Newport 2 Morecambe 1 [Edwards] LIVE Thread

[scalehallshrimp]

Going to be tough now really needed to win this against a fellow struggler

[dannymorc1]

So disappointing after all the expectations following Saturdays result. We have played well and nothing to show for it. We didn't get into the game early enough, too much long ball I thought. Then we got the equaliser, but let them break out to score again.
The lads have shown that they can dominate the play, but so unlucky to lose.
Don't mention the crippled goalkeeper that kept them in it. Dark arts!

[black morse]

Yes we had the better of play but we had several chances and failed to find the target.....again.
Newport aren't that good and with the confidence from last Saturday we should have won that.
Burgoyne is a good shot stopper but that's it. He fails to come for balls when he should and pushes the ball away when he should be getting hold of it.

Sorry but I can't see us staying up now.

[CityShrimp]

The thing that annoys me is that we are losing to some terrible teams. Yes we’ve got less money than everyone else but I find it hard to recall a team who actually outplayed us on the day. Even some of the top teams like Crewe were awful, but we can’t seem to beat any of them.

[shrimpsontoast]

Imagine how cheesed off you would be if you had made the effort to go to the game!

[black morse]

It's all very well to call for more attacking football as some have done this season (two up front etc) and last Saturday showed that it can work but you have to be able to put away the chances that are created.
We missed some reasonable chances yesterday and paid the price.

We now need around 2 pts per game and there is no way we are going to get that amount.

[Andy D]

Andy Dallas needs to be playing in the middle of a front 3, to put the ball away.

[shrimpsontoast]

2 pts per game. Are you anticipating a massive improvement in the form of Tranmere / Carlisle?

[al1]

I thought we played well and unlucky to lose last night.Maybe put the result down to the keepers,theirs made some great stops ours has never been convincing.I would like to see the new keeper have a go on saturday.Well done to the fans who travelled!

[Keith]

We missed some reasonable chances yesterday and paid the price.

To be fair, their keeper pulled off two incredible saves to keep Dackers out. On another day, he has a brace. Can't do much about that, other than acknowledge the skill of the goalkeeper, especially considering the horrendous injuries that he was playing with.

[marky No.1]

2 pts per game. Are you anticipating a massive improvement in the form of Tranmere / Carlisle?

We are currently on 0.8 per game which is clearly not enough. We used to scrape the barrel 3rd from bottom with 1 point per game.
We need 1.6 points per game to get to the magical 50.
This equates approx. to win one, draw two every 3 games

[KenH]

Definitely time for either Moore to return or for the new keeper to have a go. Burgoyne is costing us too many games with his dithering, and refusal to come off his line, not to mention punching balls to opposition players that he should have just caught. Just because he saved a penalty at Chelsea doesn't make him the Messiah - that didn't matter in the big scheme of things but constantly conceding simple/weak goal efforts is going to cost us our league status.

[CityShrimp]

Definitely time for either Moore to return or for the new keeper to have a go. Burgoyne is costing us too many games with his dithering, and refusal to come off his line, not to mention punching balls to opposition players that he should have just caught. Just because he saved a penalty at Chelsea doesn't make him the Messiah - that didn't matter in the big scheme of things but constantly conceding simple/weak goal efforts is going to cost us our league status.

I agree. He does make some good saves sometimes but he must surely be very close to being dropped now.

The penalty save at Chelsea was great but equally he let in a very soft goal during that game as well. Nobody has mentioned it because of the context of the game and you don’t want to be too critical but the mistakes have mounted up this season to a point where I’d start the new keeper on Saturday.

[Crazeenick]

Agree.

Is Stuart Moore fit? Or is he still injured?

[shrimpsontoast]

The corner from which Fleetwood scored their first goal on Saturday looked like catching practice for a professional goalkeeper. At least come out to meet the attacker, even if you don’t make it to the ball first, you might put him off a bit. From personal experience in Sunday league football years ago, it’s much more difficult to focus on heading the ball when you hear “KEEEEEEEPERRRRS!!!!” and have to brace yourself for impact. That said, the weight differential between Harry and your average league two attacker is probably considerably less than the weight differential between me and your average sunday league goalkeeper. But more assertiveness and aggression required, please!

[vvm]

Definitely time for either Moore to return or for the new keeper to have a go. Burgoyne is costing us too many games with his dithering, and refusal to come off his line, not to mention punching balls to opposition players that he should have just caught. Just because he saved a penalty at Chelsea doesn't make him the Messiah - that didn't matter in the big scheme of things but constantly conceding simple/weak goal efforts is going to cost us our league status.

I agree. He does make some good saves sometimes but he must surely be very close to being dropped now.

The penalty save at Chelsea was great but equally he let in a very soft goal during that game as well. Nobody has mentioned it because of the context of the game and you don’t want to be too critical but the mistakes have mounted up this season to a point where I’d start the new keeper on Saturday.

