23/24 accounts just filed

[KenH]

The JBC Trust was basically just the field. All the buildings, infrastructure, etc put on the Christie Park field were paid for and owned by MFC Limited. Two completely different legal entities.

I appreciate that, but I thought (perhaps incorrectly?) that the Christie Trust owned all the land, ie pitch and inside the ground, the car park and the land that the Auxiliary Club was built upon. That was a massive amount of land. The buildings were worthless. Okay, yes, some of that money was needed for redeveloping, but it looks like a huge amount of land has been exchanged for a very small patch, and the rest of the value has been waisted/lost/hived off.

I said "field" not pitch. Both sites are fundamentally fields, i.e. the "land". What's been built or put upon the land is mostly owned by MFC Limited. If the entire Mazuma stadium is bulldozed to the ground, the "field" remaining still belongs to the JBC Trust, not just the pitch, but the surrounding area, just like it was at CP.

[redrobo]

I'm sure I read somewhere that the club had 200 employees......

Maybe it's time we did a Man Utd and made some redundant to lower what must be a horrendous wage bill.

I can't see the club operating with such a number if we get relegated to non league....surely...

[black morse]

I'm sure I read somewhere that the club had 200 employees......

Maybe it's time we did a Man Utd and made some redundant to lower what must be a horrendous wage bill.

I can't see the club operating with such a number if we get relegated to non league....surely...

203 according to the figures shown in Hodgie's link shown above to the Keiran Maguire post on X. and that's slightly down on last year.

[KenH]

I'm sure I read somewhere that the club had 200 employees......

Maybe it's time we did a Man Utd and made some redundant to lower what must be a horrendous wage bill.

I can't see the club operating with such a number if we get relegated to non league....surely...

That will include the hospitality, bar, refreshments, kitchen, shop and admin staff.

I've long maintained we should contract the bar, suites and boxes to a professional catering/events management firm like some other football clubs and country house hotels do. That way, the club gets either rent or a profit share/commission from the use of the suites and boxes, all the admin, marketing, management, kitchen, waiting staff, are employed by someone else massively reducing the admin/management burden of the club. A professional firm will also make more and better use of the suites and boxes as they'll market it more widely, especially on non match days, have more "contacts" with organisations for corporate events, seminars, etc.

Our "facilities" are simply not used enough. We have kitchen, bar, function suite and boxes that are mostly empty and unused other than match days. Yes, there are occasional functions, weddings, parties, etc., but nowhere near enough. It's like having a hotel but only having 1 bedroom out of 10 ever occupied except at weekends or a hotel having a big function room that's only used once a week - just not sustainable. If the club can't market it properly and get use up a lot (which needs time and money the club management don't have), then they need to seriously considering just contracting it all out, renting out the kitchen, bar, function suite and boxes to an event management firm who can make better use of the facilities and generate more income for the club.

[Billy bodger]

Shrimps trust has produced a summary of our accounts that try’s to explains what it all means. If you get a chance try to read it, it might allay any fears about how bad the Club is doing financially.

[redrobo]

Shrimps trust has produced a summary of our accounts that try’s to explains what it all means. If you get a chance try to read it, it might allay any fears about how bad the Club is doing financially.

A link to their site would be appreciated.

Cheers.

[marky No.1]

Think it's for Trust members only, so you will have got it?
It's on facecloth and X

[Keith]

I said "field" not pitch. Both sites are fundamentally fields, i.e. the "land". What's been built or put upon the land is mostly owned by MFC Limited. If the entire Mazuma stadium is bulldozed to the ground, the "field" remaining still belongs to the JBC Trust, not just the pitch, but the surrounding area, just like it was at CP.

I understood what you were saying. My point is, Christie Park, plus the car park, car wash & Auxiliary Club land is substantially more than the land the Trust now has at Westgate. Very little of the Mazuma land is owned by the Trust. what we currently have is far less valuable. In effect, the Christie Trust has been vastly devalued both in size and monetary.

The entire move has been screwed up. We were promised a ground that would pay for itself through conferences etcetera. Instead, we are likely to end up with a white elephant in the National League North.

[Hodgie1978]

I'm sure I read somewhere that the club had 200 employees......

Maybe it's time we did a Man Utd and made some redundant to lower what must be a horrendous wage bill.

I can't see the club operating with such a number if we get relegated to non league....surely...

Wow! Fans calling for staff to be sacked is a new one for me

[redrobo]

I'm sure I read somewhere that the club had 200 employees......

Maybe it's time we did a Man Utd and made some redundant to lower what must be a horrendous wage bill.

I can't see the club operating with such a number if we get relegated to non league....surely...

Wow! Fans calling for staff to be sacked is a new one for me

Not calling for anybody to be sacked but surely in non league the number may be reduced....

Average wage bill par week is circa £67,500 in addition to the day to day costs of operating a football club at our level. Our current gates come no where near covering the clubs weekly outlay. Hence why I suspect (but not wish) the number of employees to be reduced unfortunately.

[black morse]

In any business when circumstances change and the business starts losing money staffing costs must be looked at. As the playing budget has been cut I assume that non team related staff have been retained to try to increase income from other sources...hospitality, retail, sponsorship etc. If that hasn't worked then cuts must be made in the non team related staff. This is a decision for the Board not the owner.

[Billy bodger]

An interesting little sub-debate emerging, I wondered should I participate or should I leave it till it is known one way or another what league we will be in next season, but I though it is ok to talk about it.

I think it will be inevitable that the gates will be down if we drop out of the EFL and as night follows day that will affect how well the corporate side of the operation does. Many of the match day staff will be part time, so when it says 200 staff we need to know how many are part time and that needs to be appreciated by people, we have to get the corporate side right, I have always enjoyed it but if the standard fell I would not go.
How will the Club handle us going down I don’t know, but maybe it will be a pool of bank staff that are called on that reflects what each and every game needs.
I think we will find parts of the ground closed, as has happened sporadically recently.

When we went down from League One the staff size was cut, it was not done very well, it upset a lot of people who only found out they did not have a job no more when they turned up to the first game of the next season only to be told they did not work there no more, upsetting.
I hope that is handled better than last time, if heaven forbid we drop down.