the right move at this time.


You shouldn't get any stick for having a difference of opinion, this is unchartered waters for us all.

My fear is, we go down with Whittingham still owning the club, he maintains an unrealistic expectation of the club's value and slashes our playing budget further. Instead of a low League Two budget in League One, followed by a low National League budget in League Two, we have a National League North budget in the National League, and we're fighting relegation again. Administration would be awful, but at least with him gone, we could rebuild.

That said, if the primary debts, at high interest, are to himself, then clearly he's not going to put us into Administration, so it won't happen anyway.

Our best hope is that Momi is genuine and has funds behind him, and completes the sale ASAP. I'm just concerned as to why it is taking so long?
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby Billy bodger » Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:20 am

Keith wrote:
Billy bodger wrote:My instincts says if on the pitch we go down we still have to stay away from administration with new owners or even with the sale still not resolved.

That’s my instincts, but I’m more than happy to hear a well explained case where it will change my mind and make me come on board with those who firmly believe administration is the only way forward.

I expect some stick but I just don’t think it’s the right move at this time.


You shouldn't get any stick for having a difference of opinion, this is unchartered waters for us all.

My fear is, we go down with Whittingham still owning the club, he maintains an unrealistic expectation of the club's value and slashes our playing budget further. Instead of a low League Two budget in League One, followed by a low National League budget in League Two, we have a National League North budget in the National League, and we're fighting relegation again. Administration would be awful, but at least with him gone, we could rebuild.

That said, if the primary debts, at high interest, are to himself, then clearly he's not going to put us into Administration, so it won't happen anyway.

Our best hope is that Momi is genuine and has funds behind him, and completes the sale ASAP. I'm just concerned as to why it is taking so long?


We both have our thoughts and I see your logic if Jason still at the Wheel. Yes with Momi still not having proved he and his associates are fit persons to own a Club is a big worry.

I wonder from what was said at the Forum that he and Sarbot are in dispute is true, because that will take time to resolve, probably lengthy, as we don’t know when the takeover will happen. Jason clearly not Intrested in other bids, Momi is still preferred bidder.

It’s another complete mess, but if we can stay up by what happens on the pitch and that keeps our EFL status and then we go again with what ever budget with whoever owner/owners we will struggle through.
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Re: Fans forum due in December 2024

Postby CityShrimp » Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:52 pm

I agree with Keith that if we face relegation at the end of this season with a sale still not completed, administration would be my preference. This club will continue to deteriorate whilst Jason owns it.
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