I can't be bothered watching the highlights back again to confirm this but he really did fall apart in the second half of the Chelsea game, could have done better for like 3 of their goals.

He's more steady than Adam Smith was last season but still a bit of a liability, I'd give the new guy a go against Notts County, not expecting much from that game anyway so might as well.

[black morse]

The corner from which Fleetwood scored their first goal on Saturday looked like catching practice for a professional goalkeeper. At least come out to meet the attacker, even if you don’t make it to the ball first, you might put him off a bit. From personal experience in Sunday league football years ago, it’s much more difficult to focus on heading the ball when you hear “KEEEEEEEPERRRRS!!!!” and have to brace yourself for impact. That said, the weight differential between Harry and your average league two attacker is probably considerably less than the weight differential between me and your average sunday league goalkeeper. But more assertiveness and aggression required, please!

The goalkeeper needs to dominate his area and Harry doesn't. One point which may well not go down well with some on here is that Baz was a great stopper but not good with crosses etc. and he is now the coach.
Ripley was a good example of how a goalkeeper should dominate. Not the worst keeper we've had but not the best. Stu's better when fit.

[jbc.shrimp]

Which keeper was on the bench last night ? If the first choice keeper is fit enough to take part in pre-match warm up (Dave Salmon quote )why keep him on the bench. Or why sign a third keeper and waste the money by not calling him up.

[Andy D]

Which keeper was on the bench last night ? If the first choice keeper is fit enough to take part in pre-match warm up (Dave Salmon quote )why keep him on the bench. Or why sign a third keeper and waste the money by not calling him up.

Plus you can make an emergency signing at anytime of the season with a Goalkeeper.

[marky No.1]

Which keeper was on the bench last night ?

Ryan Schofield

[Billy bodger]

What ever Derek chooses in goal will have to deal with moments in any of the matches left, they will make saves and they will make mistakes, that goes with the position.
What we have found in the last couple of games is an attacking game that is making it likely we will give ourselves a chance of survival.
However work is very quickly needed on our finishing, it’s been a season long problem, Derek has to find a constant goal scorer.
In the two games against Newport we had a total of 42 attempts on goal, we scored 1 and got done over
1-0 and 2-1 respectively.
Everybody knows we are more competitive than our position in the league says, 11 games 1-0 for example, fine margins not going our way. It is one reason the fans, who can see we are not to far away from the vast majority of other teams, have in the main carried on hoping we get a turn around in fortunes.
Well it’s now or never the next 5 games gives us a chance to get back into the pack we need 10+ points, it’s as simple as that. 30+ points with 12 games to go 7 of them at home.

IT IS DOABLE IF WE CAN RECTIFY OUR SEASON LONG PROBLEM.

[Little Shrimp]

Whether we should or shouldn't have picked up an extra back-up keeper for injury cover for peanuts is really not going to define our season. Not really sure why it's so contested.

I don't think the Newport game was a 'story of our season' type thing. When have we created countless scoring opportunities like we did on Tuesday? We haven't. We've managed to consistently get into decent areas but in terms of actual proper chances/shots etc, we've created very little all season.

Tuesday was unfortunate and hampered by a goalkeeping error and poor defending (second more on Songo'o than Stott for me - shanked clearance from him is what leads to our defence being on the back-foot). But viewed in the context of our recent transfer business and the fact that we created a bucketload of proper chances against Fleetwood as well, I think we are turning a corner in terms of creating opportunities/scoring goals.

I feel fairly confident that we'll continue to score more and consequently pick up more points than we have done prior. But the issue will be whether it's enough to undo the damage/points lost so far this season. We don't really have much room for unfortunate nights like at Newport.

[Billy bodger]

Whether we should or shouldn't have picked up an extra back-up keeper for injury cover for peanuts is really not going to define our season. Not really sure why it's so contested.

I don't think the Newport game was a 'story of our season' type thing. When have we created countless scoring opportunities like we did on Tuesday? We haven't. We've managed to consistently get into decent areas but in terms of actual proper chances/shots etc, we've created very little all season.

Tuesday was unfortunate and hampered by a goalkeeping error and poor defending (second more on Songo'o than Stott for me - shanked clearance from him is what leads to our defence being on the back-foot). But viewed in the context of our recent transfer business and the fact that we created a bucketload of proper chances against Fleetwood as well, I think we are turning a corner in terms of creating opportunities/scoring goals.

I feel fairly confident that we'll continue to score more and consequently pick up more points than we have done prior. But the issue will be whether it's enough to undo the damage/points lost so far this season. We don't really have much room for unfortunate nights like at Newport.

I think we are broadly on the same song sheet, we cannot afford more days like Tues, if we had kept it 1-1 I think everyone would have settled for that as it’s another point. We went for the win and got done over, carryon creating chances and then it’s putting it in, just hope we don’t get a goalie who make 3 really good saves, while ours spills one.