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Re: Sale soon

Postby Ispyshrimp » Fri May 09, 2025 8:35 pm

polo tower wrote:long time listener first time caller.

there are 5 stages of grief and i can see them all expressed on this forum through various reactions to your situation. sadly, far too many seem in still be in total denial, whilst a few seem to understand the severity of the situaiton. in brief, i dont believe morecambe football club is for sale in any meaningful sense, as others have pointed out this is an income stream for your owner a term which very loosely applies in this case. the prospective owners are simply a ruse to keep the spigot open for as long as possible, no doubt they potentially profit from this understanding in some way.

I read someone complain that the fans feel a few steps behind the shenanigans of this individual, and that he is too clever. this goes back to my first point, most people dont want to see what is going on and cant come to terms with it. when you see the very simple operation in play, as distressing as it is it needs to be countered. I see your situation very similar to chester, and not blackpool which has been mentioned. To that end i really think the trust need to be in contact with chester immediately with concrete plans put in place for starting fresh with a covenent covering usage and ownership of the ground. this isnt to say give up on getting the club back into less dubious hands, but to really get ahead of things and have a plan in place, because, things are at some point going to spiral out of control very quickly and you could end up with no club to support and wondering what happened (WW is all the proof you need and is exactly where you are heading). forcing the issue sooner gives you more of a chance of being able to control the outcome, puts real pressure on the owner and then even if it is a disaster, better to be prepared.

Im not local but live local, have watched morecambe for over 3 decades, and have been really impressed with how the club was run and transitioned into a full time league club, the current situation is a disgrace, it angers me, and the responsibility for it lies directly at the door of the FA, as well as whoever sold the club to this opportunist credit card juggler in the first place. that being said, the club is the fans and you really need to get on top of this because its clear where it is going and has been for some time. Anyway, its easily said i know.

apologies for being so optimistic.


Very good comments, well put and right what you say. Unfortunately like you have said some are still not seeing the picture and don't like having anyone with a difference of opinion than theirs, same people will still not see the bigger picture once it comes to us struggling to keep afloat and the clubs in the Sh1t.
It seems that no matter what the BOD and trust do they same people are snow blinded and cant cope that facts are stated on this forum, those of you in Denial you will suddenly wake up and see the picture
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Hodgie1978 » Fri May 09, 2025 8:36 pm

Cheers Polo Tower....
Great first post
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Ispyshrimp » Fri May 09, 2025 8:39 pm

Old Man Kensey wrote:
Ispyshrimp wrote:Free hospitality? I must of missed that night! What utter crap.


Wow!!!!! I don't lie my friend so before you start to be an arse do some research and ask the question yourself from those who attended their free event on behalf of the BOD, I will await your apology


Quite simply never happened. So yes you do lie.[/quote]

for someone who doesn't know me I'm not sure you can have that opinion without doing some research, by the way it was a midweek game at night
I could comment further but one I'm not a liar , also how can you be so certain as I can also name those who attended my friend[/quote]

Well how wonderful for you. Your still a liar. No one from the Trust has ever received a single penny for their efforts. You carry on spouting nonsense if it makes you happy.[/quote]

I think you have tripped yourself up there old man, I haven't said they have financially benefitted but that of enjoying being wined and dined in hospitality
I can tell that you are a person of arrogance and you know best, you must be great to have a debate with as your always right
by the way, here's a virtual tissue to wipe the brown stuff of your nose your that far up BOD and trusts arse you should change your name to toes
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Old Man Kensey » Fri May 09, 2025 8:51 pm

Ispyshrimp wrote:
Old Man Kensey wrote:
Ispyshrimp wrote:Free hospitality? I must of missed that night! What utter crap.


Wow!!!!! I don't lie my friend so before you start to be an arse do some research and ask the question yourself from those who attended their free event on behalf of the BOD, I will await your apology


Quite simply never happened. So yes you do lie.


for someone who doesn't know me I'm not sure you can have that opinion without doing some research, by the way it was a midweek game at night
I could comment further but one I'm not a liar , also how can you be so certain as I can also name those who attended my friend[/quote]

Well how wonderful for you. Your still a liar. No one from the Trust has ever received a single penny for their efforts. You carry on spouting nonsense if it makes you happy.[/quote]

I think you have tripped yourself up there old man, I haven't said they have financially benefitted but that of enjoying being wined and dined in hospitality
I can tell that you are a person of arrogance and you know best, you must be great to have a debate with as your always right
by the way, here's a virtual tissue to wipe the brown stuff of your nose your that far up BOD and trusts arse you should change your name to toes[/quote]
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Ispyshrimp » Fri May 09, 2025 9:03 pm

Quite simply never happened. So yes you do lie.[/quote]

for someone who doesn't know me I'm not sure you can have that opinion without doing some research, by the way it was a midweek game at night
I could comment further but one I'm not a liar , also how can you be so certain as I can also name those who attended my friend[/quote]

Well how wonderful for you. Your still a liar. No one from the Trust has ever received a single penny for their efforts. You carry on spouting nonsense if it makes you happy.[/quote]

I think you have tripped yourself up there old man, I haven't said they have financially benefitted but that of enjoying being wined and dined in hospitality
I can tell that you are a person of arrogance and you know best, you must be great to have a debate with as your always right
by the way, here's a virtual tissue to wipe the brown stuff of your nose your that far up BOD and trusts arse you should change your name to toes[/quote][/quote]

i think you have got a little excited and replied without saying anything lol
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Re: Sale soon

Postby black morse » Sat May 10, 2025 5:19 am

Hodgie1978 wrote:Cheers Polo Tower....
Great first post


Agree entirely.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Andy D » Sat May 10, 2025 7:44 am

polo tower wrote:the current situation is a disgrace, it angers me, and the responsibility for it lies directly at the door of the FA, as well as whoever sold the club to this opportunist credit card juggler in the first place. that being said, the club is the fans and you really need to get on top of this because its clear where it is going and has been for some time. Anyway, its easily said i know.

Spot on, Opportunist Credit Card Juggler :D
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Billy bodger » Sat May 10, 2025 9:17 am

It’s been said again this week, a friend relaid a conversation he had, well it’s a stuck record, one day they may be right, but are we getting anybody credible? How can they not get the paperwork done after all this time?

I read we have only gone back to the level that this Club is really at, I don’t agree with that, with different circumstances (a new owner, straight after being put up for sale) and different decisions at the Club I firmly believe we could have become an established EFL League 1 side.

As for the FA, it run by directors and owners of Clubs, so don’t put any faith in them, no wonder the establishment is against the Football Governance Bill, it’s probably going to be watered down to a point nothing will change.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Wild Bill » Sat May 10, 2025 9:33 am

Well, reading the comments here, it appears Jason has got what he wants. A divided fanbase that has no agreed course of action.

I must admit I was disappointed with the lack of action from the Trust over the last couple of months. They seemed to be doing some good stuff not so long ago to put on the pressure, but this has fallen off.

The reality though is they are a small group of volunteers. They get flack and get burnt out. How many trustees have come and gone since it's formation? It's a thankless task.

The Shrimps Protest Group have also done some good stuff but lack credibility due to their secretive nature.

We really need to pull together to stand a chance of survival. If the Shrimps Trust are reading this, please advise everyone to hold out on buying a season ticket and call an emergency meeting.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat May 10, 2025 10:11 am

There is only one winner when we fall out with eachother and that is Whittingham. We are only a small fanbase and really need to stick together in the fight against his ownership.

I see the NAPM campaign as the last roll of the dice and it needs everybody to back it. The Trust should have backed it publicly when we were relegated and put their weight behind it. The BoD's shouldn't have publicly claimed that ST sales are ahead of target because that undermined the supporters of this club.

Everybody has to get behind the campaign.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Hodgie1978 » Sat May 10, 2025 10:25 am

I would like the Trust to speak to the Supporters Federation again. I know first hand from being on the Trust how good they are.
They regular speak to the EFL and can sort of give you a better idea of what's going on without telling what is going on...lol
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Re: Sale soon

Postby black morse » Sat May 10, 2025 11:58 am

BerlinWaller wrote:There is only one winner when we fall out with eachother and that is Whittingham. We are only a small fanbase and really need to stick together in the fight against his ownership.

I see the NAPM campaign as the last roll of the dice and it needs everybody to back it. The Trust should have backed it publicly when we were relegated and put their weight behind it. The BoD's shouldn't have publicly claimed that ST sales are ahead of target because that undermined the supporters of this club.
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Everybody has to get behind the campaign.


You're right, we do need to stick together and all of us want rid of Whiitingham and are very unsure of Momi's crew. The problem is we presently have 2 'camps', 1 lot wanting NAPM which could easily lead to administration (which may or may not be the ultimate solution) and the other lot praying the Momi's lot will be our salvation (which may or not be correct). So the first lot is action by the fans and the second lot is inaction. I can't see an alternative to either of these and both have their risks. The time for demonstrations is long gone and I personally feel that NAPM is the only way forward. Really wish it was otherwise.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat May 10, 2025 12:17 pm

If everybody had got on board with NAPM, the pressure would have really built up on Whittingham and left him nowhere to go. If everybody had got on board then it might have forced him out and nobody would have had to miss a game. Sadly, the Trust didn't back it and the Directors denounced it. On top of that, some fans couldn't see what was happening and this has caused the divide.

The boycott has to happen now, we have to make this final stand against Whittingham and his endless lies. If we stay divided then he wins and this club dies.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Billy bodger » Sat May 10, 2025 12:57 pm

The thing that was said to a friend of mine was “sale soon!” It got like Jason saying”I want to sell this Club”

Well any Morecambe fan who is fed up with hearing that, while the Club disintegrates before their eyes, must be torn, no easy decision for any fan.

It either buy your ticket and hope “Sale soon” is happing, while yes it keeps the Club going (downwards!!) but helps Whittingham or we support the Club by not turning up to home games in the hope it puts pressure on Whittingham, the up shot of that is we are going to be the easy target of getting all the blame put on them if administration happens and no praise if NAPM works!!

Hell and a high place isn’t it.

The only one who is biringing the Club down is Whittingham, please consider joining the NAPM campaign it might work in getting rid of Whittingham which ever way it goes.

Also consider going to away games and watching the U18s, it shows we are still supporting Morecambe and I would think once a sale happens whenever that is??? those fans will be back at the Mazuma.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby redrobo » Sat May 10, 2025 1:07 pm

Wild Bill wrote:Well, reading the comments here, it appears Jason has got what he wants. A divided fanbase that has no agreed course of action.

I must admit I was disappointed with the lack of action from the Trust over the last couple of months. They seemed to be doing some good stuff not so long ago to put on the pressure, but this has fallen off.

The reality though is they are a small group of volunteers. They get flack and get burnt out. How many trustees have come and gone since it's formation? It's a thankless task.

The Shrimps Protest Group have also done some good stuff but lack credibility due to their secretive nature.

We really need to pull together to stand a chance of survival. If the Shrimps Trust are reading this, please advise everyone to hold out on buying a season ticket and call an emergency meeting.


It's well known that I do not support the campaign BUT is the Protest Group doing itself no favours by its secretive nature... :?: :?: :?: I genuinely believe that it means well however misguided in my opinion it is. For me the campaign is hurting the club far more than hurting the person intended.

For me the lack of extensive nationwide media coverage is missing and until the greater footballing community are made aware of our clubs situation and the constant peddling of lies and false dawns then the protest remains a local issue within our club.

Nobody is sure of the actual numbers of those who agree with the protest. Is it 50, 100 or even significantly more... :?: :?: :?: Whatever the number its intentions are well meaning in an attempt to save our club. The current level of season ticket sales would suggest that the number in support is minimal as those who have purchased a season ticket like myself probably feel that the club needs the finances NOW to continue to operate. Surely not a single fan of our club wants to see its demise BUT without question everybody with our club at heart wants to see the back of the pariah JW....non more so than myself.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat May 10, 2025 1:42 pm

You want him out Neil but what have you done about it? You have done nothing and you continue to put money in to his pocket. You are part of the problem.

If the members of the 1920 had made themselves public, what would have happened to them? Why should they risk bans etc when people like you do nothing at all?

People should remember what the 1920union have done and how they have been let down by this clubs fanbase.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby redrobo » Sat May 10, 2025 2:00 pm

What MUST NOT happen is that fans turn amongst themselves.

I respect ALL those who support the protest...I just feel (and I'm like a well worn record in this) that it is hurting our club more than it will ever hurt that pariah JW.

He will continue to fund the club irrespective of the amount of flack that comes his way for the simple reason he is making money out of the excessive interest he will get as and when the club is sold to whoever.

Unfortunately our excellent BoDs are in no position financially to stop his gravy train as long as they need his financial support to keep our club alive. Stop his input and it's the end and possible closure of our club permanently which NOBODY wants to see....surely... and that for me is a good enough reason to continue to support our club financially :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Sale soon

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat May 10, 2025 2:31 pm

The club is going to suffer either way, there is no way around it. It can die at the hands of Whittingham with us all just stood watching and saying how it is such a shame

Or

We can make a stand, withdraw our custom and put Whittingham in a position where he has to sell the club instead of pretending to sell the club.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby redrobo » Sat May 10, 2025 2:45 pm

A typical case of 'differing opinions' of how best to save our club. Which ever way one stands on this we ALL remain fans of our excellent club.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby BerlinWaller » Sat May 10, 2025 2:54 pm

redrobo wrote:A typical case of 'differing opinions' of how best to save our club. Which ever way one stands on this we ALL remain fans of our excellent club.


But you aren't doing anything to save the club.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Wild Bill » Sat May 10, 2025 2:59 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:The club is going to suffer either way, there is no way around it. It can die at the hands of Whittingham with us all just stood watching and saying how it is such a shame

Or

We can make a stand, withdraw our custom and put Whittingham in a position where he has to sell the club instead of pretending to sell the club.


I think you are over simplifying here. If it was just a case of withdrawing our custom for a few months and then we end up with a decent new owner, I am sure we'd all be on board with NAPM.

I don't think most (if any) know the consequences of any action. Perhaps this is something for the trust to work on, so we can all make better informed choices.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby redrobo » Sat May 10, 2025 3:00 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:
redrobo wrote:A typical case of 'differing opinions' of how best to save our club. Which ever way one stands on this we ALL remain fans of our excellent club.


But you aren't doing anything to save the club.




I see it differently. I along with others are still supporting our club financially....that's the only difference between us.

We ALL agree that that scum bag needs to be replaced. No disagreement there... :!: :!: :!:
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Andy D » Sat May 10, 2025 3:13 pm

redrobo wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:
redrobo wrote:A typical case of 'differing opinions' of how best to save our club. Which ever way one stands on this we ALL remain fans of our excellent club.


But you aren't doing anything to save the club.




I see it differently. I along with others are still supporting our club financially....that's the only difference between us.

We ALL agree that that scum bag needs to be replaced. No disagreement there... :!: :!: :!:
its Jason’s club, he’s the owner and you're supporting him and his lifestyle.

and i bet Jason cant wait to get his hands on these parachute payment's.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby redrobo » Sat May 10, 2025 3:45 pm

.....only with the BoDs approval can he touch any monies in the clubs accounts.
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Re: Sale soon

Postby Hodgie1978 » Sat May 10, 2025 3:46 pm

It really is that simple...
If not one Morecambe fan walked through the turnstile.... how does Jason pay his loan back?
He'd sell within a week.
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